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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Transmission Questions... (ratios)

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skunky56

As 71Hanto said the best swap if you can find one is the T9. It will bolt up to your bell, use all your existing parts no drive shaft modification, cutting the floor pan  just the rear trans mount. Simple easy and not as costly. I am running them in 2 of my cars. I run them behind my 2.0 engines. Boy what a difference overdrive on the freeways Ya-Hoo! Look for 1985-1988 Merkur  XR4TI.










Paul
77 Starsky/Hutch 2.3 Turbo A4OD Sunroof
78 Wagon V6 C3

Cheeseliner

ok pintoguy. I got it and sent you one. I got the set up on craigslist (Lawrence ks). Id just use the money for more pinto parts so if you got wheels/tires, high pressure fuel pump, or something Id make you a good deal on it. ITs complete. Bellhousing, pressure plate, clutch etc. Kenny
75 Pinto Hatchback Runabout. 2.3 EFI Turbo Charged Pinto with C4 and 8 inch 4.11 locker, Front mount IC, NOS, Walbro/T-bars/ Drag Stars

pintoguy76

Cheeseliner I see your profile says you are located in Topeka. If that is Topeka kansas then I am only about 3 hours away and would be interested in that T5 you have. I'll send you a message.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

Cheeseliner

Jippah - Good luck. The T 5 is a good tranny behind the 2.3. Too bad you are so far away, i've got one bolted to my 2.3 85 TC motor that i am getting ready to take off. It has the bellhousing, flywheel and everything to bolt to yours. Im taking it off and putting a C4 behind it and don't need it now. Kenny 
75 Pinto Hatchback Runabout. 2.3 EFI Turbo Charged Pinto with C4 and 8 inch 4.11 locker, Front mount IC, NOS, Walbro/T-bars/ Drag Stars

71HANTO

If you are staying under 200 FT LBS of torque on the engine, don't overlook the T-9 five speed IF you run across one first. They came in 80's 2.3L Merkurs. The gears are more evenly spread apart than the T-5 and 1st gear is not as radical. You don't have to cut the trans tunnel forward 1.5 inches and you may not need to change/cut your existing drive shaft. The trans crossmember needs to be turned backwards and maybe re-drilled/slotted. They are basicly a pinto fourspeed box (different gearing) with a fifth speed gear added to the back of the cast iron center section housed in the aluminum tail section. They are about as close to a direct bolt in as you can get for a 2.3L. You can even use your original Pinto 4 speed shift knob if you want to hide it. :surprised:

71HANTO
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Jippah

Holy Cow!!! Thank you so much Pintoguy76 for the wealth of knowledge!

it really doesnt seem as big of a project as i had previously thought (still no easy task, but at least feasible!)
Quote from: pintoguy76 on February 12, 2011, 11:34:26 PM
I am planning to do this swap in one of my three pintos later on this year. Eventually the other one will be a T5 also and the other one is automatic, it will probably get a C4 if anything.

Please! i hope you keep a detailed record of the swap for easy reference so that i (because im dumb lol) have a chance at improving my pinto as well!!!
*BANG*
"What was that!?"
'... Speed bump?'

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pintoguy76

The drop from 1st to 2nd gear in the pinto 4 speed is a KILLER. Thats where your loss of acceleration comes from. If i remember right the 1st gear ratio is about 3.65 and 2nd is 1.97. Thats a 1.68 drop meaning the engine turns 1.68 fewer turns to one turn of the transmission output shaft.  That is a BIG acceleration killer.


3rd gear is like 1.37 only a .60 drop and 4th is 1.00 even (direct drive)


A T5 would help alot, the gears are spread out a little more evenly so 2nd gear wont be such a killer. 


I haven't done the swap yet but it really shouldn't be too hard. The transmission itself will bolt right up the engine.  The correct clutch pressure plate and flywheel are readily available (since this transmission WAS used behind later 2.3s which still use the same block and crank as the 2.3 you have).


It wouldnt be hard to enlarge the shifter hole for the shifter and the speedo cable just has to be relocated from one side to the other. It plugs right in no problems.


The transmission crossmember has to be turned around backwards and the holes in it for the mount need to be elongated a bit. I cant remember the exact application but there is supposed to be a shaft from a mustang that is the correct length and all you have to do is change the rear u-joint  to make it mate up to your rear end. A custom made drive shaft from a driveline shop is only about $150 or so last I knew.


The only problem left to solve is the clutch cable. I cant remember what it is that you are supposed to do about it but it wasnt too big of a deal.  I am planning to do this swap in one of my three pintos later on this year. Eventually the other one will be a T5 also and the other one is automatic, it will probably get a C4 if anything.  Funny thing is that my pinto that has the automatic is faster than the other two which have 4 speeds. And the auto car is the heaviest one and has a rear gear ratio between that of the each of the two 4 speed cars. (3.08 vs 3.00 and 3.55). I think the gear ratios in the auto trans are just that much better. A T5 should be even better than that.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

Jippah

thats terrible lol

seems like alot of work to have to change everything... hope its worth it..

anyone else have a T5 in a stock 2.3L? are the changes truly that noticeable?
*BANG*
"What was that!?"
'... Speed bump?'

1976 3door MPG 4spd 2.3L "Shelly"
-------------------------------
1993 camaro (6cyl)
2004 F150 FX4 (5.4L) "Ed" <- daily driver
2001 Suzuki Katana (blown rod) "Blue Fury"
2006 Kawasaki ZX636 "Blue Fury v2.0" (113hp on 2 wheels!)

blink77


Jippah

actually, one more question;
if i were to acquire one of these T5 transmissions from an '80s Mustang, what type of modification would i have to do to have it fir properly in my pinto? (apart from moving the shifter hole up 2-3 inches)
I.E. will i have to do anything to the drive shaft?
how about the cross member? does that require modification?
and does the transmission mate up properly to the 2.3L without any modification to the shaft?
*BANG*
"What was that!?"
'... Speed bump?'

1976 3door MPG 4spd 2.3L "Shelly"
-------------------------------
1993 camaro (6cyl)
2004 F150 FX4 (5.4L) "Ed" <- daily driver
2001 Suzuki Katana (blown rod) "Blue Fury"
2006 Kawasaki ZX636 "Blue Fury v2.0" (113hp on 2 wheels!)

Jippah

That is such great news! I don't really plan on rev'ing it to high... and yea its the stock rear diff... not sure if I want to swap the rear or the tranny anytime soon, but im just tryin to get my facts straight for when the time comes.
Thanks for the help!!
*BANG*
"What was that!?"
'... Speed bump?'

1976 3door MPG 4spd 2.3L "Shelly"
-------------------------------
1993 camaro (6cyl)
2004 F150 FX4 (5.4L) "Ed" <- daily driver
2001 Suzuki Katana (blown rod) "Blue Fury"
2006 Kawasaki ZX636 "Blue Fury v2.0" (113hp on 2 wheels!)

dave1987

There is the Ford T5 used in 80s mustangs. The shifter hole has to be moved an inch or two forward if I recall though. If mounted behind a stock Pinto 2.3, it should be bullet proof unless you rev the hell out of it in first or second gear and blow it up. But even then, I would have to bet that the rear axle (assuming it's a 6 3/4") would pop first.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

Jippah

So i have a 1976 2.3L mated to a "4 speed Hummer" transmission.... and i was trying to figure out the gear ratios of this transmission... or any really information about this transmission in general.

I'm looking to try and squeeze a bit more acceleration speed out of Shelly... 0-60 in about a month is torture when driving around all the nice cars out here in Hawaii. (not to mention terrifying... don't rear end me!)

in short, anyone have any recommendations for a slightly better Transmission? is there a 5spd that will mate up to the 2.3L of 1976?
*BANG*
"What was that!?"
'... Speed bump?'

1976 3door MPG 4spd 2.3L "Shelly"
-------------------------------
1993 camaro (6cyl)
2004 F150 FX4 (5.4L) "Ed" <- daily driver
2001 Suzuki Katana (blown rod) "Blue Fury"
2006 Kawasaki ZX636 "Blue Fury v2.0" (113hp on 2 wheels!)