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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: Bigtimmay on January 18, 2011, 04:01:03 PM
For you Headgasket/o-ring thing most guys are just running the  Fel Pro 1035 head gasket it has a wire ring built into it around the cylinders. But if your going to run this headgasket you need to make sure the block is flat and the head is flat if they aren't you can have issues with it sealing.

I'll have the head and block milled as little as possible to make it flat if it is not already. Still afraid it might pop and then need to do all the work again. What about a cometic gasket or an MLS? Or a copper gasket w/o the o-rings?.  There is a site i ran across last night that sells 2.3 copper gaskets in both self sealing and non self sealing types.

Oh and since your aiming for 300-400HP if i was you instead of the 190LPH fp id just get a 255LPH JDs performance has genuine walbro 255lph pumps for 119 not a whole lot more then what the 190 costs.Plus its always better to have more fuel then need then not enough later on.Jds also sell the kirban adjustable FPR.

Yes the 255lph is what I meant. Its been a long time since I did any reading up on this 2.3t stuff so 190lph is what came to mind. I was however planning to use the larger pump. Might be a good thing you mentioned that or i might have forgotten the 255 was available.

"LB2 computer with ACT sensor (LA3 is better I know but the car I got the engine from was an automatic which had the LB2 computer)LB2 computer with ACT sensor (LA3 is better I know but the car I got the engine from was an automatic which had the LB2 computer)"

Actually the auto computer has the same tune as a la3 the only difference is the boost they put out but since your running MBC you wont have a problem with this.The auto ecu was set to run lower boost due to the trans couldn't hold anymore.

I thought the auto computer had different timing maps as well. I dont know if it would make that much difference or not tho.


1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

pintoguy76

I thought the early TC and SVO had a T3 stock and the 87 88 like mine had an IHI. The t3 fit with no problems (other than oxygen sensor hitting the heater motor) and the IHI had clearance issues with the wastegate actuator.

Clarify this for me please?

I was planning on using the IHI that I have so some surgery was expected anyways... Ive been considering a header that moves the turbo forward some which may eliminate some or all of the clearance issues anyways. Ive seen some adapters on ebay that adapt one turbo to another turbo flange.. like a t3 to a t4 or vs versa. That adds 2 or 3 inches of height to the turbo which would help more on clearance below but might get into the hood then.
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E

Mike Modified

T3 requires surgery



but the results are worth it  :lol:



Mike

Bigtimmay

For you Headgasket/o-ring thing most guys are just running the  Fel Pro 1035 head gasket it has a wire ring built into it around the cylinders. But if your going to run this headgasket you need to make sure the block is flat and the head is flat if they aren't you can have issues with it sealing.

Oh and since your aiming for 300-400HP if i was you instead of the 190LPH fp id just get a 255LPH JDs performance has genuine walbro 255lph pumps for 119 not a whole lot more then what the 190 costs.Plus its always better to have more fuel then need then not enough later on.Jds also sell the kirban adjustable FPR.
http://www.jdsperformance.com/index.asp?initemuid=432&fcmd=item&inmake=0

"LB2 computer with ACT sensor (LA3 is better I know but the car I got the engine from was an automatic which had the LB2 computer)LB2 computer with ACT sensor (LA3 is better I know but the car I got the engine from was an automatic which had the LB2 computer)"

Actually the auto computer has the same tune as a la3 the only difference is the boost they put out but since your running MBC you wont have a problem with this.The auto ecu was set to run lower boost due to the trans couldn't hold anymore.

1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

pintoguy76

I'm about to start working on my 87 Thunderbird turbo coupe engine soon (after a couple other small projects are done)

It is a low mile (63k) engine std bore. Crosshatch clearly visible in the bores. Bores look awesome.

Crank and main bearings, not so much. Some evidence of dirt and scratching and there is some copper visible in some of the bearings. The crank will need polished at least and probably turned polished and all bearings replaced.

Before I go much further I would like to say that I dont really PLAN on getting overly carried away with this thing, maybe 300 or 400hp at most. There are guys making 700+ hp with these and they are needing (barely but still needing them) straps on the main caps, aftermarket rods, etc.

I plan on using ARP main and head studs as well as ARP rod bolts but I think stock pistons rods and crank. Keeping my original bores and pistons but MAY consider total seal rings.

My main concern is the fact that people do blow head gaskets alot on these engines. There are of course solutions to this. Copper head gaskets and head gaskets WITH or WITHOUT O-rings.

I think going WITH o-rings would be best, that will seal up the cylinders pretty well. Then i assume sealer is needed to be applied between the block/gasket and head/gasket to seal up the water and oil passages.

How much would it cost, approximately, to have the block machined for o-rings? Are the o-rings reliable for street use or are they something that I will have to tear into every year or two and replace and would this need to be done for the copper head gaskets, if not for the o-rings? I am looking for a reliable very street friendly while being a fun high performing machine.

Engine will be going into a 74 Ford Pinto wagon - about 2400#-ish

Plan on using stock intake exhaust and turbo for now but thinking about rotating the intake for a front mount intercooler and probably a header and T04E turbo at some point in the future. The engine will be mainly stock for now but I want to do the internal work preparing it for more power now before I put it in the car. Id put in a windage tray to wipe the oil off the crank which is good for 20hp the way I understand it (on a v8 anyways) but I dont know if they make that for a 2.3L ford and the product description for the ARP main studs says its not compatible with a windage tray so thats probably out of the question. Probably not needed anyways, these engines are very capable of making all the power you want without all the little things.

I plan on either a ranger roller cam - or an aftermarket cam and MAYBE some port work and large valves on the head. No need for a $2000 aftermarket head I dont think and its not in my budget.

So to recap, to start off with this is what I am planning on:

Stock block and head, maybe o-ringed w/ copper head gasket
ARP main and head studs
Ranger roller cam and followers
Stock pistons and rods (with ARP bolts) and maybe total seal rings
Stock crank, turned as little as possible
Stock intake and E6 manifold, maybe ported, gut the intake and open up the throttle body a little.
Probably the TC intercooler for now
Whatever injectors are on the engine now. (They're the big stock ones 35lb/hr if I remember right)
Adjustable fuel pressure regulator and 190 LPH fuel pump.
Stock turbo - I think. (Its an IHI which IIRC has an external wastegate which I think interferes with the inner fender on a pinto. The T3? turbo used on the 83-86 TC works fine with a pinto from what I remember)
Adjustable boost controller
LB2 computer with ACT sensor (LA3 is better I know but the car I got the engine from was an automatic which had the LB2 computer)
Big VAM
Air intake routed outside the engine compartment for cooler air
Balanced rotating assembly?

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Probably more that I am forgetting. This has been in the plans for years just had too many other projects going on so I am a little rusty on some stuff and forgetting others I am sure.

Any comments or answers to my questions would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks guys
1974 Ford Pinto Wagon with 1991 Mustang DIS EFI 2.3 and stock Pinto 4 Speed

1996 Chevy C2500 Suburban with 6.5L Turbo Diesel/4L80E 4x2

1980 Volvo 265 with 1997 S-10 4.3 and a modified 700R4

2010 GMC Sierra SLE 1500 4x2 5.3 6L80E