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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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Quote from: oldkayaker on November 01, 2010, 06:01:10 AM
Those ebay ads above quote 7/16" studs.  I suspect this is a typo, but it is worth verifying (should be 1/2" for Ford).

Aftermarket street rod stuff is probably 7/16" studs. They are plenty strong.
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oldkayaker

Those ebay ads above quote 7/16" studs.  I suspect this is a typo, but it is worth verifying (should be 1/2" for Ford).  Below is a link to the great thread that turbopinto72 started for 71-73 Pinto's. 
http://www.fordpinto.com/pinto-faq/front-disc-brakes-(4-5-lug)/msg6498/#msg6498
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Quote from: Pinto Pro on November 01, 2010, 12:49:26 AM
So this kit is for a 74 & later spindle. My car is a 72, so will a 74+ spindle simply bolt on??

I know there is a way to swap them. search the archives for swapping early spindles & see what you get.
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Pinto Pro

So this kit is for a 74 & later spindle. My car is a 72, so will a 74+ spindle simply bolt on??

Pinto5.0

Quote from: ctpinto on October 31, 2010, 11:31:36 AM
I have a 80 that I want to convert to five lug, my problem is that I know very little about that conversion and I am not skilled in fabrication or adapting. I don't need much better brakes, I just need it do be 5 lug. What are my options? Thanks
Will

You are looking for these....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-AllStar-Pinto-Mustang-II-2-Brake-Rotors-5-4-1-2-/280436553285?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_100&hash=item414b523645
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Quote from: Pinto Pro on October 30, 2010, 10:38:49 PM
Hey guys, I also need to upgrade the brakes on my pinto. It has stock discs in front and Thunderbird Turbo Coupe discs on the rear.
It has the stock Pinto master cylinder.
I'd like to upgrade the front rotors to a larger size (I have 15" inch wheels), but dont know whats the first place to start.
I like the idea of Granada rotors, but finding them in the salvage yards is impossible anymore (every Granada is stripped of its brakes as soon as it hits the yard).
Are the bearings the same between Pinto and Granada??
I assume I'd need to use Wilwood calipers too?? because stock Granada calipers wont clear??...not sure on this.
All this stuff bolts to the stock Pinto spindle?? or maybe I need a custom made bracket to adapt the calipers??

What about my master cylinder...do I need one thats valved for 4 wheel disc brakes instead of disc/drum??
Do I need a adjustable proportioning valve??

This is what you are looking for & it is a bolt on for '74 & up Pinto spindles. You definitely need an adjustable proportioning valve. I think your master cylinder is fine but a Versailles M/C is already F/R disc ready but I dont know if it bolts on.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-AllStar-Mustang-II-11-Front-Disk-Brake-Kit-5-X-4-5-/280436553113?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_100&hash=item414b523599
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ctpinto

I have a 80 that I want to convert to five lug, my problem is that I know very little about that conversion and I am not skilled in fabrication or adapting. I don't need much better brakes, I just need it do be 5 lug. What are my options? Thanks
Will

Pinto Pro

Hey guys, I also need to upgrade the brakes on my pinto. It has stock discs in front and Thunderbird Turbo Coupe discs on the rear.
It has the stock Pinto master cylinder.
I'd like to upgrade the front rotors to a larger size (I have 15" inch wheels), but dont know whats the first place to start.
I like the idea of Granada rotors, but finding them in the salvage yards is impossible anymore (every Granada is stripped of its brakes as soon as it hits the yard).
Are the bearings the same between Pinto and Granada??
I assume I'd need to use Wilwood calipers too?? because stock Granada calipers wont clear??...not sure on this.
All this stuff bolts to the stock Pinto spindle?? or maybe I need a custom made bracket to adapt the calipers??

What about my master cylinder...do I need one thats valved for 4 wheel disc brakes instead of disc/drum??
Do I need a adjustable proportioning valve??

PintoMaverick

The brown sedan is my car. If your going to keep your stock spindles look at mustangsteve.com. He sells a kit for the stock spindles to bolt up 13" Cobra brakes. But honestly by the time you buy the kit, the V8 hubs you need, and the Cobra brake setup, you could get a nice wilwood 4 piston kit.

Reason I went with the Cobra Brakes is because I had 2 sets that I got for practically nothing and I had the wilwood spindles off another project. So I made my own brackets with some material I already had. Other wise it wouldnt have come out so cheap. But that big rotor and caliper sure do look nice and stop on a dime. BTW if you do it get a wilwood adjustable proportion valve!
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Quote from: vonkysmeed on October 21, 2010, 12:00:45 AM
silly question, if you are putting pizza cutters up front (skinny tires), why are you bothering to upgrade your front brakes?  It will most likely result in flat spotted front tires since you increased the braking while decreasing the contact patch.  Not a flame, just looking at the common sense of the upgrade.

There are several reasons including the cheap price. I also have Wilwoods for the rear that I got cheap that are 4 piston as well. I wanted to get the piston area close front to rear even though I think the rear has slightly more. I have a Wilwood master cylinder & with correct proportioning I can avoid front lockup other than a panic stop. There may be a point where I tire of the big n littles & go with some sizable rubber. The brakes will be sufficient to handle nearly anything. Also it will be a V8 powered street car & I want overkill on the brakes rather than regret & a future upgrade. This set should handle anything I throw at it. Lastly having 11 inch brakes & 4 piston Wilwoods at all 4 corners on a Pinto is an attention getter on cruise night. Doing it for the cost of replacing the stockers is a bonus.
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vonkysmeed

Quote from: Pinto5.0 on October 11, 2010, 11:24:23 PM
I'm always looking for the cheap way to do things with good parts. It took 2 years to round up the brakes that will now end up on my parts car since my son wants my hatch. I found a set of new polished Wilwood calipers & pads for $200 on Ebay & they require at least a 10" dia. rotor so the 11" Granadas are perfect. $95 a pair shipped & the Chevy bolt pattern I need to run the pizza cutter Dragstars that have been sitting in my garage for 8 years kills 2 birds with 1 stone. With bearings & brake lines I'll be at half or less than the cost of the Wilwood street brake kit. It's a simple bolt on & the only work involved is making the caliper adapter which will look similar to the ones they sell so you can run GM Metric calipers on Granada rotors. I can't think of a better set-up for the money. If you are skilled at fab work it's the way to go.

silly question, if you are putting pizza cutters up front (skinny tires), why are you bothering to upgrade your front brakes?  It will most likely result in flat spotted front tires since you increased the braking while decreasing the contact patch.  Not a flame, just looking at the common sense of the upgrade.
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I'm always looking for the cheap way to do things with good parts. It took 2 years to round up the brakes that will now end up on my parts car since my son wants my hatch. I found a set of new polished Wilwood calipers & pads for $200 on Ebay & they require at least a 10" dia. rotor so the 11" Granadas are perfect. $95 a pair shipped & the Chevy bolt pattern I need to run the pizza cutter Dragstars that have been sitting in my garage for 8 years kills 2 birds with 1 stone. With bearings & brake lines I'll be at half or less than the cost of the Wilwood street brake kit. It's a simple bolt on & the only work involved is making the caliper adapter which will look similar to the ones they sell so you can run GM Metric calipers on Granada rotors. I can't think of a better set-up for the money. If you are skilled at fab work it's the way to go.
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'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

amphibious6

Thanks for the reply! After posting I found that same topic, and explored my options. I would really like to get a hub, like the ones from wilwood, to allow the pinto spindles to accept a 5 lug rotor and wheel. That would give me a wider variety of rotor sizes depending on the size wheels/ what I want to do with the car later on down the road. However the ease and cost of the Granada hub/rotors with an upgraded caliper looks pretty attractive.

Pinto5.0

I dont know if the Cobra rotors will fit easily but here is a brown sedan I saw pics of with Cobra wheels & calipers.
http://www.turbopinto.com/index.php?topic=857.0

http://www.fordpinto.com/index.php/topic,15860.msg106211.html#msg106211

If thats too much work you can do what I plan to for my V8 car. 11 inch Granada rotors & a pair of 4 piston Wilwood calipers I got off Ebay cheap. All I need to do is make a bracket to bolt the caliper to the spindle & it sounds like you know how to do that already.
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amphibious6

Hi all, I have a 1980 Pinto which i have swapped a 2.3 turbo motor with a few modifications. I really need some more stopping power and have located a set of cobra calipers with 13" rotors that Id really like to use. My question is what would I have to do to convert to 5 lug to fit these rotors. As far as the caliper I can make an adapter plate. Any information is much appreciated!
Thanks