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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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ToniJ1960

 No one mentioned the brake booster are they the same v6 or 4 cylinder?

78_starsky

hi pintopower,   I was very, very lucky to get those headers.  they are Ford factory originals that came out of a 1986 Aerostar van.  back in the day Ford shoved the 2.8 into the Aerostar, and they (Ford) knew that they would be replaceing the 2.8  with the 3.0,  so instead of casting and making new cast/metal exhaust manifolds, they just made a set of header pipes for the 2.8 in those vans.  this was way cheaper for ford to do than to go full production on a motor that was going to be refitted in a year.   ask every JY you have in your area if they have any Aerostars with/had a 2.8 and see if they still have the exhaust mans.

Now back to your question,  I bought them from a guy that lives 20 miles from me.  I met him through a different web site/forum I belong to that is all Ford Rangers.  Just got extremely lucky that he happend to have an extra set of these in his basement and offered them to us for 75.00.

cheers

Pintopower

78_starsky,
They probably were to large BUT there is really no option for the V6 hooker headers. What you have is all there is. Your idea is much better. Still, you have the heat issue. Plus, where did you get the headers from? The Pinto bay is SMALL and those hookers made some nasty turns to make it out of there.
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

Pinto5.0

If you are interested & live close enough to Youngstown, OH I have a running V6 & auto trans in my '77 Pinto that you can have for 350 bucks. You can have the radiator, engine mounts & the complete exhaust if you want it for that price.
'73 Sedan (I'll get to it)
'76 Wagon driver
'80 hatch(Restoring to be my son's 1st car)~Callisto
'71 half hatch (bucket list Pinto)~Ghost
'72 sedan 5.0/T5~Lemon Squeeze

78_starsky

"A common misconception with headers is that they ALL make a car get more horsepower."

Also a common misconception is that many people think that BIG pipes = horse power... incorrect,  2.75 inch pipes are intended for motors running 300 horse and up with X-overs to stagger the flow.

From the sounds of what you ran there you actualy placed in pipes that took away the needed air velocity that runs through the pipe to control pressure. For large pipes to work  as you stated you need a HIPO motor that produces gobs of power in the 275-350 range.

2 inch pipes are intended for motors running upto 150 horse.  hope this might help some one who is wondering about pipe sizes.

cheers

78_starsky

thanks pinto,  Do you think you could have "over piped"?  and under cammed for those diameters?   my plan will be to use the ford headers, (they are tiny shorties) exit is under 2 inches at the main flange and run with 2 inch pipes no X-over to the tip, with only a small diameter thrush bottles inbetween.

pic of pipes
http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n69/ru_ready_4_r_n_r/headers.jpg

Pintopower

They were hooker super comps.
These were full length headers. Each pipe was 1 5/8 to 2.75" at the flange. Two cats and mufflers each side out the rear independently. The exhaust 2.75" all the way to flowmaster, single stage mufflers (which i got rid of also).

The car went from 130 at the rear wheels to 110. It lost all bottom end  torque and the engine lost its ability to keep cool.
The heat of the headers fried a battery and caused a fire, WITH the heat shield in place.

It had incessant exhaust leaks as the flange would never seal regardless of steel to steel mate, header gasket, manifold gasket etc.

Since they were full length headers, the trans over heated and required a auxiliary cooler installed along with a heat wrap around the headers (top to bottom).

This caused two things, the heat wrap over heated the headers and caused them to crack and it finally fried the transmission. Then the trans couldn't be pulled since the headers were so tight against it that it would not fit between them.

Oh, lets NOT forget the fact that the oil filter is damn near impossible to change with the headers there.

They are not worth it on anything but a VERY built engine with a 5 speed not used as a car. A race car, ok. A normal car? No. A common misconception with headers is that they ALL make a car get more horsepower. Ok, lets start at the beginning. Headers never add horsepower. They free it up. Some exhaust systems are SO restrictive that the car just cannot breath. So, lets free up some horseys on a 2.8.
Leave the manifolds and run new header pipes to a true dual exhaust with high flow cats and good mufflers. That is all you need. You should free up 20 ponys (or more) there.

As for the headers, the size was the problem, they were to large. The larger the header, the better the high end performance BUT the 2.8 is a high rever to start with. This means the torque curve is higher so it takes low end to get it up to the max torque in the high end. With the huge headers, it lost the low end! How was the high end? I don't know, I was busy looking at the temp gauge at 220 and the white cloud of smoke from the trans spitting ATF on my cats.

In the 10 years my car has had no headers, I have been a happy man with a happy reliable Pinto and a perfect running C4.

My fingers hurt.
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

78_starsky

"please no headers, they don't work correctly on a 2.8, I've been there."


how was your setup(s)?  Pipe size(s) ?  X-overs or straight duals? what type exhuast system?

thanks

Pintopower

1. Yes
2. Yes
3. A four speed or a T5 with some work. I know a guy with four T5 2.8s.
4. 2.8 front springs, the engine bay wiring harness, rad like you said, fan (and don't think about an electric one, it won't work). There may be a few other things. If you want to talk more, call me. Shoot me an email

pintopower@hotmail.com

I hate typing this much! I'll be out of town a few days but I can talk after the 7th of June.

please no headers, they don't work correctly on a 2.8, I've been there.
I have many Pintos, I like them....
#1. 1979 Wagon V6 Restored
#2. 1977 Wagon V6 Restored
#3. 1980 Sedan I4 Original
#4. 1974 Pangra Wagon I4 Turbo
#5. 1980 Wagon I4 Restored
#6. 1976 Bobcat Squire Hatchback (Restoring)
...Like i said, I like them.
...and I have 4 Fiats.

78txpony

Quote from: lugnut on June 03, 2010, 01:49:26 PM
At the risk of getting 2.8 fans mad at me, I would not bother trying to switch to a V-6.  I used to have a 77 Bobcat w/ the V-6 and it did not seem that much more powerful than a 2.3. The gas mileage was not very good, and the engine is really packed in there so it was hard to work on.  The most positive thing about it was that it ran smoother than a 2.3.
mike
Many of these points were addressed in a very old motortrend test drive report i have (somewhere.)  The power was rated about the same with v6 with auto and l4 with stick. 
V6 was smoother with the loss of mileage and the addition of weight. 

The L4 has more add-on parts available. 
The 6 with a stick would be interesting, but that seems to open up another can of cash requirements (tranny, bellhousing, new radiator (hose connections on opposite sides), mounts, plus the rebuild / recondition.  Then include the reengineering needed to get it all to work. 

I still think it would be good to recondition the original motor (seals, gaskets, cleaning, etc) so you can start driving the car, and while doing so, build up the motor of your choice. 
-Rob Young
1978 Pinto Pony sedan (Old Faithful) a.k.a. "the Tramp"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thelonerider2005/sets
1972 Cutlass Supreme Convertible (442 clone) -"Lady" (My mistress...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/robsalbum/sets
1986 Cutlass Supreme Coupe - "Pristine"
1997 H-D Sportster

Bigtimmay

1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

78_starsky

Hi,  i can't comment on the swap, however I am sure you won't have any probs fitting it in. Guys toss in V8's after some mods and they fit.   I can give info on this thou....
4) What other peripheral items would I need to allow for this (radiator, obviously, and perhaps headers (good luck there), what else?)
the header part is not that hard if you can find a 1985-86 ford aerostar with the 2.8 in it.  ford made a custom header that was installed factory with every 2.8.  I can post a pic of mine if you want to see them.

cheers

lugnut

At the risk of getting 2.8 fans mad at me, I would not bother trying to switch to a V-6.  I used to have a 77 Bobcat w/ the V-6 and it did not seem that much more powerful than a 2.3. The gas mileage was not very good, and the engine is really packed in there so it was hard to work on.  The most positive thing about it was that it ran smoother than a 2.3.
mike

75bobcatv6

well, Ive had my bobcat for about 5 years now, I love the 2.8 thats in it. you can swap one in but you need the 2.8 mounts im sure.
you can use the mustang v6 4 spd if you can find one. My 2.8 has over 400k on it and still runs well. so reliability is on the owner and how they take care of the engine. same goes with any motor. mine has been well cared for. by my father and me. regular oil changes help. i think i do mine every 1500 miles or so ( i know thats early but its helped keep things working wel). so its all dependant on what you wanna get out of it =)

Bigtimmay

im pretty sure you would need a different trans or atleast a different bell housing. The motor mounts are different if your car was a 2.3 with a/c and has the 20 inch radiator it would prolly work but not 100% sure on that.

The motor should fit in the engine bay.

As for doing the swap me personally i wouldnt i had a 79 with the 2.8 its was aight but well the 2.3 can have just as much power and still get just as good gas mileage if not better and the 2.3 will last forever come on look how long most have lasted already lol.
1978 Mercury Bobcat 2.3t swapped.Always needs more parts!

popbumper

I can see the 2.8L V6 topic is very hot right now, so with that fresh in everyone's minds, I have some important questions (and I am hoping Pintopower will chime in  ;D).

I have a '76 wagon with the 2.3. Yes, yes, I actually have TWO 2.3 motors, but I have been leaning towards the 2.8 for some time, and with the engine compartment bare, there's no time like the present. I also have an 8" rear end, no worries there. A local guy has a rebuilt 2.8 for $600, which i am investigating. Given that:

1) Will the 2.8 fit the '76 engine compartment?
2) Would it use the same motor mounts as the 2.3?
3) WHAT MANUAL tranny would work behind this motor?
4) What other peripheral items would I need to allow for this (radiator, obviously, and perhaps headers (good luck there), what else?)

I would SURE appreciate the 2.8 guys chiming in here. Any tips/tricks/etc.

THANKS!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08