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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

Brackets on 1978 Runabout, 2.3l

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71pintoracer

Quote from: Oddzball on February 19, 2010, 12:32:24 PM
Its broken off inside the hole, about 1/2 inch or so... so cant cut a slot in it. That welding idea sounds interesting, the way i understand it the hole would fille with the metal, attaching to the stud, but shouldnt bond to the cast iron... which means it should work..

Not to comfortable with welding on cast iron though, never done that before.
if it's broken off that far in I would just drill it anouther 1/4" or so and tap it.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

woodie

 look up HeliCoil inserts on line good stuf is the motor in or out of the car
watch this

78txpony

Wow- thats deep...  In fact it is so deep, that there ~might~ just be enough threads to use a shorter bolt...  If not, hope you get it out somehow, or go the electric pump route. 
-Rob Young
1978 Pinto Pony sedan (Old Faithful) a.k.a. "the Tramp"
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Oddzball

Its broken off inside the hole, about 1/2 inch or so... so cant cut a slot in it. That welding idea sounds interesting, the way i understand it the hole would fille with the metal, attaching to the stud, but shouldnt bond to the cast iron... which means it should work..

Not to comfortable with welding on cast iron though, never done that before.

78txpony

I once took a small cutting wheel on a dremel and cut a slot in the stud.  I then took a screwdriver and backed the stud out like a screw... 
-Rob Young
1978 Pinto Pony sedan (Old Faithful) a.k.a. "the Tramp"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/thelonerider2005/sets
1972 Cutlass Supreme Convertible (442 clone) -"Lady" (My mistress...)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/robsalbum/sets
1986 Cutlass Supreme Coupe - "Pristine"
1997 H-D Sportster

dave1987

For the broken alternator bracket bolts on my 73's 2.0...

If I can't get them out with an easy-out, I will be drilling the old bolts out, and using a helicoil to add new threads to it.
1978 Ford Pinto Sedan - Family owned since new

Remembering Jeff Fitcher with every drive in my 78 Sedan.

I am a Pinto Surgeon. Fixing problems and giving Pintos a chance to live again is more than a hobby, it's a passion!

rctinker

Hi oddz,
I have an old auto body friend that showed me a trick with broke off bolts. I was changing the tranny in my s10 and broke 4 of the 6 exahust manifold flange bolts off inside the holes, 2 were broke way up inside. They were 3/8. He took a 3/8 nut, held it up to the hole with vicegrips and with a wire feed welder welded the nut to the broken bolt. Then heated up the metal till it was dull red, and put a socket and rachet on the nut and they came rite out. Not sure if this will help but thought I would share.

Robert
1977 Crusin Wagon when I was 16

Fred Morgan

Depends on accessories installed.  Fred   :)
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Oddzball

Alright, i think i got it now. My brackets are just differrent for some reason. Did ford use differrent brackets for cars depending on where they were made?

Fred Morgan

Take a look. Fred   :)
Fred Morgan- Missing from us...
January 20th 1951-January 6th 2014

Beloved PCCA Parts Supplier and Friend to many.
Post your well wishes,
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Oddzball

Darn work blocks photobucket.. But I will check when i get home. Appreciate it.

phils toys

for pc try this likn  at aqbout 45 sec  are my engine pic i may have mor if you need them
Phil'sToys 1976 Mercury Bobcat Villager
you can try here as well but have to look through the pic 
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Oddzball

Also working on the wiring harness... got to redo most of the wired as the coating is all dry and cracked off, most of the wires are exposed, and plugs are corroded.

Wish i knew a good place to find a replacement that wasnt going to cost an arm and a leg.


Oddzball

Well, I tried a snapon easy out, and it ended up ripping out the hole even worse. Im thinking i might have to drill out the hole and put new threads in it. Or seal it off by welding/steel plate and go electric.

71pintoracer

As far as the broken bolt, I bought a set of easy-outs from snap-on, came with left handed drill bits that are super hard and super sharp, well worth the money. Haven't had a bolt yet that didn't come out. You may need some heat, even if it's with a propane torch.
If you don't have time to do it right, when will you have time to do it over?

Pangra74

There are also a couple of bolts down the side as well, but probably not for your car, as mine is a newer system and I had to cut the bracket to clear the fuel pump as there is no fuel pump on the newer 2.3's, they are electric with fuel injection.
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Pangra74

The top of the alternator is attached to a small bracket that attaches to the cylinder head in front of the intake manifold. It has 3 holes in it and sort of goes vertically. The power steering bracket mounts to the holes in the block directly in front of the distributor. You can't see the bolts in this pic, but they are right in front of the distributor.
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Oddzball

Also, is the power steering mounted to the front of the block? if so that would probably be one of the biggest things i was forgetting...

Oddzball

Awesome, that bracket on the bottom of the alternator i definately have, what is attached to the top of the alternator?

Pangra74

This is what my system looks like
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Oddzball

Wish i could find a decent picture of the front of a 78 2.3l block with the brackets on it, been looking all morning.

Pangra74

Somebody else will probably respond, but I would guess that the power steering mounts below the alternator on the driver's side. There is a mounting area on the 2.3 block just in front of the distributor which is used often as a place to mount brackets. I added power steering to mine using a serpentine belt system from a newer Mustang, but because mine didn't have power steering originally. I do remember though that the old alternator bracket mounted to that spot as well as the new serpentine power steering/alternator combo
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Oddzball

I would post picks but work blocks that stuff.

brackets are..... AC already mounted on passenger side, I need to remember how to mount the power steering pump, and alternator.

I almost feel as though i lost a bracket somewhere, or got it mixed up with some other parts laying around the garage. its like a tetris piece that just wont fit. drving me absolutely insane for sure.

Pangra74

Can't help you with the brackets without seeing them, but I would suggest getting an electric fuel pump if there is enough thread to put a metal cover over the fuel pump hole. One bolt might seal it up ok with some silicone. Just make sure you get a fuel shutoff valve to kill the fuel pump in case of an accident.

I'm planning on getting an electric pump for mine.

Joe
1974 Orange Runabout
1974 soon to be Cruisin' Wagon

Oddzball

Well, I am new to this board, I guess i can give  a little background info. I was car shopping up in tucson last year and spotted this pinto on craigslist. I went to this old mans house and no kidding, in his garage was a 1978 Pinto runabout, hunter green, with the checkered yellow and green interior, but the best to see was the car had ~60k original miles, and absolutely not rust, or damage, the paint looked almost brand new, and the interior looks like it just came off the factory line, only repair was re-sewing a seat seam and part of a head liner pleat.

Engine had obviously been well taken care of, I could see new plug wires and what was obvious regular maintence, fluids were all clean, no grunge or gunk anywhere, new brake pads, I mean someone really loved his pinto.

Well the old guy loved his car, but he just didnt get out of the house much, and so he agreed to sell it to me, for 1400 dollars. I was a very happy man.

Well, now the bad... for some odd reason on my way back down to sierra vista (bought a 70 mile trip) at about the halfway point, I spun a crank bearing, and screwed the crank and the piston. I was going about 80 so it was not pretty.

So fast forward to many long months of a total rebuild, i started in august of 2009, it is now feb 2010. Motor has been completely rebuilt, just about ready to go back in. Unfortunately a few things are stopping me cold.

#1 I was retarded and busted off a bolt in the block putting the fuel pump back on. Easyout isnt working, so I am not sure what to do, it is busted within the hole so i cant weld anything to it.
#2 I cannot for the life of me remember how the accessory brackets go back on the motor. I have the AC bracket on, but everything else, i just cant remember/figure it out.

I guess I need some advice on what to do about the bolt, and also, pictures or a drawing of how the brackets/accessories go.

I would really appreciate it.

PS if anyone is in sierra vista, AZ area I coudl really use some help, I am more of a shade tree mechanic which is why it took me 6 months to get the motor done.

Thanks,

Owen