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Why the Ford Pinto didn’t suck

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suckThe Ford Pinto was born a low-rent, stumpy thing in Dearborn 40 years ago and grew to become one of the most infamous cars in history. The thing is that it didn't actually suck. Really.

Even after four decades, what's the first thing that comes to mind when most people think of the Ford Pinto? Ka-BLAM! The truth is the Pinto was more than that — and this is the story of how the exploding Pinto became a pre-apocalyptic narrative, how the myth was exposed, and why you should race one.

The Pinto was CEO Lee Iacocca's baby, a homegrown answer to the threat of compact-sized economy cars from Japan and Germany, the sales of which had grown significantly throughout the 1960s. Iacocca demanded the Pinto cost under $2,000, and weigh under 2,000 pounds. It was an all-hands-on-deck project, and Ford got it done in 25 months from concept to production.

Building its own small car meant Ford's buyers wouldn't have to hew to the Japanese government's size-tamping regulations; Ford would have the freedom to choose its own exterior dimensions and engine sizes based on market needs (as did Chevy with the Vega and AMC with the Gremlin). And people cold dug it.

When it was unveiled in late 1970 (ominously on September 11), US buyers noted the Pinto's pleasant shape — bringing to mind a certain tailless amphibian — and interior layout hinting at a hipster's sunken living room. Some call it one of the ugliest cars ever made, but like fans of Mischa Barton, Pinto lovers care not what others think. With its strong Kent OHV four (a distant cousin of the Lotus TwinCam), the Pinto could at least keep up with its peers, despite its drum brakes and as long as one looked past its Russian-roulette build quality.

But what of the elephant in the Pinto's room? Yes, the whole blowing-up-on-rear-end-impact thing. It all started a little more than a year after the Pinto's arrival.

 

Grimshaw v. Ford Motor Company

On May 28, 1972, Mrs. Lilly Gray and 13-year-old passenger Richard Grimshaw, set out from Anaheim, California toward Barstow in Gray's six-month-old Ford Pinto. Gray had been having trouble with the car since new, returning it to the dealer several times for stalling. After stopping in San Bernardino for gasoline, Gray got back on I-15 and accelerated to around 65 mph. Approaching traffic congestion, she moved from the left lane to the middle lane, where the car suddenly stalled and came to a stop. A 1962 Ford Galaxie, the driver unable to stop or swerve in time, rear-ended the Pinto. The Pinto's gas tank was driven forward, and punctured on the bolts of the differential housing.

As the rear wheel well sections separated from the floor pan, a full tank of fuel sprayed straight into the passenger compartment, which was engulfed in flames. Gray later died from congestive heart failure, a direct result of being nearly incinerated, while Grimshaw was burned severely and left permanently disfigured. Grimshaw and the Gray family sued Ford Motor Company (among others), and after a six-month jury trial, verdicts were returned against Ford Motor Company. Ford did not contest amount of compensatory damages awarded to Grimshaw and the Gray family, and a jury awarded the plaintiffs $125 million, which the judge in the case subsequently reduced to the low seven figures. Other crashes and other lawsuits followed.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Mother Jones and Pinto Madness

In 1977, Mark Dowie, business manager of Mother Jones magazine published an article on the Pinto's "exploding gas tanks." It's the same article in which we first heard the chilling phrase, "How much does Ford think your life is worth?" Dowie had spent days sorting through filing cabinets at the Department of Transportation, examining paperwork Ford had produced as part of a lobbying effort to defeat a federal rear-end collision standard. That's where Dowie uncovered an innocuous-looking memo entitled "Fatalities Associated with Crash-Induced Fuel Leakage and Fires."

The Car Talk blog describes why the memo proved so damning.

In it, Ford's director of auto safety estimated that equipping the Pinto with [an] $11 part would prevent 180 burn deaths, 180 serious burn injuries and 2,100 burned cars, for a total cost of $137 million. Paying out $200,000 per death, $67,000 per injury and $700 per vehicle would cost only $49.15 million.

The government would, in 1978, demand Ford recall the million or so Pintos on the road to deal with the potential for gas-tank punctures. That "smoking gun" memo would become a symbol for corporate callousness and indifference to human life, haunting Ford (and other automakers) for decades. But despite the memo's cold calculations, was Ford characterized fairly as the Kevorkian of automakers?

Perhaps not. In 1991, A Rutgers Law Journal report [PDF] showed the total number of Pinto fires, out of 2 million cars and 10 years of production, stalled at 27. It was no more than any other vehicle, averaged out, and certainly not the thousand or more suggested by Mother Jones.

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

The big rebuttal, and vindication?

But what of the so-called "smoking gun" memo Dowie had unearthed? Surely Ford, and Lee Iacocca himself, were part of a ruthless establishment who didn't care if its customers lived or died, right? Well, not really. Remember that the memo was a lobbying document whose audience was intended to be the NHTSA. The memo didn't refer to Pintos, or even Ford products, specifically, but American cars in general. It also considered rollovers not rear-end collisions. And that chilling assignment of value to a human life? Indeed, it was federal regulators who often considered that startling concept in their own deliberations. The value figure used in Ford's memo was the same one regulators had themselves set forth.

In fact, measured by occupant fatalities per million cars in use during 1975 and 1976, the Pinto's safety record compared favorably to other subcompacts like the AMC Gremlin, Chevy Vega, Toyota Corolla and VW Beetle.

And what of Mother Jones' Dowie? As the Car Talk blog points out, Dowie now calls the Pinto, "a fabulous vehicle that got great gas mileage," if not for that one flaw: The legendary "$11 part."

Why the Ford Pinto didn't suck

Pinto Racing Doesn't Suck

Back in 1974, Car and Driver magazine created a Pinto for racing, an exercise to prove brains and common sense were more important than an unlimited budget and superstar power. As Patrick Bedard wrote in the March, 1975 issue of Car and Driver, "It's a great car to drive, this Pinto," referring to the racer the magazine prepared for the Goodrich Radial Challenge, an IMSA-sanctioned road racing series for small sedans.

Why'd they pick a Pinto over, say, a BMW 2002 or AMC Gremlin? Current owner of the prepped Pinto, Fox Motorsports says it was a matter of comparing the car's frontal area, weight, piston displacement, handling, wheel width, and horsepower to other cars of the day that would meet the entry criteria. (Racers like Jerry Walsh had by then already been fielding Pintos in IMSA's "Baby Grand" class.)

Bedard, along with Ron Nash and company procured a 30,000-mile 1972 Pinto two-door to transform. In addition to safety, chassis and differential mods, the team traded a 200-pound IMSA weight penalty for the power gain of Ford's 2.3-liter engine, which Bedard said "tipped the scales" in the Pinto's favor. But according to Bedard, it sounds like the real advantage was in the turns, thanks to some add-ons from Mssrs. Koni and Bilstein.

"The Pinto's advantage was cornering ability," Bedard wrote. "I don't think there was another car in the B. F. Goodrich series that was quicker through the turns on a dry track. The steering is light and quick, and the suspension is direct and predictable in a way that street cars never can be. It never darts over bumps, the axle is perfectly controlled and the suspension doesn't bottom."

Need more proof of the Pinto's lack of suck? Check out the SCCA Washington, DC region's spec-Pinto series.

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My Somewhat Begrudging Apology To Ford Pinto

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I never thought I’d offer an apology to the Ford Pinto, but I guess I owe it one.

I had a Pinto in the 1970s. Actually, my wife bought it a few months before we got married. The car became sort of a wedding dowry. So did the remaining 80% of the outstanding auto loan.

During a relatively brief ownership, the Pinto’s repair costs exceeded the original price of the car. It wasn’t a question of if it would fail, but when. And where. Sometimes, it simply wouldn’t start in the driveway. Other times, it would conk out at a busy intersection.

It ranks as the worst car I ever had. That was back when some auto makers made quality something like Job 100, certainly not Job 1.

Despite my bad Pinto experience, I suppose an apology is in order because of a recent blog I wrote. It centered on Toyota’s sudden-acceleration problems. But in discussing those, I invoked the memory of exploding Pintos, perpetuating an inaccuracy.

The widespread allegation was that, due to a design flaw, Pinto fuel tanks could readily blow up in rear-end collisions, setting the car and its occupants afire.

People started calling the Pinto “the barbecue that seats four.” And the lawsuits spread like wild fire.

Responding to my blog, a Ford (“I would very much prefer to keep my name out of print”) manager contacted me to set the record straight.

He says exploding Pintos were a myth that an investigation debunked nearly 20 years ago. He cites Gary Schwartz’ 1991 Rutgers Law Review paper that cut through the wild claims and examined what really happened.

Schwartz methodically determined the actual number of Pinto rear-end explosion deaths was not in the thousands, as commonly thought, but 27.

In 1975-76, the Pinto averaged 310 fatalities a year. But the similar-size Toyota Corolla averaged 313, the VW Beetle 374 and the Datsun 1200/210 came in at 405.

Yes, there were cases such as a Pinto exploding while parked on the shoulder of the road and hit from behind by a speeding pickup truck. But fiery rear-end collisions comprised only 0.6% of all fatalities back then, and the Pinto had a lower death rate in that category than the average compact or subcompact, Schwartz said after crunching the numbers. Nor was there anything about the Pinto’s rear-end design that made it particularly unsafe.

Not content to portray the Pinto as an incendiary device, ABC’s 20/20 decided to really heat things up in a 1978 broadcast containing “startling new developments.” ABC breathlessly reported that, not just Pintos, but fullsize Fords could blow up if hit from behind.

20/20 thereupon aired a video, shot by UCLA researchers, showing a Ford sedan getting rear-ended and bursting into flames. A couple of problems with that video:

One, it was shot 10 years earlier.

Two, the UCLA researchers had openly said in a published report that they intentionally rigged the vehicle with an explosive.

That’s because the test was to determine how a crash fire affected the car’s interior, not to show how easily Fords became fire balls. They said they had to use an accelerant because crash blazes on their own are so rare. They had tried to induce a vehicle fire in a crash without using an igniter, but failed.

ABC failed to mention any of that when correspondent Sylvia Chase reported on “Ford’s secret rear-end crash tests.”

We could forgive ABC for that botched reporting job. After all, it was 32 years ago. But a few weeks ago, ABC, in another one of its rigged auto exposes, showed video of a Toyota apparently accelerating on its own.

Turns out, the “runaway” vehicle had help from an associate professor. He built a gizmo with an on-off switch to provide acceleration on demand. Well, at least ABC didn’t show the Toyota slamming into a wall and bursting into flames.

In my blog, I also mentioned that Ford’s woes got worse in the 1970s with the supposed uncovering of an internal memo by a Ford attorney who allegedly calculated it would cost less to pay off wrongful-death suits than to redesign the Pinto.

It became known as the “Ford Pinto memo,” a smoking gun. But Schwartz looked into that, too. He reported the memo did not pertain to Pintos or any Ford products. Instead, it had to do with American vehicles in general.

It dealt with rollovers, not rear-end crashes. It did not address tort liability at all, let alone advocate it as a cheaper alternative to a redesign. It put a value to human life because federal regulators themselves did so.

The memo was meant for regulators’ eyes only. But it was off to the races after Mother Jones magazine got a hold of a copy and reported what wasn’t the case.

The exploding-Pinto myth lives on, largely because more Americans watch 20/20 than read the Rutgers Law Review. One wonders what people will recollect in 2040 about Toyota’s sudden accelerations, which more and more look like driver error and, in some cases, driver shams.

So I guess I owe the Pinto an apology. But it’s half-hearted, because my Pinto gave me much grief, even though, as the Ford manager notes, “it was a cheap car, built long ago and lots of things have changed, almost all for the better.”

Here goes: If I said anything that offended you, Pinto, I’m sorry. And thanks for not blowing up on me.

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wedge446

Get a hole saw and cut everything thats not needed
With a cutting torch and welded anything will fit.

LSXPINTO

weight reduction update
back seat with sound deadening behind seat 41lbs
crash bars 9lbs each side                                18lbs
prostar xp's to greg welds                                45lbs
                                                                        =97lbs

still need to cut up the rear bumper reinforcement and remove all the unneeded stuff under the car (gas tank/exhaust hangers, undercoating) and anything else I can find
Scott
1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

LSXPINTO

Scaled the car tonight for kicks with just the motor and rear and full (race) interior.  2120lbs.  so I figured around 500lbs for trans, cage, radiator, fuel cell, turbo and other bs.
1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

popbumper

Good looking car! It will be really >sick< wiith that monster motor - what a sleeper!

Chris
Restoring a 1976 MPG wagon - purchased 6/08

LSXPINTO

Quote from: nospinto72 on October 22, 2008, 08:50:28 PM
I saw your post in the racer forum that your car weighed 2900 lbs.
You may want to get an earlier car they are lighter but they have a smaller engine bay.

That isn't it's current weight that was bone stock a/c, heat, carpet sound deadening, full tank of gas with the stock tank, steel wheels,  stock bumper supports crash bars, spare tire/jack, stock radiator, vacuum brakes etc. 
The LS1, TH400 and 8.8 rear are in the car.  Too much work to switch and not to mention finding one in  decent condition. 

I've seen some pretty lightweight v8 79s so I'm hopeful.
SR
1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

nospinto72

I saw your post in the racer forum that your car weighed 2900 lbs.
You may want to get an earlier car they are lighter but they have a smaller engine bay.
dragracing rules

LSXPINTO

Quote from: BlueGoldPinto on October 20, 2008, 08:35:00 PM
I'm sorry, I saw your subject title and I just have to post this......
Have you tried Jenny Craig?
or mabye some of those Slim Fast shakes?
;) ;) :D ;D
BGP

Thanks ;D  I'm working on that.  5lbs down 20 to go.
1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

Srt

the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

BlueGoldPinto

I'm sorry, I saw your subject title and I just have to post this......
Have you tried Jenny Craig?
or mabye some of those Slim Fast shakes?
;) ;) :D ;D
BGP
My theory on the Gas Tank of the Ford Pinto:
If it ain't fixed, don't break it!! :)

Srt

you would be surprised at how heavy window glass can be.  use lexan
the only substitute for cubic inches is BOOST!!!

turbo74pinto

 if your just going to drag it and not do any nascar turning, dump that front sway bar.  if it has it.  i took the sound deadening crap from the fire wall off also.  i switched to manual brake and steering too.  also got rid of the windshield washer stuff. 
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

turbo74pinto

Quote from: map351 on October 18, 2008, 04:57:40 PM
The 2.3 turbo will go deep in the single digits.
Flanders 2.5 goes 8.90s

JD's this would be a 9.80 > http://www.eville140.com/video/jd120.wmv

Joe Morgan went low 8.32 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufdZGwjGKP0&feature=related


wheres Huber??  79 fox body, fastest i think is 8.97 now. 

bob
Take a job big or small, do it right or not at all.

LSXPINTO

1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

map351

The 2.3 turbo will go deep in the single digits.
Flanders 2.5 goes 8.90s

JD's this would be a 9.80 > http://www.eville140.com/video/jd120.wmv

Joe Morgan went low 8.32 > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufdZGwjGKP0&feature=related
73 2.3Turbo Pinto
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LSXPINTO

That ls1 looks sick.
I've got the ls1 in with a th400.   Actually it took my Brother some time but that's what he does for a living.  It's getting a 76mm turbo with a liquid to air intercooler. 
I'm going for single digits ;D
1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

map351

LS1!
By the time you make all the modifications to make a LS1 fit you could bolt in a 2.3 turbo and have a mid 11 sec street car. I just installed a LS1/T-56 in a 39 Chevy Cp and a LS1 Ain't gonna fit in a pinto without moving the firewall and the trans tunnel.
I used a Bitchin Big block firewall and had to add 2" to make the LS1 fit, then the trans tunnel was another nightmare because the trans is so wide. Your in for a lot of work.
Sell the LS1 and build a good 2.3 Turbo..



73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

LSXPINTO

Quote from: douglasskemp on October 18, 2008, 10:56:46 AM
FIBERGLASS...

Need I say more?
Oh, and if your car is the one in your avatar, post some pics!  I have always liked the cars with the Ford accent stripes...when I was a kid I wished for a black 79 Bronco with the red/orange/yellow stripes.

Pics...







1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

douglasskemp

FIBERGLASS...

Need I say more?
Oh, and if your car is the one in your avatar, post some pics!  I have always liked the cars with the Ford accent stripes...when I was a kid I wished for a black 79 Bronco with the red/orange/yellow stripes.
The Pinto I had I gave to my brother. The car was originally my mom's, (78 red Pinto sedan with a 2.3 and a 4spd.) I am originally from Tucson, AZ but moved to Oxnard CA :D
I'm looking for a Pinto wagon with an automatic.

LSXPINTO

I have an aluminum LS1!
I want it as light as possible. 
Scott
1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.

map351

73 2.3Turbo Pinto
6S1941 / 289 Slab Side
40 Ford Sedan Delivery  For Sale

Pinto FiberGlass
https://picasaweb.google.com/73turbopinto/PintoHotpantsKitNewFrontAirdam

Smeed


'73 runabout

apintonut

go aluminum engine cuts the weight way down!

74 hatch soon to be turbo 2.3
73 sedan soon to be painted
stiletto parts(4 sale)
79 pinto wagon & beentoad
wtb 75 yellow w/ black int. (rally?) like profile pic.

LSXPINTO

I'm looking for something I missed to get some weight out of my 79 Pinto.9
I've done everything I could think of.  Any other ideas?
Here is what I have so far.

Sound deadening under carpet 35lbs with carpet
HVAC 41.5lbs not including condenser.
spare tire/jack didn't weight
Front bumper supports changed to chrome moly
and a few other things
I'm also going to remove the crash bars in the door.  Any Idea what they weight? UPDATE 9lbs each.
Thanks,
Scott

Here are the things i've weighed so far
seats 32lbs each
heater controls 4lbs
8track player 6lbs
heat ac box 27lbs
vents 3lbs
carpet with sound deadening 35lbs
rubber a/c hose in fender
2 factory door speakers .75lbs each
crash bars 9lbs each
back seat with metal bracket 39lbs
sound deadening behind back seat 2lbs
1979 Pinto LS1 76mm turbo project. th400 trans. 8.8 rear. 11inch 5 Lug on all four corners.  Hopefully it will be done spring 2009.