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Title: Blocking off water passage
Post by: Ironman on June 30, 2008, 10:27:08 PM
Hello again,

2000 cc tech question,...

will blocking the water passage that flows through the intake manifold cause overheating, or higher temps in the rear cylinders?
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: Ironman on July 01, 2008, 01:30:39 AM

Howdy,

Its my intention to install a DCOE manifold when I build the engine. at present I'm just trying to get the car drivable so I have a little better feel for what it is exactly I have.
The car sat for 21 years under a make shift carport,.. lots of parts are siezed or deteriorated. the heater core leaks and instead of looping the hose, I was going to put a plug in the intake manifold, and cap the water pump outlet for the heater.
BTW,.. the DCOE manifold offered from the UK looks as though it has a provision for the water passage that outlets on the bottom.

Which brings up another question,.. is anyone aware of a source for said manifold stateside?
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: oldkayaker on July 01, 2008, 08:30:45 AM
It looks like the heater circuit provides coolant circulation through the engine until the the thermostat opens.  This should even out the head block temperatures and avoid hot spots during warm up.  In the 90's 2.3 engine where the intake water passage is not used, Ford made a thermostat housing with a tap for the heater circuit.  The racer that I crew for uses an orifice plate instead of a thermostat which would provide circulation during warm up.

This only affects the warm up period and I may be all wet on this minor concern.  
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: 71pintoracer on July 01, 2008, 09:23:29 PM
This is used to warm the intake during cold temps so the carb won't ice up. My holley 350 would ice up under 40 degrees even with it hooked up due to the cold air coming in the blower scoop! On my race engines I always blocked it off.
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: Ironman on July 02, 2008, 01:37:48 AM
So it sounds like,....

1. Blocked off water passage is no big deal unless your shoving lots of air on a cold day.

2. Blocking the water passage has no effect for uneven heating in the cylinder head,.. (ie rear cylinders at higher temps.)

I am a long way off from the build,.. probably a year. It will take me that long to have a good understanding of what makes the 2000 come alive, what is available to make that happen, and what my preferences are. It also allows me to amass parts without having to take out a loan..  I have only had 3 dedicated projects. the last one took two years, and cost only $4500 but produced a one of a kind 340 hp 4 banger that anihlated Hondas, and transaxles regularly,.. on pump gas and without anything "stuffing" air into it.

I have a feeling this will cost twice that, and may take near the same time to complete.

I'll try not to bother ya all too much, but as I said from the jump,..I want to make informed decisions.

BTW 71pintoracer,... nice car man!

oldkayaker, you said you crew,... road, circle, or straight line?
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: oldkayaker on July 02, 2008, 05:49:13 AM
The person I crew for drives a historical road race car in HSR.  The car is unfortunately not a Ford but a Nissan/Datsun 200SX with a turbo 4 cylinder (about1770cc).  It is an old IMSA GTU car.  I prefer drag race cars (usually less body work needed).
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: Ironman on July 02, 2008, 05:29:32 PM
I like the road cars,.. thats actualy going to be the "theme" of my build.

I crewed 4 seasons with a "Winston West" tour car a few years back. I hear you on the bodywork thing ;),... in our class it wasnt too bad, weld in a couple new supports and pop rivet some new panels.
I would have fallen out of love pretty quick if I had to work body metal.

I went to a historical road race a few years back at S.I.R.,.. I think the groups name was Soviergn. I saw some beautiful cars there including an FIA-GTC Falcon.

Since then I've been toying with the idea of building a street version of that type.
When I found this Pinto in its stock Red White and Blue color scheme it clicked.

If you or anyone else know any "killer combinations" for the 2000 cc I'd love to hear about em.  :)

Scratch the last part,.. I've done some navigating around this site, and there is tons of conversation from folks who build and race the the 2000 cc.
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: Bipper on July 03, 2008, 12:21:45 PM
Quote from: Ironman on July 02, 2008, 05:29:32 PM
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When I found this Pinto in its stock Red White and Blue color scheme it clicked.


Could you post a picture of your car.

Bob
Title: Re: Blocking off water passage
Post by: Ironman on July 03, 2008, 07:14:31 PM
I'll try,

How do you put up a picture?
Use terms for the computer illiterate,.. It took me a week just to figure out how to navigate around this site.