Here is my 73 Pinto Hatchback. Originally a 2.0L, 4spd car. The car has been converted to a carborated 2.3L Turbo with a 5spd out of a SVO Mustang. The car has 59K original miles. Out back is a Mustang II 8" rear. The car has been lowered and has 15x7" Centerlines. Inside is a deluxe blue interior which is in fair condition. Added were Flowfit Racing buckets and a Mustang II sport steering wheel. I will take better pictures once I install the battery and move the car.
Here is the engine.
Interesting intake manifold, where did you get that? or did you make it? BTW I like your choice of carb's, is that a Holley 2300 series, either 7448 or 4412?
The intake came with the engine and tranny. My friend that had the Group II Pinto put this car together. The engine was rebuilt shortly before he bought it. It has forged slugs and a punched out head with a roller cam. He lost interest in the car since he could never get it to run right. When you get on the throttle, the engine detonates like crazy.
I parted out an 86 Turbo coupe a few years back. I kept the motor and tranny and wiring to someday transplant into my wagon. The Tbird motor and turbo are both very worn and need to be rebuilt.
I bought this car for the engine and the turbo. My friend made me such a good deal that I just couldn't pass. It would have cost me way more than I paid for the whole car to rebuild my engine and turbo.
My original plan was to take the motor and parts I wanted and sell or part out the rest of the car. Now I am thinking I want to play with the car. I am thinking to install the FI off my bird engine onto this engine, when I have the time and space. As it is now, this car is at a friends house.
BTW, the carb is a 4412.
Go with the EFI. Sounds like your motor is leaning WAY out. The EFI swap is really not that hard to do. You will need to put in a high pressure fuel pump. Looks like you have a nice car to start with..I wouldn't part it out if I was you.
SVOwagon
Love it!...
I always thought Centerlines looked killer on the Pinto.
Lets see more pics!
i just love that pinto it was almost like mine
Ive been real busy lately with my other cars and have not had time to play with this one. I still need to re-install the battery and let the engine run.
I just bought some Racer Walsh lowering blocks off Ebay. I think they will motivate me to work on the car. I hope they arrive soon. I had to take the 2" lowering blocks off because the aluminum driveshaft was rubbing on the transmission tunnel. I hope these 1.5" blocks allow the D.S. to have enough clearance. THe nice thing about the Racer Walsh blocks is that you do not use the rubber isolators to locate the axle.
If you have any interest in selling this car please Email me because it is exactly what i'm looking for. I'd like to take it off your hands.
Thanks
Outstunn1@aol.com
Here are some recent pics....
The other side
Someone backed into it at work and took off :(
The interior is rough but the sport wheel is almost mint.
how much did you lower the front of the car. It looks killer
Thanks.... It looked better with 2" blocks in the back but the driveshaft was rubbing against the tranny tunnel. I think my friend took off 2 coils from the front but the springs are not stock. Unfortunately, we do not know what they were off of. They have been kicking around his garage for years. I am undecided if I am leaving it as is or raising it a little. So far in the 40 miles I have driven the car, nothing has rubbed or scraped but it has not been aligned yet. The oil pan is quite low and worries me. Also, I am not sure if it will even align properly?
Aw man! Great stance.
Looks like a good project car.
Id be working on mine if it wasnt 6*F outside.
Quote from: Glassman on January 26, 2004, 04:24:53 PM
Aw man! Great stance.
Looks like a good project car.
Id be working on mine if it wasnt 6*F outside.
Thanks, I am so glad I bought it. I think it will be a nice car when I finish it. Next summer, I plan to get the body damage repaired as well as taking care of the surface rust on the roof. I am thinking of painted it Grabber blue or the new Mustang Mach 1 Azule blue. Not sure if it will be painted this year though. It will depend on how much the paint and materials cost. I am also wanting to convert the interior to black but am having a hard time finding a set of black deluxe door panels ::) I am slowly collecting parts though. A couple weeks ago, I picked up a near perfect dashpad and instrument bezel out of a wrecking yard for next to nothing. Hopefully this weekend, I will finally seal the deal on a set of NOS or rechromed bumpers. ;D There is a local guy parting out a 71 drag car that has perfect bumpers and trim. He can't get what he wants for it locally so he is going to keep the motor and seats and part the rest out. It's a sedan, is anyone looking for anything in particular?
After being persistant and patent for the past 3 months I finally got the bumpers I wanted. They are so nice! No dings, scraps, or bumper guard holes. Chrome is perfect, no age spots or faded area. I also picked up the tail lights and a set of H4 headlamps. The tail lamp and housings were NOS as well when they were put on the car and are also in perfect condition. Now I just need a some interior pieces and a little weatherstripping and my parts hunt should be over for a while ::)
I brought my Turbo car home today ;D My friend was nice enough to stored it for me for the past couple years on his RV pad but now that he is selling his house I had to bring it home. The car needs a lot of work still but it is nice and water tight. I will need to redo the brakes as they are pretty bad now. The gas tank is rusty so that will need attention soon as well. I am debating on rasing the front a little as this thing is pretty low. I am afraid that once it is aligned, the tires will rub. Here is a quick pic of it sitting in my driveway.
What did those seats come out of?
Quote from: turbopinto72 on July 03, 2006, 07:04:25 PM
What did those seats come out of?
They are the older style Procar Buckets by Scat. Here is the link -> http://www.procarbyscat.com/
The 1100 series are real close to a recaro look. The might work In a Pangra as a possible replacement.
The seats appear to be good quality and very comfortable. The ones I have are approx 20 years old and have held up well. I think had they been taken care of better they would still be in good shape. I will either buy another set or have someone recover them.
I had some time today so I decided to work on the car ;D I first changed out the water pump. That took about an hour. I then decided to install the drivers side sport mirror. I had a template that I cut out from one of my parts cars which made locating the remote hole easy. This took about an hour and a half. I did not install the passenger side mirror as I need the inserts. I still had some time so I decided to get my wipers working properly. I first replaced the wiper blades as the ones on the car were in sad shape. The windshield looks fairly new so I did not want to scratch it up with old blades. I then replaced the wiper motor with a spare. This cured my problem with the wipers not returning to the bottom of the windshield when turned off. I also had a spare intermittent wiper setup so I installed it too however the switch is flakey :( This took about 2 hours to install.
i thought the SVO's used an intercooler
They do but all that stuff was removed from motor before my friend bought it. The motor and tranny came with this carb and intake setup. I do not know what the motor was used for before my friend bought it. All I know it that it was rebuilt and out of a 85 SVO.
Tigger, if after you get this beast running and are still detonating try adding a water/alcohol (80/20 mixture) injection system. I ran a custom AK Miller turbo setup on my '72 2000 sedan to 12+ lbs boost with no problems. Same draw through application as yours - only had a Crane turbo grind cam and O-Ringed head the rest of the engine was bone stock.
You can build your own injection system from a stock windshield washer unit and run the feed tube to your carb with a fogger head pointed into carb throat (can get you a part number later) add a pressure sensitive switch on the intake manifold somewhere to kick in around 5-7 lbs. and wire up with fuse to ground and hot.
The extra water/alcohol will cool down the charge and keep you from detonating. Extra benefit - internals get a steam cleaning. Pulled spark plugs after 3000 miles during oil change and they came out looking like new.
Would VERY VERY strongly suggest against putting any kind of IC in between turbo and intake - you do not want a gas/air charge in that much space to get ignited during a backfire...
If you need any more info I'll be glad to pull together what I can for you. Best of luck.
you sure that's a '73? i didn't see the extra space between the bumpers and the body. looks more like a '72. does it have the large rear window?
Quote from: baflinn on September 07, 2006, 01:35:48 PM
Tigger, if after you get this beast running and are still detonating try adding a water/alcohol (80/20 mixture) injection system. I ran a custom AK Miller turbo setup on my '72 2000 sedan to 12+ lbs boost with no problems. Same draw through application as yours - only had a Crane turbo grind cam and O-Ringed head the rest of the engine was bone stock.
You can build your own injection system from a stock windshield washer unit and run the feed tube to your carb with a fogger head pointed into carb throat (can get you a part number later) add a pressure sensitive switch on the intake manifold somewhere to kick in around 5-7 lbs. and wire up with fuse to ground and hot.
The extra water/alcohol will cool down the charge and keep you from detonating. Extra benefit - internals get a steam cleaning. Pulled spark plugs after 3000 miles during oil change and they came out looking like new.
Would VERY VERY strongly suggest against putting any kind of IC in between turbo and intake - you do not want a gas/air charge in that much space to get ignited during a backfire...
If you need any more info I'll be glad to pull together what I can for you. Best of luck.
boy does that sound like an Ak Miller set up or what. I'm surprised you were running just 12 # boost though. when i worked at Ak Millers in the '70's the stuff we were putting together was at least 15 ..some higher depending on how much you wanted to risk !!!(money--parts--pistons)
Quote from: srt on September 08, 2006, 03:16:09 AM
you sure that's a '73? i didn't see the extra space between the bumpers and the body. looks more like a '72. does it have the large rear window?
Yes it is a 73. There is no longer any space between bumper and the body. The front bumper has been tucked up against the body. My friend that built this car had a 72 hatchback when he bought this car. He took the best parts off the 72 and put them on this car. Like the rest of us, he liked the look of the smooth bumpers so he swapped them over. This car came with the large window rear hatch but I do have a 71 small window hatch that I am considering installing. Not sure yet as I like the look of both. It will be some time till I get to this project still. I want to finish my crusing wagon before I get too involved in this one. I did start it yesterday and let it run for a few minutes.
Hey Tigger,
Nice score on the bumpers!!
How good are your Blue delux interior pannels?
I have a set of Near-Mint Black delux I might trade But I will NOT SELL.
From Pintony
Thanks Tony, there was a local guy that ended up with a 72 drag car in trade. I ran across him at a swapmeet. He was trying to sell the motor or the whole car. I asked him what he was going to do with the car if he sold the motor. He said part it out. I was under the impression that he did not think it was worth much without the drivetrain. I took his number and kept in touch. At one point someone was going to buy the car as is but the deal fell through. I was so happy when he called me to come get the bumpers. I went out to his place as fast as I could before he changed his mind. I bought a bunch of other misc parts off the car while I was there. After selling off what I did not need, I got the bumpers real cheap ;D
I am interested in the trade. From what I remember, my blue door panels are pretty nice but it has been a couple months since I have taken a good look at them. I will take a closer look at them and get back to you. I don't want to mislead you in any way. Do you have any early black cargo panels that are in decent shape?
Pics...
One more
Hey Tigger.
Since you are changing the interior to black, are you going to change or paint the arm rests. I have the same blue in my squire and need a driver side Arm rest. Just curios
Rob
I don't plan on dying anything. I will swap out the arm rests with some mint black ones that I have put away. I am not sure what I am going to do at the moment. If I do decide to sell them, I will let you know.
Thanks, let me know.
It has been a while since I have posted anything on this car. I am ashamed to say I have not done anything with it but collect more parts. I have had a lot of luck this year finding original parts for my black interior conversion. My major score being the 73 deluxe door panels I won on Ebay. A couple weeks ago I picked up a decent set of early black cargo panels. I had to drive 200 miles round trip but at least I have them. Those were the last big items I needed. I am down to a few odds and ends and my early black interior parts quest will be done. I snapped some pics of some of the parts while I was at my storage place today however I forgot to get the door panels. The cargo mat is faded but is nice and solid. Anyone have any luck in dying carpet?
I've never personally dyed any carpet but I had the carpeting and mats in my Continental Mark V professionally dyed and they turned out fantastic. That was about a year ago and I haven't noticed any deterioration in the color. Can't give you an actual cost on that because it was done as part of a total detailing of the interior. If you make sure you purchase carpet dye, and you brush it in as you spray, you should be okay. Good luck!
Dwayne :smile:
My 4 year old son has been bugging me to work on this car for some time now so today I decided to make him happy and move the car into the garage. I am ashamed to say I have not started the car in 2-3 years. I got a new battery for it last fall which has been on a trickle charger thru the winter. After taking off the small cover, I threw the battery in the car and tried to start it. It took a while to get some gas into the carb which was leaking like a sieve from the accelerator pump. I pulled the carb off and tightend the screws which stopped the leak. The next problem was spark. I did not have any at first. I did this once before. The Mallory 6AL is wired to the battery. The battery terminal needs to be tight in order to have spark. Once I tightened the terminal I got the car started but it ran out of gas within a minute of running. A little bit of gas from a gas can got it running again, but barely. The accelerator pump must be out on the carb as it did not want to rev up easily. I still managed to get it in the garage though. The car needs tons of work to say the least. I have been collecting parts for it for some time now so I guess now is time to get things repaired.
The first order of business will be to replace the gas tank. I have a perfect replacement waiting. Second will be to get the brake system rebuilt. The car had mushy brakes when I bought it now they are hard as a rock, I can barely press the pedal down. Third will be to rebuild the front suspension and change the springs in order to raise the car up to a resonable height.
My son and I got the rear of the car up in the air and on jack stands. We got the rear wheels off. I am surprised this car was never undercoated. Out of all the Pinto's I have had I have never seen one with such a clean undercarriage. Most are full of grease and grime. This one is just dirty.
Tomorrow I will drop the tank and start on the rear brakes.
Here are some pics of the car as it sits today.
Cool Tig,,,, nice to see it getting close,,, looks good
Thanks it is far from close but it is getting better. I have been working on it a lot lately. I finished the rear brakes, installed a new master cylinder, pounded out the dent on the side, and started the front suspension rebuild. I almost finished the passenger side this weekend. New ball joints, bushings, tie rod ends, springs etc. I will start on the drivers side this week. I just need to get the rotors turned and find some new calipers. Calipers are hard to find for the early cars.......
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Quote from: TIGGER on June 01, 2010, 01:50:13 AM
I just need to get the rotors turned and find some new calipers. Calipers are hard to find for the early cars.......
www.rockauto.com (http://www.rockauto.com) shows three loaded left calipers (reman'd - no core charge) and two unloaded right calipers (reman'd - HUGE core charge) in their system.
Mike
HAHAH GREAT!!!! Just seeing this car under that cover was sad, Im glad to see your working on it.
Quote from: Mike Modified on June 01, 2010, 11:50:35 AM
www.rockauto.com (http://www.rockauto.com) shows three loaded left calipers (reman'd - no core charge) and two unloaded right calipers (reman'd - HUGE core charge) in their system.
Mike
Thanks Mike, I ordered two left ones (one for a spare) and a few other things I needed. I am going to try and see if I can find a right one somewhere else as I do not want to deal with shipping the core back and waiting for the refund. I did that once before and it was a big PITA.
I figure I should update this post. The front end is all back together. The brakes are done and blead. I installed a wagon front sway bar. The fuel tank is back in and the car is on the ground. It is not as low as before but it should be high enough that the tires will not rub when aligned. All I need to do is to rebuild the carb again and she should be able to move under her own power again. I am sure glad all this is over 8)
i want to see smoke off those rear tires!
I finally finished rebuilding the other carb and got it on the car a couple days ago. The car runs a lot better now but is still is too lean when boosting it. I have to fix the parking brake as it is rubbing agaist the drive shaft, making a bunch of noise. Next is a good wash and installing the rear bumper.