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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Norman Bagi on April 19, 2008, 10:50:45 AM

Title: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: Norman Bagi on April 19, 2008, 10:50:45 AM
Does anyone know if a Pinto ever came with a factory installed 351.  A freind of mine is eyeing buying a Pinto owned by a little old lady (I think from Pasedena) who claims her Pinto with V8 351 was factory installed, she also claims they only made 100 of them.  Is this true, if so, it is a rare find.
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: pintoches on April 19, 2008, 11:15:05 AM
I was told PInto's never came with a V8.
It takes a lot of work to put a 351 in a pinto!
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: Cookieboystoys on April 19, 2008, 12:57:14 PM
this has been asked and discussed before...

Ford never offered a V8 in the Pinto... from the factory.
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: beegle55 on April 19, 2008, 02:17:46 PM
No. Not from the factory. Could be a dealer install but I highly doubt it, installing a 351 would take a lot of work specific to only one car and a dealer is usually more worried about dealing with his cars as a group.

   -beegle55
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: FCANON on April 19, 2008, 02:31:35 PM
Deffently not a 351 Pinto..all factory V8 pintos in this area are Boss 302's...
After a while you get use to peoples claims on this...

Have him take Pics anyways...might be fun to see it. after all the old lady was driving a hot pinto.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: dick1172762 on April 19, 2008, 04:52:23 PM
BOSS 302 PINTOS????? Now thats rare!



Quote from: FCANON on April 19, 2008, 02:31:35 PM
Deffently not a 351 Pinto..all factory V8 pintos in this area are Boss 302's...
After a while you get use to peoples claims on this...

Have him take Pics anyways...might be fun to see it. after all the old lady was driving a hot pinto.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: FCANON on April 19, 2008, 08:31:53 PM
Boss 302 Pintos aren't rare in the mid west...I hear a half dozen stories about owner and sitings a summer...most are Chevy guys or hicks...
you go check them out and most that are wives tells are just plain 302/289's...

At some point I just give up.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: beegle55 on April 19, 2008, 08:36:22 PM
The 302's weren't factory though. Only 1600 cc, 2000 cc, 2300 cc, and the V6 engine option were available from the factory.

    -beegle55
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: dick1172762 on April 19, 2008, 09:26:46 PM
I've seen two with 429/460's in them so anything is possible I guess. But a real Boss 302 is big-big-big. The heads are the problem as the block is the same size as a 289/302. With enough money and a torch you can make any thing fit.


Quote from: FCANON on April 19, 2008, 08:31:53 PM
Boss 302 Pintos aren't rare in the mid west...I hear a half dozen stories about owner and sitings a summer...most are Chevy guys or hicks...
you go check them out and most that are wives tells are just plain 302/289's...

At some point I just give up.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: Norman Bagi on April 19, 2008, 09:30:16 PM
I was scepticle myself, I have not heard of a 351 offered.  But thought I would check with you guys first just in case Rousch or someone built a bunch back in the day.  I have not seen the car as of yet, but would like too.  The first thing I will look for if I get a look at this thing, is the size of the gas tank, because the stock 12 gallon tank deffinitely would not have worked with a 351.  I've seen pintos with bigger engines though, so anything is possible, the engine compartment has more room than most full size cars of today.  If I hear or see anything, I will let you know.
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: Wittsend on April 21, 2008, 11:36:04 AM
  It is a known fact that most Pinto's came with an over head cam engine. Thus, when you ordered your Pinto (new) with the stripes on the side, you got an engine to match. That being the SOHC 427. But, being that most people bought the Pinto for economy, few ordered the stripes. Thus, yes, these are rare cars.

  The 351 version of the Pinto was the economical version of the "side stripe" package. The cost reduction being that this was a OHV engine.

  Then of course there in the Pangra. This elongated front end was needs when the inline six (200 and 250) was installed in the Pinto.

  Anyway, I hope that clears up the story for you. There is just too much mis-information floating out there about 4 cylinder Pinto's with OHV engines from England and OHC engines from Germany.  I mean, come on..., the Pinto is an American car!
Tom
Added 4-26-08 ---- I am of course only poking fun at the "form follows function" concept. Meaning if the car has stripes it HAS to have an engine to make it go faster.  If it has an extended front end it HAS to have a longer engine.  Such "Idiot logic" as that.  :-)
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: bobscat on April 21, 2008, 01:26:45 PM
 :look:  :look:  :look:  :look:  :look:

ummmmmm..........
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: phils toys on April 21, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
Hay , Last time this came up i thought the v8 was only offered in Mexico.   :fastcar:

Phils toys
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: Cookieboystoys on April 21, 2008, 03:27:36 PM
Quote from: phils toys on April 21, 2008, 02:37:34 PM
Hay , Last time this came up i thought the v8 was only offered in Mexico.   :fastcar:

Phils toys

:lol:  :lol:  :lol: I think you're right Phil, I forgot about that...  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: ADaughen on April 24, 2008, 10:10:19 AM
I saw a super rare Shelby 289ci Pinto back in '02.  It was clean.  Must have been stock. 
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: 302Pinto on April 24, 2008, 10:32:41 AM
The reason the Mexican Pintos came with a 302 was so they could get around on the mountain terrain. The 4 cylinder motors weren't strong enough.
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: earthquake on April 24, 2008, 11:16:46 AM
Nah the 302 was installed to help them cross the boarder without being caught,the 4 wasn't fast enough.
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: FCANON on April 24, 2008, 11:46:19 AM
I still wont belive in a factory V8 pinto till I see the paper work....

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: bobscat on April 24, 2008, 01:35:40 PM
+1
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: beegle55 on April 24, 2008, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: FCANON on April 24, 2008, 11:46:19 AM
I still wont belive in a factory V8 pinto till I see the paper work....

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
^ ^ Dido. I want to see some official work about V8 Pinto's.

    -beegle55
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: gordie on May 05, 2008, 09:00:10 PM
I was around when the Pintos were new and owned a lot of them as I had a used car lot and have had over 10,000 cars in my day.  The factory never modified the Pintos by putting big engines in them including in Mexico.  Maybe some dealers did but I never heard of it.  Get rid of that myth that they did as no one will ever be able to prove it as it just never happened.
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: beegle55 on May 05, 2008, 09:11:15 PM
I second gordie. I'm 125% certain no Pinto left the factory with a V8. Dealer install MAYBE its a long-shot but MAYBE. There sure are alot of V8 conversions done by private owners of Pinto's, some of which probably look very very original and professionally done.

     -beegle55
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: dholvrsn on May 05, 2008, 09:40:42 PM
Is it possible that Ford did a proof-of-concept. evaluation, or even possible production prototype?

DGH
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: gordie on May 05, 2008, 10:47:34 PM
The Pinto always was an economy car and Ford constantly bragged about the miles per gallon that you could get with them.  Look at the sales brochures and magazine ads and you can see the idea. Why they messed around with the V6 I will never know as it ruined the economy theme and they never were popular and mechanics hated them.  If you wanted to go a little faster you could step up to a Maverick or Mustang for not much more money.  Ford never even thought about a bigger engine for the Pinto for that reason.
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: Farmboy on May 06, 2008, 09:02:01 AM
  I herd in Brazil Pintos came stock with a 460 ;D
Title: Re: 351 factory Pinto?
Post by: Pintony on May 06, 2008, 11:20:02 PM
Maybe the Pinto came with a factory 8???
4 banger in front and another in the hatch when the cam lobes wore off in
1974-5???? ;D ;D ;D