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Title: 2.3 engines
Post by: phils toys on April 05, 2008, 08:08:01 PM
I am  in need of a different engine for Project Cat  but  i need to know what will interchange. basically i need the block with the pistons as they are froze in place. I guess  that is what happens when it set  with a blow head gasket for 10  years.
I have considered the86/87 turbo swap  but  would  still need to find one as well. any help is greatly appreciated
phils toys
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: crazyhorse on April 05, 2008, 08:23:54 PM
I'd hazard a guess that the later blocks would be the same. I dunno about the Ranger 2.5's but I'd say they are too.

If you can find one, Ford made 2.3 industrial motors. These are all cast iron, like the earliest 2.3's
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: dick1172762 on April 05, 2008, 08:43:16 PM
If it has a rear sump oil pan, the dip stick is in the wrong place to use a Pinto oil pan. And I thought all 2.3 engines in Pintos and Mustangs were cast iron.
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: crazyhorse on April 05, 2008, 09:08:11 PM
The blocks are, but the later heads are aluminum.
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: Pintony on April 05, 2008, 09:38:14 PM
Quote from: crazyhorse on April 05, 2008, 09:08:11 PM
The blocks are, but the later heads are aluminum.

I do not think I ever saw a 2.3 with an aluminum head???
Unless I was drooling over Brad's T2.3 in his green 72!!!
Maybe that funny engine that was driveing by the WRONG wheels in the Tempo??? CVH???
From Pintony
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: dick1172762 on April 05, 2008, 10:12:44 PM
Only if its got ESSLINGER wrote on it.



Quote from: crazyhorse on April 05, 2008, 09:08:11 PM
The blocks are, but the later heads are aluminum.
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 06, 2008, 01:27:28 AM
Quote from: dick1172762 on April 05, 2008, 08:43:16 PM
If it has a rear sump oil pan, the dip stick is in the wrong place to use a Pinto oil pan...

Every 2.3T that I ever owned had two dipstick locations in the block so mounting the Pinto oil pan was easy.



Quote from: crazyhorse on April 05, 2008, 09:08:11 PM
The blocks are, but the later heads are aluminum.

??


Bill
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: oldkayaker on April 06, 2008, 06:52:31 AM
The following Racer Walsh link is a helpful starting reference for Lima 2.3L engine heritage.   http://static.zoovy.com/merchant/racerwalsh/Back_2_Basics_Sheet.doc

Besides Esslinger, Rapido makes(made) a replacement aluminum head.  There may be others.   http://www.rapidogroup.com/newprod.htm#cylinderhead

For a Pinto replacement block, look for a 2.3 with a distributor (up to about 89 or 90).  The 80's block have the front dip stick hole drilled and the fuel pump hole is machined out (both capped).  The early 90's dual plug engine blocks could be modified to work (drill dip stick hole and machine out the fuel pump hole) but they have some internal differences.  The later engine blocks with no distributor hole and integral oil pump (including the 2.5) will not bolt in as the motor mount bosses are different.
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: phils toys on April 06, 2008, 11:31:00 AM
Thanks for the info so far it gives me a lot to work with as i do have the compleat engine but the pistons are froze. I have the head off andhave been soaking them with oil and using a long breaker bar  trying to get them to move  but with no luck. Also the  engine has at least 166,000 miles and i am  not sure it is worth all the trouble in the end  to free the pistons up.
just as a summery  if i can find a 2.3 block  from 75-89  " i should be OK"  sense i have  the other  replacement parts.
Phils toys
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: phils toys on April 19, 2008, 09:34:59 PM
Update I think i found a  motor from an 88 ranger  and the price is right.but owner is not sure if is a 2.0 or 2.3    How  would i be able to  tell the differance?
Phils toys
Title: Re: 2.3 engines
Post by: r4pinto on April 19, 2008, 09:41:11 PM
In 88 the only carb'd engine was the 2.0. If it's got Fuel Injection then it's the 2.3. I got this right off Partsamerica.com