I have a 2.0 Ford Pinto motor I am dealing with. It seems to have jumped time and I can not get the camshaft lined back up. Anybody have any suggestions on how to do this?
:welcome: MissMarie88,
The 2.0 is a simple engine.
Do you have the timming cover off yet?
The timming dot is on the head and you have to look through the hole in the cam gear to see it the hole should be at 6:00.
The crank should be at TDC and the dist. rotor should point to the #1 plug wire.
From Pintony
Pintony,
A possible correction, Both valves on cylinder #1 should be closed on the compression stroke at TDC, the distributor rotor should be pointing at plug wire #1 on the cap, and the crank mark for TDC should be aligned. IF the car has the original metal cam sprocket backing plate with pointer, it should point straight up.
Now I just have to ask , What is a Timming cover ? Tim Ming design? I always default to English , but my typing skills can be challenged too :lol:
Pintosopher
Well I'm not going to lie you kinda lost me with your correction on what he said. It seems to be running far better now though from the advice he did give me. It is starting and everything at least. The only problem now is the fact that when ever you are turning the key to start it it makes almost a knocking noise.
Thanks For The Help Guys
I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but do you by any chance know the firing order? Is it even relevent because I have been told by three different people three different firing orders...
Quote from: MissMarie88 on April 01, 2008, 09:57:22 AM
I know this is going to sound like a stupid question but do you by any chance know the firing order? Is it even relevent because I have been told by three different people three different firing orders...
The fire order for the 2.0 is 1.3.4.2.
From Pintony
Miss Marie 88,
If you wish to make absolutely sure of the timing belt and marks, you must establish that the Engine #1 cylinder is on the Compression stroke. This can be done one of two ways, the easiest being viewing the movement of the valves through the spark plug hole on cylinder #1. You must see the intake valve closing as you turn the engine over by hand in the normal direction of rotation. Then with the distributor cap removed, the rotor should be moving towards the location of the plug wire #1 in the cap. As the crankshaft pulley mark for TDC (0 for 2.0L & 2.3) approaches, the distributor rotor should be pointing at the #1 location on the cap.
NOW A CORRECTION on my previous statement. The pointer on the Stock Camshaft sprocket will be underneath the Camshaft sprocket bolt at 6 O' clock with the pointer aiming at the sprocket bolt and pointing straight up.
If ALL of these marks line up at the same time with the belt adjustment snug, then your timing marks are correct, and you can accurately set the Ignition timing with a timing light.
Again I apologize for the FAUX PAUX and hope this clarifies the procedure.
To PINTONY , I'll have to eat an organic Rice Cake and Chant " I'll not think VW again "
Humbly Human ,
Pintosopher
Hello Pintosopher,
You are over-complicating your answer.
If the belt is off and the crank pointer is at tdc.
and the cam pointer is pointing at the dot or "Straight up" and your dist. rotor is pointing at #1 plug then everything is correct.
Your statement of "compression stroke" is un-nessissary.
From Pintony
Okay. Thank you for the clarification. Next question. The knocking noise when i am turning over the key and then keeps doing it for just a couple of seconds after words.
Pintony, I am hoping that it is not the worst case scenerio but are there any other possibilities. I am not sure I fully understood what you meant in your last message.
Thank You Once Again,
Marie
Well the last personal message that is. About too much 'advance'?
Quote from: MissMarie88 on April 01, 2008, 10:30:55 AM
Well the last personal message that is. About too much 'advance'?
Hello MissMarie88,
Maybe you can give me some background on your Pinto?
How long has it been sitting? is it a daily driver? how many miles are on it?
Has the engine ever been rebuilt?
If the noise goes away after starting then it is not a blown head gasket.
Auto or 4spd trans?
From Pintony
I just got it so I don't know how long it has been sitting for. Previous owner said no rebuild and it is a 4spd
Quote from: MissMarie88 on April 01, 2008, 10:44:04 AM
I just got it so I don't know how long it has been sitting for. Previous owner said no rebuild and it is a 4spd
How many miles?
Has your Pinto been taken care of or abused?
What part of the country are you in?
From Pintony
i dont know how many miles. there is no odometer...
Miss Marie ,
Pintony is correct in his reponse about the complexity of my explanation, I did not know if your car had an aftermarket cam sprocket, hence the complexity of my dialogue. If it's stock , then his advice is easiest to follow.
I'll leave you to the capable , forthright , zen pintomasters...
Pintosopher
Pintosopher,
I do appreciate your help and everything very much none the less.
Have A Good Day,
Marie
Would anyone perhaps have any idea what would cause the temperature gauge to go out?
Quote from: MissMarie88 on April 01, 2008, 07:55:29 PM
Would anyone perhaps have any idea what would cause the temperature gauge to go out?
Hello MissMarie88,
Is it possible that your Pinto engine is in a dune buggy?
From Pintony
What would make you ask something like that and even if that were the case what would that matter? :lol:
Hello MissMarie88,
Is it possible that your Pinto engine is in a dune buggy?
From Pintony
Quote from: MissMarie88 on April 02, 2008, 09:24:20 AM
What would make you ask something like that and even if that were the case what would that matter? :lol:
Just curoius? The details are important when trying to diagnose problems.
Very few Pintos came with temp. guage.
And you stated that your car did not have a speedo or at least a odometer.
Anyway. to answer your question.
If the Temp guage is electrical then the sender may have gone bad or the guage my have a short??
From Pintony
Or it has a bad ground wire.
Well perhaps it is in a dune buggy that does not lessen the fact that I like the Pinto. My dad used to have one so when I saw a dune buggy with that particular type of motor in it I jumped all over it. I was afraid you would judge me in a negative way and then not help me if you knew I don't have an actaul ford pinto car...I really hope that is not the case though because I have really come to liking talking to you and the other people on this site. You just about all are quite friendly...
Quote from: Pintony on April 02, 2008, 09:31:17 AM
Hello MissMarie88,
Is it possible that your Pinto engine is in a dune buggy?
From Pintony
Just curoius? The details are important when trying to diagnose problems.
Very few Pintos came with temp. guage.
And you stated that your car did not have a speedo or at least a odometer.
Anyway. to answer your question.
If the Temp guage is electrical then the sender may have gone bad or the guage my have a short??
From Pintony
Pinto Grand PooBAH or Pinto Grand Psychic?
Quote from: pintosopher on April 01, 2008, 12:46:46 PM
Miss Marie ,
Pintony is correct in his reponse about the complexity of my explanation, I did not know if your car had an aftermarket cam sprocket, hence the complexity of my dialogue. If it's stock , then his advice is easiest to follow.
I'll leave you to the capable , forthright , zen pintomasters...
Pintosopher
Hello Pintosopher,
Your input is most welcome.
Two minds are better than one.
I think WE are both correct!!!
From Pintony
Quote from: MissMarie88 on April 02, 2008, 01:08:18 PM
Well perhaps it is in a dune buggy that does not lessen the fact that I like the Pinto. My dad used to have one so when I saw a dune buggy with that particular type of motor in it I jumped all over it. I was afraid you would judge me in a negative way and then not help me if you knew I don't have an actaul ford pinto car...I really hope that is not the case though because I have really come to liking talking to you and the other people on this site. You just about all are quite friendly...
Hello MissMarie88,
I just like the German 2.0! I do not care what it is in???
From Pintony
Quote from: Pintony on April 02, 2008, 09:31:17 AM
Hello MissMarie88,
Is it possible that your Pinto engine is in a dune buggy?
From Pintony
Just curoius? The details are important when trying to diagnose problems.
Very few Pintos came with temp. guage.
And you stated that your car did not have a speedo or at least a odometer.
Anyway. to answer your question.
If the Temp guage is electrical then the sender may have gone bad or the guage my have a short??
From Pintony
wow... the details you pick up on sometimes...
you really are the Pinto Grand PooBAH or as lencost said... should it be the Pinto Grand Psychic?
Well it is running great now so thank all of you so much for your help. I really appreciate it!!
Quote from: MissMarie88 on April 03, 2008, 09:50:21 PM
Well it is running great now so thank all of you so much for your help. I really appreciate it!!
Hello MissMarie88,
Did you find out what was knocking?
Post a photo of your ride if you can....
From Pintony
it had something to do witht he starter. and as soon as i get some decent pics i will...