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Shiny is Good! => Your Pintos/Bobcats & Racers => Topic started by: Ponygal on March 15, 2008, 08:50:02 AM

Title: Gladys: The '77 that could…
Post by: Ponygal on March 15, 2008, 08:50:02 AM
Well, my original plan was to move, do the body on the car, then get it certified. I've since decided to get it on the road, crush the fiancée's Lincoln, move, then do the bodywork :D (my truck will replace the Lincoln until something cooler comes along)

Spent almost $200 on parts the other night, plugs, wires, cap & rotor, belts (bye bye squeal), exhaust and wipers. Still need a carb rebuild kit and air filter. I also have to have a close look at my seat belts, not sure if I'm just used to the newer cars, but mine don't lock well. I can yank them as fast as I possibly can and they won't lock. Maybe a stiff mechanism?

I'm also on the lookout for a passenger side marker light socket, mine's pooched and not sure where I might be able to get one?
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: 77turbopinto on March 15, 2008, 05:08:06 PM
If you have any doubt about the seat belts don't drive the car.

I have never been able to do a quick "snap" and have them lock unless the belts are pulled out like when in use. Also, I test mine with a stomp on the brakes.


Bill
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on March 15, 2008, 05:15:02 PM
I don't think there is anything really wrong with them, but I like to see these things for myself. I was able to get them to lock a couple times, but it took some lightening fast yanks to get them to work. I've got a huge parking lot that I can do the brake test like you mentioned. I'm used to my Mazda's sensitive locks I guess.

Thanks!

Got a new steering wheel today as well. 3-spoke chrome with circles cut out. Can't wait to install it, my original wheel is so darn big it rubs my legs when I get out :S
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: dga57 on March 15, 2008, 09:25:30 PM
Ponygal :wow:?  You're going to crush a Lincoln????  What's wrong with it?  I have three and love them equally with my Pinto!!!  That's some classy American steel you're thinking about scrapping!
Dwayne :smile:
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: dave1987 on March 16, 2008, 03:41:24 AM
Did you get the steering wheel that the Mustang IIs, Cruising Wagons and Sport Pintos had? If so, it really isn't any smaller than the Pinto wheel. I just got one about a month ago and it's nearly the exact same size.
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: High_Horse on March 16, 2008, 11:48:25 AM
I have never been able to get my belts to lock either when I pulled them but when I removed them the locking mechanism worked fine....are these mechanisms designed to lock when there is a sudden decrease in forward velocity....like sudden braking or impact???  Glad you brought it up PonyGal.


                                                                                       High_Horse
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on March 16, 2008, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: dave1987 on March 16, 2008, 03:41:24 AM
Did you get the steering wheel that the Mustang IIs, Cruising Wagons and Sport Pintos had? If so, it really isn't any smaller than the Pinto wheel. I just got one about a month ago and it's nearly the exact same size.

Naw, this is an aftermarket wheel.
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on March 16, 2008, 05:33:50 PM
Quote from: dga57 on March 15, 2008, 09:25:30 PM
Ponygal :wow:?  You're going to crush a Lincoln????  What's wrong with it?  I have three and love them equally with my Pinto!!!  That's some classy American steel you're thinking about scrapping!
Dwayne :smile:

It's an '88 Town Car, all white... it was owned by a relative who passed away. It was more of a temporary replacement as it only cost $200. I personally have never felt comfortable with the car, we smashed into a rock cut with it so the front fender is toast, as well as the back taillight valance. We currently own 5 cars, and are moving to a new home that only has enough room for 3 max, so we have to downsize anyways. No one will pay anything for a massive gas guzzler when gas prices are $1.15/litre, so the best we can do is crush her :)
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on March 16, 2008, 09:09:36 PM
An update:

Got the exhaust done tonight, the Supertrapp sounds great, although there seems to be a bit of hollow resonance happening towards the front, maybe the cat is a little on the hollow side :S

New belts replaced, thankfully the squeaking has now ceased, and has been replaced by the lovely whirrr of new rubber flying through pulleys.

One small nagging thing I've been meaning to do is also done; finally got the negative terminal connector boot back on. Now have a matched set, and they look perty.

We took her for a spin around the parking lot out front and with both of us strapped in, I jammed on the brakes and SUCCESS! perfectly locked seatbelts! High_Horse, I think your forward inertia theory is correct. We tried a few times, switched drivers and it worked perfectly every time. I guess the new ones are just more sensitive to everything and lock even on small tugs. The parking lot up here is rough with ice, and I felt the belt locking slightly even on the bumps so I feel much better about it, thanks for the suggestion.

Compared the new wheel with the old, and there will be a definite decrease in diameter compared to the old one. Can't wait to get it in, just have to get an adaptor kit.

Will update with new pics soon!
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: dga57 on March 17, 2008, 08:24:05 PM
My apologies, Ponygal... at least your explanation for scrapping the Lincoln make sense.  I just had visions (nightmares) of a slab-side suicide door Continental meeting its death!  It's true, there's not a lot of demand for late eighties Lincolns at the moment.  If, however, you would be interested in parting it out, there are owners on several Lincoln sites that would love to snap up some "new parts".  My two collectable Lincolns are both 70's era, which is a whole different animal from yours, so not much from it would work on either of mine; and my third one is a 2007 model.
Thanks for putting my mind at ease regarding the demise of any truly classic Lincolns.
Dwayne :smile:
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on March 17, 2008, 09:06:31 PM
Quote from: dga57 on March 17, 2008, 08:24:05 PM
Thanks for putting my mind at ease regarding the demise of any truly classic Lincolns.
Dwayne :smile:

I can assure you that if this car was a 70's era car, you would need to pry the wheel from my fiancée's dead cold fingers, as he loves those ones. Nice to meet another who has the same obsession for land yachts ;) Any chance you might share a pic of yours?
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: dga57 on March 19, 2008, 12:44:02 AM
Hi Ponygal!
I would love to send you a picture but I am the world's worst with computers!  I've been trying for two months to post photos of the new quarter panels I bought from Black Car Parts for my Pinto ::).  I even had someone offer to resize them for me if I'd email them to him and I can't even seem to get that to work :embarassed:!  Tell you what, though... if you'll PM me a mailing address, I'll mail you actual photos of both my vintage Lincolns.  One is a '79 Collector's Series sedan in Midnight Blue Metallic, and the other is a '79 Mark V in white with the Wedgewood Luxury Group (Wedgewood Blue landau top, bodyside mouldings, pinstripes, and velour interior).  Both have been completely restored and have less than 100,000 original miles... not bad for 29-year-old vehicles!
Dwayne :smile:
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: crazyhorse on March 19, 2008, 11:16:04 AM
High Horse was dead on with the inertia reels in the seatbelts. There's a pendulum in the reel, that when you stop hard swings forward, catching in the star wheel on the reel.

I had to remove my belts in my '74 to fix the reels. There were "love beads" caught up in both sides :) So, yes my car was truly a survivor of the '70's.  :lol:
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: High_Horse on March 19, 2008, 05:20:23 PM
PonyGal and CrazyHorse,
                       Cool....Then they are good....all i need is some gray belt.

                                                        Inertia rings

                                                                                 High_Horse
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on March 19, 2008, 09:48:32 PM
Quote from: crazyhorse on March 19, 2008, 11:16:04 AMThere were "love beads" caught up in both sides :) So, yes my car was truly a survivor of the '70's.  :lol:

LOL! too funny!!



Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on March 21, 2008, 07:46:42 PM
Did the tune-up today, wires, plugs, cap & rotor, oil change... runs much smoother now, just needs some fresh gas, carb kit and air & fuel filters. *Also, we were able to fix the marker light socket issue by "borrowing" an interior trunk light socket from the Lincoln. 11 years on and they are still the same, right down to the shade of brown used on the wiring. Amazing.

Here's a couple shots from my cell phone, one of the Supertrapp in place and the other of the fantastic sticker I got from PCCA :D
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/2-2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/2-1.jpg)

Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: beegle55 on March 21, 2008, 07:58:03 PM
Nice looking work. My '78 was pretty much that same car before it began its racing life. Enjoy your car! Keep up the joy of Pinto-ing.

     -beegle55
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: High_Horse on March 22, 2008, 07:29:41 AM
Your doing really good PonyGal........ ;)


                                                                                High_Horse
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on April 04, 2008, 09:42:12 PM
A few more things to add...

Installed the new Grant steering wheel, went together great EXCEPT for the long-drawn out and totally unnecessary battle to get the horn cap on and still have it functional. Problem was solved by trimming the steering column shaft down a few mm's and also shaving another few from the cap itself. Thanks to my brother for  fixing both of those little issues for me :D Horn works, although somewhat sketchy.. I'll see if more messing around can get it nice and sensitive before certification.

Also got the lovely sport mirror on from S&H, the baby blue stands out on my chocolate pudding coloured sedan LOL I have plans to paint this along with the grill a nice satin black. I am attaching a Photoshop butcher-job of my proposed paint scheme for the car. Body colour will be navy metallic, and the black will be satin. I also will be reinstalling the side mouldings and painting the inserts black to match the rest. I'd love a set of rims like the ones I've got pictured here as well.. Hmm maybe next year!!

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/paint.jpg)
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on April 04, 2008, 09:53:16 PM
A better shot of the Supertrapp:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/supertrapp.jpg)

Mirror:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/mirror.jpg)

Old wheel... anyone looking for one???

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/wheel.jpg)

Took a break from the cursing & swearing to take a shot of the new wheel:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/new_wheel.jpg)
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Pintony on April 05, 2008, 01:23:09 AM
Hello Ponygal,
A WORD OF CAUTION!!!
Check the clearance between the black dome shaped piece and the brown part of your collum If these parts touch there will be sparks...
Unless the one I have on the Purple Pinto is defective?????
I was driving and there were sparks between them and it burned out my turn signal harness.
From Pintony
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 05, 2008, 07:32:41 AM
I put a Grant wheel on my K-car (convertible). What a PITA.

Good point Tony.



Bill
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on April 06, 2008, 05:55:56 PM
Quote from: Pintony on April 05, 2008, 01:23:09 AM
Hello Ponygal,
A WORD OF CAUTION!!!
Check the clearance between the black dome shaped piece and the brown part of your collum If these parts touch there will be sparks...
Unless the one I have on the Purple Pinto is defective?????
I was driving and there were sparks between them and it burned out my turn signal harness.
From Pintony

There's at least a pinky's width of clearance there, although hard to see in the pic... If there were sparks between them, wouldn't that mean your entire wheel is live? yikes
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: douglasskemp on April 09, 2008, 07:40:08 PM
Keep the old wheel just in case.  I am seriously NOT impressed with the three spoke grant wheels, specifically the horn button.  We installed one on my mom's 67 Mustang, only to have the horn short out.  The holes the horn wires go thru are metal with no chafing protection.  The car was having problems with the power assist (typical for those years) and due to added strain her wheel rotated on the column in relation to the mounting piece ever so slightly, but just enough to cut through the wire's insulation.  Luckily we caught it and didn't burn the car to the ground.  Needless to say, that wheel was replaced with an original 1967 FOMOCO product.
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on April 18, 2008, 05:30:10 PM
Carb rebuild was a success, new gas definitely helped.

Painted the grill and mirror satin black (yeah, it's $10 job hahah)

A few more things to look over on the car, and hopefully we can make an appointment for certification next week!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/2-1-1.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/2-3.jpg)

Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: FCANON on April 18, 2008, 08:44:17 PM
Lookin good... I hope you success with your certification.

FrankBoss

www.PintoWorks.com
www.FrankBoss.com
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on April 26, 2008, 10:07:49 PM
Another day, another few dollars...

A new alternator has now been installed, after the old one was discovered to be on the way out... my horn is now working consistently and with just the gentle press of a palm... Also bought some flex hoses for the brakes, and new upper ball joints for both sides.

We've also decided to get the exhaust redone as a pinhole has been discovered somewhere just behind the cat. No biggie though, appointment should be within the next week.

I took some time last week and painstakingly chiseled off the sun-scorched rain gutter trim. I've decided to forgo putting the darn stuff back on as there is plenty of chrome/aluminum trim on my "deluxe-exterior-packaged" sedan already, and I can only imagine the insanity that will ensue working the new stuff onto the rain gutter itself.

I'm DYING to take a grinder and sander to this car...

In other news, my plates are in, and here is your first look at one mounted to the front of the car. Yeah, it's cheesy, but I still laugh every time I see them :P

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/Madmouse8/2-2-1.jpg)

At it again tomorrow... with any luck we'll be getting the exhaust done + certified next week!!!
Title: Re: A tiny change of plans…
Post by: Ponygal on April 26, 2008, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: douglasskemp on April 09, 2008, 07:40:08 PM
Keep the old wheel just in case.  I am seriously NOT impressed with the three spoke grant wheels, specifically the horn button.  We installed one on my mom's 67 Mustang, only to have the horn short out.  The holes the horn wires go thru are metal with no chafing protection.  The car was having problems with the power assist (typical for those years) and due to added strain her wheel rotated on the column in relation to the mounting piece ever so slightly, but just enough to cut through the wire's insulation.  Luckily we caught it and didn't burn the car to the ground.  Needless to say, that wheel was replaced with an original 1967 FOMOCO product.

I will absolutely look into that!! (and remember that advice for my '66 Mustang as well, although I think I'll be replacing the wheel with a fomoco product anyways)