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Shiny is Good! => Your Project => Topic started by: zolorg on September 23, 2007, 10:06:17 AM

Title: hints fo starter removal
Post by: zolorg on September 23, 2007, 10:06:17 AM
Restoring a 78 Pinto need to replace or rebuild the starter are there any tricks to removing the starter the clearance looks very tight. starter is original but is locked-up.  Not sure weather to rebuild or replace?  Can't really complain after car set for 20 yrs in a field.
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: Pintony on September 23, 2007, 11:20:02 AM
 :welcome: zolorg,
On the 78 Pinto, drop the rack and pinion a bit by removing the 2-3 BIG bolts from the rac-pinion slide the bolts back a bit and the rac will lower to allow access room for the starter to be removed.
This does not hurt the alignment as the rack will just re-bolt in the same position.
DO NOT REMOVE THE TIE-RODS...
\From Pintony
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: WagonNut on September 23, 2007, 05:53:35 PM
What Pintony said works. But before I knew that tip, I removed the motor mount bolt and jacked the motor up a little on the starter side, This helps greatly to  get the starter out.
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: zolorg on September 23, 2007, 06:14:50 PM
Thanks for the tips, that makes it easier than just guessing what the the best method of removal is.
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: turbowagonman on September 23, 2007, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: WagonNut on September 23, 2007, 05:53:35 PM
What Pintony said works. But before I knew that tip, I removed the motor mount bolt and jacked the motor up a little on the starter side, This helps greatly to  get the starter out.

I did the same exact thing!!!!
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: Pintony on September 24, 2007, 02:42:49 AM
Quote from: WagonNut on September 23, 2007, 05:53:35 PM
What Pintony said works. But before I knew that tip, I removed the motor mount bolt and jacked the motor up a little on the starter side, This helps greatly to  get the starter out.

Jacking the engine is the easyer way on the early Pinto...
IF U do not know the "TRICK"... of turning the starter backwards B4 removal.
From Pintony
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: zolorg on September 29, 2007, 09:23:01 PM
Pulled the steering rack worked great. 
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: High_Horse on October 02, 2007, 05:37:09 PM
Let me just add a little tip here if I may....I personally never trust the amount of lubrication that is put into a remanufactured or rebuilt starter. When I bring home a starter from the parts store I take it apart and do two things or maybe three. First I see to it that the bearings have enough grease in them to squish out just a little bit when assembled. I also make sure the bendix helical spline is well greased. Then when the body is back together I check that the engagement contact will not make till the bendix it just 1/8 of an inch from being fully extended. Then I make sure that the gaskets are placed just right as so water won't  get into the starter.

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Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: pintoguy76 on October 02, 2007, 05:39:40 PM
Quote from: WagonNut on September 23, 2007, 05:53:35 PM
What Pintony said works. But before I knew that tip, I removed the motor mount bolt and jacked the motor up a little on the starter side, This helps greatly to  get the starter out.

That is what i do every time.
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: zolorg on October 03, 2007, 10:36:43 PM
Thanks for the tip, actually replaced with a starter with a factory original from, a mustang II my father-in-law had pulled from a parts car that he had.   We did check the lubrication, and brushes all were amazingly good, hardest part as keeping the starter still to get the bolts started.
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: High_Horse on October 07, 2007, 09:04:07 AM
I have the same problem. My hands shake too, in anticipation of getting the job done right and taking that baby for a spin. Ya!!!

                                                                                       High_Horse
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: hellfirejim on October 13, 2007, 07:28:47 PM
Quote from: Pintony on September 24, 2007, 02:42:49 AM
Jacking the engine is the easyer way on the early Pinto...
IF U do not know the "TRICK"... of turning the starter backwards B4 removal.
From Pintony

it looks like the starter is coming out of my 75.  So i gather from this the best way is to take out the motor mount bolt and jack up the motor?  I won't have any exhaust in the way so does all this still matter or am I dommed???
jim
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: Pintony on October 13, 2007, 08:24:36 PM
Hello Jim,
If your head pipe is off the starter removal should go easy...
From Pintony
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: hellfirejim on October 15, 2007, 08:30:50 AM
I will let you know.  As of know I have the car up on jackstands but it is raining and since I have to work in a real air condition garage It is on hold until the weather breaks.....

jim
Title: Re: hints fo starter removal
Post by: hellfirejim on October 20, 2007, 06:13:44 PM
All right :lol:  I removed the header and unbolted the starter and it slipped right out.  No issues.  I think it was removing the  header, sure beats messing with the steering....

jim