Pinto Car Club of America

Does anyone have any information on Group II Pinto's?  My friend had one a few years ago.  Instead of it having Pinto emblems on the fenders, there was a rectangular emblem which said Group II.  The car had a lot of nice parts like 15" centerline wheels and Pro-car racing buckets but the body was rusty.  He ended up buying the 73, which I currently own, and tranfering all the good parts to it since the body was in nicer shape.  I still have some of the Group II parts on my 73.  Just curious if someone could shed some light on them?

 This sounds like someone had modified the car and stuck on the emblem's to identify his car. I dont believe Ford ever had this option and I have not ever heard of a "dealer prepped" option like this. I have, however , seen cars that have had different emblems put on them like the 2.3 and turbo off mustangs and etc. Could be that this was the case.

I don't think so.  Here are some pictures of a full length Pinto console I picked up a week ago at a swapmeet.  It has the same Group II emblem that was on the my friends car.  THe car was gold with a black racing stripe, simular to the Starsky & Hutch car.  That is all I know.  I was hoping someone else would chime in.

Here is the console as a whole.

Well, All I have to say is. I dont think that is a factory Pinto. Some dealers were known to " spice up" some of their cars buy adding " non dealer options". That is probably what that is. Also, that clock  is not a "Pinto" clock, looks lkie it came out of an LTD or the likes.

Hi Guy's,

I think this Group II Pinto (since it was black W/ gold striping)  was a special Pittsburgh dealer prepped car.  I seem to recall one for sale on ebay a couple months ago.  ???  Can anyone else shed some light on this?

Bill in WV

I realize this is an aftermarket console and not an original Ford part.  This is the second time I have seen these emblems on a Pinto part so some one must have done some sort of kit?

My friends car was gold with a black stripe.  It appeard to be an Oregon car from the early 70's as the Oregon license plates were from that era.  The history of the car was unknown.  His childhood friend's older brother bought the car from somewhere in the early 80's.  The 3 sold the car to each other thru the years till about 97 when it was vadalized.  Some kids busted all the windows and jumped on the roof and hood damaging the whole body.  My friend's friend sold the car to a racer who was going to use it for parts.  Luckly almost all the good parts were removed by my friend prior to him selling him back the car.  

I recently purchased Super Stock magazine off Ebay dated July 71.  It has some pictures of stage II Pinto's.  It also has stage I and III.  They were manufactured in a dealership called Norris Ford Inc. of Dundalk, Baltimore, Maryland.  Maybe if you contact them........they might be able to tell you if a Stage II Pinto is the same as a Type II Pinto ??  

  Henry

Cool, is there any way I could borrow that mag & create a pdf of it on this site for everyone to read?

Here's the front cover

I'd really like to read that magazine, any chance you could get it online?

Henry sent that mag to me to get it online, go to the bricc-a-brac section & look for Henry's name... you can read the entire article online.

I won this flyer off Ebay this past weekend.  The company that made the kit was called Autosport Products Inc.  The kit consisted of the sport stripe, deep dish wheels, sport muffler, hood pins, fender badges, center console, leather wheel cover, walnut shift knob, and dash plaque.  Sounds like it could have been dealer installed or bought over the counter.  Interesting reading though....

I hope that e mail I sent you made you buy it. How much was it?
Henry

It was $40 and some change with shipping.  Too much but I had to have it.  I am sure you know how that goes ;D

Thanks again Henry...

Any possibility of getting a color copy of it? If so, how much would you want for it?

I've got no way of making a color copy, sorry.  I would be happy to send you a normal copy?  Let me know if that will do.

I can post it here on FordPinto.com if you want for eveyone to see, I will need to borrow the material & scan it to do so however...

Pintony, here is the thread I started on this.  Just curious if you know anything about these and if you know were I can find some of these parts.  I would really like to find a set of emblems.  Wayne, my friend who owned the car, has misplaced them.  79 panel, I have a color scanner / printer now.  Send me your address and I can send you a color copy.

Tigger,

If you're willing, I can scan the original & put it on line for everyone to see.  Just need to borrow the flier for a week. You can ask around, several have done this with me & I have never lost or damaged anyone's article,

You call...

Quote from: Pintony on October 08, 2005, 07:45:34 AM
Hello TIGGER,
Almost everything that was posted in this subject line can be found in old magazines.
Not just Car magazines. Playboy and Field & Stream Advertised the Ford Pinto.
Do you have an Honest John's Catilog?
This company was a bit like J.C Whitney back in the day.
The console you show in your photos could be purchased through Honest John's.
Remember that in 1971 Ford sold nearly 1/2 million Pintos.
The Pinto was 1995.00 base price and Many dealerships capitolized on that fact.
With stripe and creature comfort items + go fast goodies
Many aftermarket companys jumped into the production of parts.
Do you have an Ieco catilog?
I'm pretty sure that is where you can find the Group II emblems.
From Pintony

Thanks for the info Pintony.  I do not have either catalog.  Is either company still in business?  Didn't Ieco sell VW parts?

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on October 08, 2005, 11:42:07 AM
Tigger,

If you're willing, I can scan the original & put it on line for everyone to see.  Just need to borrow the flier for a week. You can ask around, several have done this with me & I have never lost or damaged anyone's article,

You call...

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on October 08, 2005, 11:42:07 AM
Tigger,

If you're willing, I can scan the original & put it on line for everyone to see.  Just need to borrow the flier for a week. You can ask around, several have done this with me & I have never lost or damaged anyone's article,

You call...

Sorry Scott, I must have missed your original request to post this catalog.  I will send it to you....  Do I send it to the same address I sent the windshield gasket?

TTT  ;D  There is a Group II Pinto on Ebay this week.  I wish it was closer :-\  Here is the link

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Ford-pinto-GROUP-II-2-ford-pinto_W0QQitemZ300215595268QQcmdZViewItem

The rear bumper with the extra hole in it for muffler cooling. That was a rare option only offered for high dollar.  ;D

Quote from: Pintony on April 13, 2008, 07:57:56 AM
Hey Tigger,
I saw that!
BUT the stable is FULL!!!
I really do not see much of anything that makes it special???
From Pintony

You are right, it is just a kit that Autosport Product put together for the Pinto.  It is interesting to me because I have some of the parts from a car that had the kit. 

I do like the look of that console. A shame I can't find one like that. I did notice that the valve cover & timing cover are the nicest looking pieces on the whole car. The guy painted those parts but left the ugly old air cleaner housing.

Group II was a promo by the dealers. I bought my 72 new in Dallas and it came with Shelby slots and a Sperco stripe down the side. The Group II name is the orignal name of the under2 liters trans-am class in SCCA. Group I was the pony cars and Group II was the under 2.0 (later 2.5) liter class.

Did your car come with the emblems? 

Yes! And no, I don't still have them! They were stick ons and went in the round file cabnet. I made a race car out if it in the mid 70's. It also came with A70-13 Polly what ever tires. Only other option was an am radio. Car really look'd good back in 72. Red with a white stripe. Its pictured in the gallery along with Racer Walsh's car. I raced it from mid 70's till 95.

Quote from: Scott Hamilton on January 10, 2004, 10:57:51 AM
Henry sent that mag to me to get it online, go to the bricc-a-brac section & look for Henry's name... you can read the entire article online.

Huh? Bricc-a-brac section? Where is that?

Chris

There are links to the left on the page. Just slowly scroll them & you can see the link for Bric-A-Brack.

Sorry - I just looked again very carefully and I just can't find any "bric-a-brac" section. Thanks for trying to help.

Chris

When you are on the forum page, you will see something that has your username, under it how many users are online. keep looking down the page, you'll see an item for sale in the Pinto store, then some links. Brick-A-Brack is one of those links, the 10th one down. It's there as I'm looking right at it. Again, this is on the left side of the page. Hope this helps.

Found it - duh  ???, thanks for your patience.

Chris

Not a problem. I've been there myself from time to time. Glad I was able to help ya.

Yeah I saw this car.....I'm only like 25-30 minutes away from it too. It would be mine if I had the extra cash. Someone on here needs to give me the money to buy it and I'll drive it around till they can come get it!! :fastcar:

There is another Group II brochure on Ebay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1971-Pinto-Customizing-Kit-Pamphlet_W0QQitemZ220270674974QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220270674974&_trkparms=39%3A1%7C65%3A1%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

It is already up to $51 :surprised:  I am not bidding on it since I already have one.  There are two guys bidding on it.  It will be interesting to see if it goes for more....

We never said the reason we thought you were nuts was because you spent the money....  :lost:

That is a nice brochure to have..hummm

FrankBoss

Quote from: Pintony on August 20, 2008, 04:56:32 AM
IT is a 1 page brochure.
And you guys think I'm nuts for spending money on dash pads.
It is cardboard!!!
Buy a Printer!!!

TOO FUNNY!!!

Tony, it is actually a 4-5 page catalog showing all the parts and the three packages they offered.

Quote from: Pintony on August 20, 2008, 04:56:32 AM
IT is a 1 page brochure.
And you guys think I'm nuts for spending money on dash pads.
It is cardboard!!!
Buy a Printer!!!

TOO FUNNY!!!

Tony!  Buy it and make copys to sell on e-bay

Were these Group II options available as late as the '79 and '80 Pintos?

Well then that brochure is different than the one I have.  I have a multiple page copy. 

Doug, I have only seen two Group II Pinto's to date and they were both early cars.  One was a 72 that my friend owned.  The other was a 71, I believe, that was on Ebay a couple months ago.