After an exaustive search on the net & phone calls out the ying yang, I'm currently in dialog with a company that will be making window run & belt weatherstriping for our ponies. They have had a Pinto set completed for some time now & they were waiting for someone to contact them.
They are sending me the samples this week.
Here is what I need to know,
I'm assuming that all the sedans & runabouts 71-80 have the same window belts & window runs, do they? What about the wagons? I have a Master Parts catalog but it only goes to 1972, I can look if there is a different part number for the wagons of 72 only, can someone else dig deeper?
Finding the window run 'guides' might prove impossible unless anyone has a lead, Here is a picture of them to jog our memories,
The other side,
That is great news! I have collected some very nice originals but have not had time to install them. Of course, new ones would be better!
According to my Mitchell book, the beltline and glass run weatherstripping are the same for wagon's, sedan's, and hatchback's. All years use the same p/n's. Let me know if you want me to list the Ford P/N's.
How much, and who do I send my money to for a couple of sets? I could probably use two sets of each now, maybe more in the future. As I am recently "single again" the price would have to be right, so let us all know, Scott.
John
Yea, let me know the part numbers if you can
So, there all the same though 80?
I will be test fitting a set next week at a friends house who is building his sweet Pinto.
Once we have a green light, they watn us to send in a complete set of old ones to verify again everything is good. When all that is done, we'll see when we can order some.
I will put up all the information shortly, stay tuned!
Well I was wrong..... According to my Mitchel manual here are the p/n's
Pass side inside Belt - D1FZ6221456B
Pass side outside Belt- D6FZ6221452A
Driver side inside Belt - D1FZ6221457B
Driver side outside Belt- D6FZ6221453A
These are the same for all body styles 71-80.
Glass run 71-76 - D1FZ6221596C
Same for both sides and all body styles.
Glass run 77-80 - D7FZ6221596B
Same for both sides and all body styles.
I am not sure what the difference is in the glass runs between the years? The book is a little misleading so I hope I interpreted it correctly.
I have a good set of old 72's I can send and one 79 I can send.
I definately need a set of 79's
The difference in the runs may have to do with the difference in the regulators. The regulators changed from a dual arm to a single arm just about the timeframe noted for the runs.
Forgive me if I seem dumb on this, I'm very savvy on the 71-73 models, what is the difference with the window regulators?
I believe it was in '77 they went to a single arm regulator that has a nylon guide at the end of a single arm. The earlier regulators used two arms, commonly referred to as scissor type regulator and used two channels on the bottom of the glass. I hope this helps.
I will check my Ford parts books and see if there is any notes as to what the difference may be and let you know.
I'm sending them a complete set of used window belts today as they requested.
I should have their 'sample' set by Friday I hope.
Thanks for the part numbers, I'm forwarding that to them as well..
Scott, I would like to ( show off ) a pair of these on the Red Pangra at the Fabulous Fords Forever car Show Next Month. I think I could stirr up a bunch of sales ( and I need some badly) to get the car at Its 99% complete restored condition.
Scott,
The Ford Parts books (73/79) I have are a bit confusing regarding the belt w/strips. The inside belt is listed as the same for all years, all models. The outside belt numbers shown above are listed with a note that they are for single arm regulators only, but yet the applicable years shown are for 73 and later so these should probably be checked closely. In the Ford Illustration Catalog, the look of the outer belts is different in the illustration of the dual-arm and single-arm regulators, but these are drawings and may not mean much. On the runs, they do show different part numbers for the dual-arm and single-arm regulators with the production date break being 8/2/76. I have copies of the Ford Illus Catalog pages for the doors with the weatherstrips and regulator components, if you would like copies of them to share.
OK,
I sent the company a set of 77 window belts from a friend here localy that is restoring his ride.
I have 2 outer & 1 inner NOS belts for a 72 I compared them to & they were the same.
I might need to ship the one's that are coming to someone with a latter year to compair. I will check them out with a 72 wagon(mine) & a 72 runabout at the body shop (mine) & then I'm going to drive to Jim's house (friend that gave up the old belts) & test fit them on his 77.
Do I need to test them on another year, if so what year?
Thanks for your effort here, I REALLY appreciate you looking into this!
OK, the box with the first set of window belts arived today,
I'm going to a friends house this weekend to test fit them to his 77 sedan & then to test fit them on my 72 runabout. I would like to send them out to someone that has a 79-80 wagon to test fit them on it as well, any takers? You will need to have your old belt weatherstripping removed & place this new set close to the holes & see if it will fit without actually installing them. They are on loan from RePOPS factory.
Here are a few pictures of the belts, the NOS Orginials are on the right,
Outer Belts
Another short of the inner, as you can see they are NOT exactly as factory but VERY close & it looks like they will snap in!
cool, can't wait to get a set of those! Any word on prices? Nother question, will they fit a mustang II? That would be a money maker also!
Nope, the 'StangII has frameless windows & longer doors. (I studied putting M-II body panels on a pinto wagon ... once)
Gimme, gimmee, gimme. I am tired of hearing that whistle when I drive down the road. :)
John
I'll buy a set and try them on my '80 Squire for you.
Im all in.........
Quote from: 79panel on March 23, 2004, 06:28:51 PM
I'll buy a set and try them on my '80 Squire for you.
We will need to try this 'first run' set before they will mass manufacture them. Are you intrested in trying them on your wagon WITHOUT installing them? This might mean having you car in the garage until we can lock down the template & order some for you... No guarentees, ...
OK, we have tried them on a 76 sedan, Jim's car, & my 72 Runabout & they fit great.
Here is Jim bending the clips down so we can remove them after installation.
The inner belt is a little smaller than the orignal but Jim & I believe they look great and fit well.
The outer is almost identical to the one FORD put on,
Check Jim's car out, look for more pictures I took in the 'Your Pintos' Section,
I will be calling repops this Monday & giving the OK that these belts work great, even though I cannot test them on a 79-80 Wagon.
I will let everyone know soon on how to get yours.
I'm in for 2 sets, 1 for my 77 Bobcat project and 1 for my brother's 78 Pinto.
Here's a look at the window runs I completed today. They look like new! I used a NOS run (on the right) for a pattern. The NOS window run cost me $85 from Green Sales & it is hard from being in its package for so many years you cannot install it.
Here is the Window run material, again the NOS run is on the right.
My Wife had to hold down the runs because the NOS will not lay flat.
another shot, from the side...
NOS on the right.
What do you guys think, re-sell them on the site?
They will be installed on my car soon & I will know absolutely that they are go.
love it! I know i'll be ordering 2 sets maybe three sets of it all (window felt, door seals, everything) This is great.....God i love this web site!
I called repops & they are greenlighting the parts for order. They will call me back later on this week to set pricing & ordering information.
We are really close now!
Window belt stripping.
The Window runs will be installed on my car & after that, I will feel like I can make some for the group. I want to make sure there are no problems & they fit perfectly before you guys start to play...
Any news on this front yet Scott?
I have not heard from Re-Pops yet on the window belt weather strip,
I will contact them on Wed if I don't hear from them before.
Gerhard Plata has sent me a but load of window run guides to start the manufacturing process on the window runs. I still need to install them on my 72 before I feel I can sell them to you guys, I want everthing to be perfect.
They are installing the headliner on my 72 this friday & then they can put all the windows back in & chrome on.
Scott,
Would you please add my name for two sets of the window belts and window runs for my '77 and '78 Pintos.
Thanks, Frank.
I have spoken with Re-Pops, we are go on the window belts.
They will cost $65/set for Non Charter Members & $55/Set for Charter Members (Limit 2 sets at this price).. The Maverick cost $85 through KarKrafters!... Good Price!
I have ordered 10 sets initally & they will arrive in 3 weeks, I will put up the paypal ordering page hopefully by wed of next week to start the ordering process..
YEA!....
cool
Were we also seeing about door seals? Mine are in brutal shape! Repops do them also?
I don't have any plans currenlty to do door seals,
the Window Belts have not arrived yet, hence they are not available online here yet..
I will let everyone know when they arrive..
Thanks
hi,
whatever happened to the window runs and window belts?
i would like to purchase two sets of each.
thanks,
jeff
got my belts, they look awesome! Any word on the window runs? Mine are real bad and leaking....along with my door seals (hint hint ;D)
Window belts are now on sale for Charter Members & above, they will be out in public soon.
Hey,
I have an 80 Squire wagon, how do I get a set of belts and runs. Price and address, please. Thanks a lot.
Charter members and administrators get first dibs on the first run.
To become a charter member, click on the banner at the top of the community page. The cost is $20 per year. But, that's not to say that you *have* to become a charter member to get them. The non-charter members will be able to order the items as well. It'll just be a little longer before they are made available so that the charter members can order theirs. It's a benefit for contributing to the site. If the first-run items are sold out, it's my understanding follow-up orders are probable if there is enough demand.
i would be willing to try those on my 79 or my 80 pinto let me know how much . pintopaul@bluemoo.net
Count me in for a set of channels and felts for both doors (for my 80 wagon)!
jclor@carsincontext.com
Do you have any new information on the next available purchase of window belts and window runs since your June entry.
Waiting patiently.
Thank you for the help, Frank.
I also can be counted on to get a set of the channel and felts for my 78 wagon. Let me know when they are available.
Keep up the good work!!!
Quote from: Scott Hamilton on June 12, 2004, 09:36:28 AM
Window belts are now on sale for Charter Members & above, they will be out in public soon.
how much ?
I know this topic is older than Methuselah, but I am curious about the price too. Since they should be out in public now, where do you get them?
So, this topic is even OLDER now at this point, but is there any chance they will be offered up for sale again? I could use both felts and channels
http://www.topsdown.com/search.php?mode=search&sort=title&sort_direction=0 (http://www.topsdown.com/search.php?mode=search&sort=title&sort_direction=0) they have them and door seals.
Many of y'all might be in the know by now, but if not... I just purchased an entire new set of rubber for my '77 C/W from an ebay vendor called convertible-specialists. I got door seals ($99/pair), window sweeps ($99/full set), window channel ($29/8-foot cut-to-fit). I also found a wagon hatch seal from weatherstrip-specialists (whom I'm pretty sure are the same people) for $45. One of these guys also offers a hood-to-cowl seal for under $20. Shipping on most of this order was free, too!
Ah, I just realized that the vendor bigtimmay linked to is the same one on ebay. Convertible Top Specialists. Even better! Let's keep the demand up for these, shall we?
I have a 79 wagon that desperately needs a set, how much do they cost and where do I get them?
Quote from: 79KansasWagon on November 23, 2012, 09:34:00 PM
I have a 79 wagon that desperately needs a set, how much do they cost and where do I get them?
Convertible Top Specialists:
http://www.topsdown.com/search.php?mode=search&sort=title&sort_direction=0