Today I purchaced a canary yellow 77 runabout set up for drag racing, well almost set up...
oN THE FRONT WINDHIELD WAS A STICKER FOR THEIS SITE AND A NUMBER #332???
anyone know or know of this car any help wuld be awesome....(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/7022/pintocz9.jpg)
thanks chris in minnesota
I'll tell you what........that is a nice looking car! It appears like that has a '79-80' front end on it. Is that hood all Fiberglass? The reason I ask is I'm looking for a Cowl hood for my '80' and that is a nice looking hood on that car. How is it set up, V-8 or Turbo 2.3?
Shawn
YEAH HOOD IS FIBERGLASS... :) 21/2 inch cowl , car was set up and came with a 302 swpa parts and a c4 8" rear with spool 4.62 gears etc....
I was wondering that also, I thought 77 had round headlights??
CC
As far as it goes (I think) I believe the '79-80' were the only ones with a Square headlight assembly. If there is any info on that hood, make, brand.......anything could you post it. I am looking for a 2½" cowl hood to make room for my FMIC well the tubing at least.
ILL LOOK TOMMOROW BUT Idont rember seeing anything... I just cant beleive I got the car for so cheap... :) SUPPOSEDLY ONLY HAS 5,900 ORIGINAL MILES???
CC
If you don't mind me asking..........How much??? 5,900 miles is awfull low mileage to modify the car. Don't take this as me complaining, the car looks awsome. Are you going to post more pics like on http://photobucket.com/ hint hint ;D
yeah, I will ,picture litterally got it home this morning $1500 w/ all tha swaPparts aluminuim radiator tranny cooler w/ fan, headers, c-4 w/ shift kit , driveshaft, custom exhaust system
missing seats, door panels, headliner, and some small dash pieices...
CC
WOW $1500............that is awsome! Did you at least be nice to the guy....using Vasilene I mean. lol :hypno:
Friday the 13th.............who says it's bad luck. Well not for you at least.
Great score! 8)
NO MARKNG ON THE HOOD.. SORRY :(
but no one knows this car? OR ANYTHING? wow
Thanks for looking!
Shawn
Well, whoever you bought that car off of was registered to this site at one time, and paid for that window sticker to become a charter member. The number is unique to the car (suspossedly) Mabye Scott or 77turbopinto or whoever keeps track of that stuff can help you out if you really want to know....
BGP ;D :D ;) :) :) :) :) :)
not trying to be a pain... But I would really like to verify the mileage and maybe some sort of story on how the car became a 77 w/ 79/80 fron tend??
CC
congratulations on the nice looking pinto.
give it a little time and someone can tell you who the car was previously registered to, but only a name or what ever info they submitted when they got the sticker.
The front end is from a 79 or 80 even though the car maybe a 77 is the dash still stock, in a pre 79 the instrument cluster is 2 round guages and 79 or 80 they are square. hope this helps some.
The '79-80' Dash panel also had Two Round openings if it was ordered with the "Sports Package". That consisted of Speedo & Tac. in front of the driver, and there was the Fuel, Alt. and Temp gauges were the Heat Controll usually is (in dash). Cruising Wagons came with the "Sports Package" they also had "Sport Mirrors" were they were remote from inside the car and were Semi-gloss Black to match all the window trim.
Just my 2¢!
If anyone knows were I can get a Fiberglass Hood for a '79-80' with a 2½" Cowl could you speak up? Please
Shawn
WELL shes got a square dash opening for the gauges :(
soI checked the title... AND SHES A 77?? SO OSME ONE HAD A LOT OF FUN WITH THIS CAR in 5900 miles...
lol
chris
The rear bumper is 79-80 also,Are the tail lights all plastic or are the metal trimed.
ill check and take MORE PICTURES TONIGHT...
cc
I remember seeing that car posted on this site a while back. I am sure if you poke around some you will find it. Nice car!
have you checked the vin on the title to the vin on the dash? It may have been a car without title and a junk title was used or some one used the wrong title some where.
YES SIR CHECKED THIS MORNIGN AFTER all this NEW INFO had arisen, tittle and vint tag on dash match....
I have not entered it on the site...
CC
Your 1977 Pinto 3 door hatchback was the 188025 unit built at the St. Thomas - Pinto, Fairmont, Zephyr plant.
It was originally outfitted with a 2.3 I4 ohc engine from the factory.
anyone???? any of the foundign fathers???
Sounds like someone has either swapped a VIN tag on the dash to get around a lost title, or someone did a LOT of work changing the whole car to a 79-80 setup.
Any chance you can get a pic of the VIN tag? You can blur out some of the numbers or whatever, main thing I'd like to see is the rivets.
-Harry
went and looked at the vint tap no sighn of being tampered with an and still has the smal lrivet heads... looks alomost identical rivets to my 63 falcon ...
CC
Hmmm...
Ok, next thing I know to do is to check the VIN on the dash to the sticker on the drivers door jam.
Someone had to have swapped that VIN plate on the dash. there's over a full model year between what a 77 should have and what a 79 has. As I'm sure you know, the bumpers (and brackets), whole front end, dash (and cluster), and tail lights are different. It all changed in late 78 for the 79 model year, so a factory flub with 79 components on a 77 is impossible. If your VIN was comming up for a late-production 78, it could be possible, but doubtful.
-Harry
There were some 78's that were sold as 77's, but that car has had a VIN swap.
There are other differences too. (How the windshield is mounted, e-brake handle, heater box...)
Bill
NO DOOR TAG, CARS BEEN REPAINTED...
any thing easy to check??? OTHERTHAN THAT??
is it that big of a deal???
C
Re: is it that big of a deal???
depends... are you planning on licensing for street use? or will it be just a race/drag car?
Look at the bottom of the seats, you might find the build sheet. That might give you the correct VIN for the car. I am sure it is somewhere else on the body too.
It might have been swapped for a number of reasons other than to register a stolen car: a) Someone had a 77 registered that was rotted/got wrecked and they got a 79 with a good body and did not want to go though inspections/DMV to get back on the road. b) Someone owed a shop a bunch of money on the 79 and skipped town, and the shop bought a VIN tag and title to be able to sell it. I bet there are other semi-legit reasons, but it still does not make it "legal".
As far as it effecting YOU, if YOU did not swap the VINs, the only thing you have to worry about is IF the real VIN (THAT CAR) is in the NCIC as stolen AND the true identity is discovered. If that happens, you might be out a car AND the money you paid.
Bill
If you already have the title in your name, then I wouldn't worry about it. I don't know of any areas other than the "buck tag" "on the radiator core support behind the grill" that would have the VIN on it, and even then most people wouldn't know to look for it there. Other than that, I know of no other places for VINs on pintos, and I've torn a couple down to bare sheet metal.
The only way I can see you running into trouble is if you try to sell it. Other than that, you shouldn't have any problems.
-Harry
THERE IS A CLEAN TITTLE , i HAVE YET TO TRASFER IT INTO MY NAME....AND i HAVE PLATES FROM THE STATE OF MINNESOTA...
cant I just claim it as a 77 thats been re bodied to look like a 79/80??? if i where to sell it? BECASUE TECHNICALLY THATS WHATY IT IS...
I agree it probably is not important now. But if you are still curious, there are partial VIN's stamped in engine bay area on top of the inner fenders under where the front exterior fenders bolt down. The number is about a foot back from the radiator core support. To see this, you have to remove a fender and scrap away the putty from the top of the inner fender (a wire brush helps also). The number is stamped on top of both inner fenders. I have never tried it but you might be able to read it from inside the fender but it would be difficult and the numbers would be backwards. The number stamped there is missing the second, third, and fourth digit, i.e. VIN=9T11Y123456, stamp=9T123456. The stamped numbers will also have small stars at the start and at the end of the number for some reason. If you car still has its inner fenders (they are sometimes removed on race cars), this may help solve your mystery.
If you have concerns about this you do have options. You can take the car back to the person you got it from and ask for either details or a refund. Also, you can contact your local police dept. and ask them to investigate the matter. Please review my last post. One way to do it is to contact the police and if it is a stolen car they might let you return it for a refund THEN bag the person you bought it from. You get your money and the owner gets the car. It would be neat if it was stolen and gets returned to the rightfull owner like 20 years later.
If the person that swapped the VIN's had taken the time to get a 79 or 80 VIN/title, you might have never known.
Bill