Ok I am new to this forum but here goes anyway. I have recently aquired a 72 pinto street/strip set-up from my father. The enging is a 2.0 punched 60 over 12 1/2 to 1 compression steel crank forged rods dome top pistons everything that could be done to the motor in 1981. the car was fully built and raced a total of 5 times at a 1/8 each time then parked till my dad and uncle disassembled the car in 1991. I am now trying to get a new car together to have some fun with I have a new 9 in ford rear end narrowed and but the first time I took the car out and let the clutch out at 11,500 rpms 2nd gear went right out on the pavement so I have been looking for about 6 months to find a bell housing and no one seems to have one they have plenty for a 2.3 but none for a 2.0 if anyone has one or an idea where I can find one please email me or let me know the car is just setting until I find a bell housing. Thanks Tony...
11,500 RPM`s... :wow: ????
12,200 is Red Line!!! Long Beach Marine did all the block work. 395 hp at the crank on there dyno.
Quote from: 72pintounleashed on July 30, 2006, 09:24:13 PM
12,200 is Red Line!!! Long Beach Marine did all the block work. 395 hp at the crank on there dyno.
395 hp out of an N/A 2.0 :what: :what:, Um, HUH.............. ???
honda F1 motor?
:nocool: Ok since so many of you need specIfics here..
N/A 2.0 Punched 60 Over
Steel Crank/ Wedge Cut
TRW 12 1/2:1 Dome Top Pistons
Roller 264 Dur.@.050 510 Intake/Exhaust Lift
Manley 1 3/4 Intake Valves
Manley 1 1/5 Exhaust Valves
Heads Been Milled .050
4 55mm Weber Carburetors
All Mallory Ignition
Taylor Wires
At the Crank Motor Puts Out 295 HP ON THE DYNO
WITH THE 100 SHOT OF N.O.S ITS 395 (DIDNT KNOW I HAD TO BE SO SPECIFIC TO GET SOME HELP SOLVING A SIMPLE TRANSMISSION PROBLEM) YES THERE IS MORE DONE TO THE ENGINE BUT I DONT HAVE TIME TO SIT AND GIVE ALL THE DETAILS AT THIS TIME...
Hard to believe, but I guess those numbers are possible. You have to realize that not many people will believe you when you tell them you have 295hp on a N/A motor, never mind 395. And with nitrous, its not really N/A anymore.
So, as long as your YELLING AT ME I will tell you this. YES, you need to be verry spacific when telling some of us you have a motor at the uppper limits of what that motor would possibly go. Yes, it is suggested that you let us know you are running NOS becouse it DOES make a big difference in how we can help you.A NOS motor will have a ton more torque than a N/A motor will have.and by the way, was the motor dynoed with the NOS?, just becouse you have a 100 shot does not mean it will produce 100 hp.More later
Quote from: 72pintounleashed on July 30, 2006, 04:03:12 PM
Ok I am new to this forum but here goes anyway. I have recently aquired a 72 pinto street/strip set-up from my father. The enging is a 2.0 punched 60 over 12 1/2 to 1 compression steel crank forged rods dome top pistons everything that could be done to the motor in 1981. the car was fully built and raced a total of 5 times at a 1/8 each time then parked till my dad and uncle disassembled the car in 1991. I am now trying to get a new car together to have some fun with I have a new 9 in ford rear end narrowed and but the first time I took the car out and let the clutch out at 11,500 rpms 2nd gear went right out on the pavement so I have been looking for about 6 months to find a bell housing and no one seems to have one they have plenty for a 2.3 but none for a 2.0 if anyone has one or an idea where I can find one please email me or let me know the car is just setting until I find a bell housing. Thanks Tony...
I thought ALL Pinto's with a 2.3 used the lower holes on ALL the bells/trannies. Also, the 2.0's and the 2.3's have the same bolt pattern so you can use a 2.3 bell with stepped dowels. For 6 months no one told you that?
If 2nd gear hit the ground, why do you need just the bell?? Are you looking for a 4spd bell or an a/t bell? I would think a c4 would hold up better. If you are talking about a 2.3/c4 bell, please define your use of the word "plenty."
IF the engine has that much power AND you get a good amount of traction at the tires, you will be changing a stock tranny and/or bell VERY OFTEN.
What engine was in the car back then? If it was the same one, what was in the car for a tranny?
Why did they stop racing it? Bad tranny?
When was the dyno test done?
Did you ask the people with the dyno for help finding parts? Most places with dynos also build/repair cars and SHOULD be able to tell you something (like don't use a stock tranny, don't pop the clutch at 11,500...).
BTW: Why did you "let the clutch out" at 11,500?
Bill
2nd gear?
The car was fully built in 1985 it had a c4 automatic and 9 in ford with 456 ring and pinion they decided to dissemble the car because the half owner my unlce got married and his wife hates pintos and told him to get rid of it. My dad kept the engine till around 1992 when we moved to missouri and found a very sweet 1972 pinto compition orange one owner with a blown head gasket. We then put our motor in the car and drove it till about a year ago when the trans finaly let go which I knew it would I have been looking for a automatic bell housing to solve this problem because I know a c4 is stronger and should take the power when built properly. I have heard that a 2.3 has the same bolt pattern I wasnt sure is bell houing depth was the same.I am getting ready to put a 4 speed back in the car this weekend so I can atleast start driving it again I hate to see it sit. The dyno test were done in 1984 when they finally finished the motor after balancing and blue printing with the new carb set up. Granted I dont run Nitrous on the car everyday and in fact I dont really plan on using it anytime soon the car is plenty fun with out it. So Bill if a 2.3 automatic bell housing will work I thank you for your info please remember people I am only 25 soon to be 26 and this car is only about 10 years before my time but I love the pinto era and most of the work on this engine was done when I was only about 1 year old. I am basically taking a once great toy and trying to build it again and most people in missouri laugh at pintos or know nothing about them...
Mind you, I'm not doubting you, or flaming you in any way. But WHY did you dump the clutch @ 11,500? Even a C-4 won't survive that. Putting in a trans will lead to U-joint failure, then axles etc. I'm fairly sure even most racing components won't handle the stresses of an 11,500rpm launch.
I think I speak for us all when I say we'd LOVE to see pics of an N/A 295hp 2.0
Kool.
Don't forget the stepped dowels.
Start thinking about a driveshaft too, the one from the 4spd car is shorter than one from a c3 car, and keep in mind that ones from cars with an 8" rear are shorter. I THINK wagons have the same shafts. This gives you up to 4 shafts to choose from, as well as ones from a fox body stang (like the one in my Pinto).
The #'s you posted are VERY high for these engines, and like TP72 said, you NEED to give full details when tossing around #'s like THAT (they tend to peg the BS meters, if you know what I mean). I am not saying they are wrong, but it is amazing how the ink on those dyno sheets will smear over time.
Go easy on that "new" tranny, like keep to 4 digit RPM power shifts.
Bill
sweet another fellow pinto missourian :-D Springfield here.