Today as i was coming home from dinner, i was yielding to traffic as i was waiting to make a right turn. This guy in an S10 beside me rams me in the butt and then drives off. I got his license plate number and filed a police report. My car (76 sedan) is still drivable but the right turn signal is out. It is not going to be cheap to replace this car, or fix it, when the find this mother f**ker. I'll let you know when i find out more info.
That SUCKS, Pintoguy!!! I am sure you will find all of the parts you need for repair from your fellow pinto gang. Sorry to hear about the wreck. Get that jerk!!!!
that stinks! a real pain in the tail! no pun intended. if my dad hadn't destroyed my '79, I'd say come and get the tail panel. I'm sure you can find crash parts somewhere.
the good thing is that you weren't injured!
krazi
I'll get the guy and sue him if he doesnt have insurance. Ive got his license plate number, which traced back to a 1997 Chevy.....which is a perfect match to the truck that hit me. It was a Purple Chevy S10 pickup, about a 1997 model, too. So im sure the police will find him. He'll pay for hitting my baby and then running! Him or his insurane company is going to fix my car, or buy me another one in just as good of shape and let me keep my salvage to fix later on, otherwise this is going to go to court and get ugly.. I think a new Quarter panel and the panel that the tail lights go in, and it will be good as new again. Somehow, which i cant explain, he hit the car in the corner and never even put a scratch on the bumper.... i dont see how that happened because his truck didnt sit up that high. Anyways im gonna get some pictures, and talk to my insurance company, and get a copy of the police report and keep on their asses about finding this guy. The address listed on this guys truck is in another county, so its going to take a little longer to process but i think im gonna get this guy pretty good. Ill post pictures as soon as i get them.
sorry to here about your mis fourtune.
that is horrible. when they find him they should let you rip his arm off and beat him with it for running. i don't really mean it. sorry about that.
Glad you are ok.
Don't let the insurance company (his or yours) rip you off. They will most likely total the car and offer you 200 or 300 bucks due to the "book value". If you make a mature "fuss", you might get much more, but you might have to do some reasearch to find a credable source for collecter car values. If you have a hard time let me know, I MIGHT be able to help.
Bill
You may want to chat with Harley (pintoman). Dunno if you read about his 1980 Rally getting hit in the back & the insurance co. wanted to total it out, but he fought it & ended up able to keep the title without having it listed as salvage or rebuilt.
If the guy has insurance im not going to leave them alone until they keep my title clear and pay me a pretty good sum of $$$. It'll be hard to find a car in comparable condition, and im not going to take a loss, so it'll probably cost atleas 1,000 maybe more to find a replacement car. Probably atleast that to fix this one, if i have a shop do it. I'm going to school this fall for auto collision repair, so i can probably store the car (im still driving it right now actually) until i get in school and then myself and the class can fix it for the cost of parts. I'll lookup pintoman and see what hes got to say. Thank for the replies guys. Oh i have some pictures now too. ill post them.
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if you are thinking of fixing the car i have a 1/4 panel theat i will give to you for free. all you will have to do is pay shipping im in northern california. let me know if you are interested. cause i would hate to see one of the cars go to the crusher..
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everything but the trunk section and the hatch is up for grabs. and to help you out i will give you what ever you can use.
I hate to see Pinto's hurt like that.Mine was not hurt that bad.They were going to total the Rallye,but i would not budge.I was able to keep my title and they gave me a check for a $1037.It is just about done.It will be ready for Carlisle.
thats sucks i would of put the pedale to the medle and kicked the guys a$$ if that was me
The damage looks grimm,... what a smack!
I had a similar hit on my 72 Runabout about 4 years ago, I had collectors car insurance & they picked up the tab to put her back together. The hard part was finding a shop to do the work, most would turn up their nose when I told them it was a Pinto.
Hello Pintoguy76,
I have a NEW pass side rear 1/4 if you are interested?
Where are you located Maybe I can drop off on my way to carlisle???
From Pintony
That's ashame man...I feel for you. I lived in that area in 99-2000, many close calls there w /idiot drivers myself. Back then I drove a Datsun B-210. Springfield, Mo is one of THE worst places I ever seen for idiot drivers. I always got the message that they just don't care. Your pics are evidence enough. :(
I'm not all that far from you,(Amarillo,Texas) so if nothing else works out call me sometime & I'll see what I can do for you. It shouldn't cost a grand to fix that if you are even 1/2 way handy at working on cars. ;)
Still a dam shame though because the Pinto is an endangered species these days. I agree w/ the guy that said "rip his arm off & beat him w/ it!" :lol: ;D
Also...DO NOT accept the first offer from ANY insurance company. I went thru this in an accident that wasnt my fault in Colorado w/my LUV pickup.They'll ay "well, it's an old vehicle and there's not much of a value to it to begin with"........Make them dig an come to you a 2nd time, the waiting is well worth it. ;D
does anyone on the site have a hatch like the one on the green car. I need a small window hatch for my 79
Quote from: pinto_351 on April 29, 2006, 11:24:49 PM
does anyone on the site have a hatch like the one on the green car. I need a small window hatch for my 79
"Someone" just might have about TEN of those hatches, but hey...don't hi-jack this mans thread. :cheesy_p:
i dont think im willing to give mine up.. unless the price is right lol
Panhandle Sam - I've left a few posts in your post about parting put 30 pintos... never heard anything back yet that i saw. I too have had several close call and an accident before this one due to stupid drivers. In 2004 on new years eve i was hit by a SOBER woman in borad day light who claims she could not see me, in my big old 1978 Chevy suburban. She plowed right into my drivers front corner and totaled the truck. I'll see what happens with this case, i might end up needing parts from you. I am good at working on the mechanics of cars, but ive never done body work before. I am going to school this fall tho, for auto collision repair and welding technology. If nothing more, i beleive me and the class can fix this car, if i bring in the parts. Thanks for the post! I'll keep you posted.
Pintony - I emailed you on the 1/4. What did you use to make the new panel on the back of your purple pinto that the taillights go in? Since i need a new one of those, I might as well just make my own and customize it a bit, right? :D
Skrach - I might need the 1/4 from you and some other parts. Got a good solid drivers front and rear floor pan? What about rocker panels? They are not damaged due to the accident, but they are rusted thru and i cant put new carpet down with rusty floor pans. If you have them and are able to remove them, what would you want for them? Please let me know.
i will give you the 1/4's for free, although you will have to cover shipping etc. floor pans are decent i wil take some pictures of it asap. if you are interested in the whole car i can cut the trunk section i need out of it and then you can have the rest.. where are you located?
Im in springfield MO, a bit far for me to come get the whole car unless the insurance company picked up the tab but i dont think they will. If the guy even has insurance. But pieces i might be able to do. Depends on the shipping cost.
i will get those pics of the floor and rocker panels for you tomarrow hopefully..
ok, thank you.
pintoguy,
Very sad to hear about your mishap. Insurance companies don't want to even attempt fixing antiques. They would much rather cut you a cheque. Obtaining the parts is too complicated, and they don't like bodywork. They are used to putting on new parts to replace the dented ones.
I was just on e-bay, and there is a beautiful 1976 Pinto with AC and less than 40000 miles. There is still 6 days left on that auction.
Oldcarpierre
Yeah i saw that but i dont think ill be hearing from the insurance company or getting any money (if the guy even has insurance) before that auction ends.
I have more news to report. I called a leaving the scene officer at the police department today and they located the guy that hit me. They gave him 2 tickets. One for leaving the scene and one for hitting me. He CLAIMS he was working out of town and was in a hurry to get to work. I know its a lie and the officer thinks so too, but oh well thats really kinda irrelevant, to me atleast. He DOES have insurance, the officer gave me his insurance information. Ive called them and got all the info filed. I should hear back in 24-48 hours, as soon as they contact the guy and get the police report. I'll let you guys know what happens.
Quote from: pintoguy76 on May 02, 2006, 02:29:38 PM
I have more news to report. I called a leaving the scene officer at the police department today and they located the guy that hit me. They gave him 2 tickets. One for leaving the scene and one for hitting me. He CLAIMS he was working out of town and was in a hurry to get to work. I know its a lie and the officer thinks so too, but oh well thats really kinda irrelevant, to me atleast. He DOES have insurance, the officer gave me his insurance information. Ive called them and got all the info filed. I should hear back in 24-48 hours, as soon as they contact the guy and get the police report. I'll let you guys know what happens.
Right on!! Fry that guy.HERE they woulda already arrested him for hit an run, sounds like Mo laws are just as lax/lazy as they used to be. Hopefully you can get him put so deep in a jail cell they'll have to feed him beans with a sling-shot! :lol:
Wishin you the best of luck, curious to see how this goes.
Pintoguy76
The '76 has now gone over 3 thousand, and has not met the reserve. Perhaps you can use this auction to show your insurance company what a nice '76 is worth. They would have no idea otherwise.
Oldcarpierre
Yea i saw that...$3080....and still 5 days left of the auction. The auction states the car cost $4500 new... i bet it sells for atleast that, 30 years later. I always wonder tho... the way i understand it pintos werent supposed to cost a dollar more than $2000 or weight an ounce more than 2000 pounds....i think even my base model cost more than that new and weighs more too i think. I think its about 2400.... but not 100% sure. This 76 listed cost 4500....and even tho it has every option known to man.... i doubt the options cost more than just the car itself did...that would be unreal.
pintoguy76
You are correct about the 2000 dollars and (2000 pounds) when it was introduced (I believe in 1970) as a 1971 model, however the seventies were a period of wicked inflation, so I could see how a well optioned (AC) 1976 would have gone over $4000.
Oldcarpierre
Well while we're on this subject...it so happens I worked for a ford dealership once upon a time and I remember hearing the tales of $2000 for 2000 lbs and to confirm another gent here, yes that was in 71 and 72. In 1980 I was employeed by Capitol Lincoln/Ford/Mercury in Boise,Idaho. (That was my part time job, cause my full time then was w/ the state parks and rec dept).
But anyway, I drove several brand new Mercury Bobcats "dealer demos" I remember seeing sticker prices on those cars depending on options anywhere from $4,200 to $4,750.
I drove those lil cars like I had stole them and couldn't tear one up for anything no matter what I did, bear in mind I tried my hardest to imitate Robert Blake who was quite famous then with his TV show called "Barretta" :lol:
This later lead to me collecting Pinto's an Bobcats for a few years, because those cars were just soooo tough! During that same era while working for the Parks Dept I was driving brand new Chevy Luvs every year. Well, I'd better stop right here before the Chevy bashings start :lol:
You guys have a good one. TTYL
P.S.
Well mercury always has been a higher end ford....always being a bit more expensive from what ive seen....what i think i may remember seeing is that ford promised there would be no major changes for five years... and after that, then theyd start with the changes. 76 started with a new grille (and im pretty sure was over 2,000#), then 77 changed majorly...then 79 changed again.....and 80 halted production. The bobcat didnt come out until 75 i think... that would make the 5 year mark right there....in which time i can see both the pinto and bobcat being allowed to exceed 2000# and $2000. This is just my theory tho, but i think i remember reading that somewhere. And yes your right you just cant kill a pinto ;D My other 76 had 344k on it before i sold it...the body might as well have rusted away from the rest of the car. but it still ran. lol.
Guys,
I just looked up a couple of Pinto brochures. The 1971 sedan with the base engine (1600cc) is listed at 2030 lbs. The 1973 brochure lists the sedan at 2210 lbs with the 1600cc engine. The 1974 brochure lists the sedan at 2443 lbs, but that was with the 2000cc engine. I don't know how much of the 1973 to 1974 gain is due to the bigger base engine, and how much is due to the bumpers. 1974 was the first year for the large bumpers on struts. They were massive compared to the original. They also added 4.5 inches to the overall length (again from the brochure).
76pintoguy
That e-bay auction is now at $3800 with hours to go. Reserve has been met.
Oldcarpierre
Still havnt heard from the insurance company yet. I called them back today and they said the reason they hadnt called me back yet is because they hadnt heard back from the guy that hit me. The said when i called them the other day that since he had not called and reported the accident yet, that they had to call him and verify that information with him before they could file the claim, and then it would be 24-48 hrs after that before i heard from them. Anyways they went ahead and filed the claim, since I had to call them back and it has been six days. They're gonna try to call him again tomorrow and then they will call me. They gave me a claim number and a name/phone number for the adjuster. Its a woman ;D i'm thrilled at that. Woman are usually cunts when it comes to them having any authority but women absolutly do not intimidate me any at all. ;D I'll threaten court if i have to. I went to urgent care the other day and talked to the doctor, my back does hurt a little since the accident, but it did some before the accident too. The guy really didnt check me out all that much just asked me where it hurt then told me i strained my back, gave me 10 days worth of flexeril (muscle relaxer) and told me to check up with my doctor. Today a new pain appeard, it feels like it starts at my neck on the left side and goes down a few inches. Maybe whiplash or tension or something. Anyways i cant see my doctor until next week, he's "out sick" (odd that he knows when hes gonna return tho). Once i do i'm sure I'll have more medical bills and even more leverage for getting pain and suffering out of them. Which i think i deserve. I've gone thru hell! And its their drivers fault! Anyways that may be where i have to get the money to fix this car because i dont know that they are going to give me what i need to get this fixed. I am gonna do whatever it takes to atleast get the car where its doesnt have a salvage title. I'll let you know when i get more info.
hope you get this all fixed. it sucks that it even happened.
hope you get some good $$$ out of it. To others........read this...
http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php?topic=545.0
mine is insured for $18000. i have more than that into it, but its better than some pencil pusher looking in a book and telling me "your car is worth $500 according to our little black book"
finally got the insurance company to accept liability for my accident, but they only want to give me 563 for my pinto. They say salvage value for it is 23 dollars so if i want to keep it, they will deduct 23 dollars from the 563 and ill keep the car but ill have salavge title which i do not want. i also do not want to accept 565 dollars either. i need to establish a higher value for my car than what they have. id say mines worth 1000 atleast especially after the inconveniences ive had. i bought an "Old Car Price Guide" magazine froma bookstore and i says my car should be worth 1000, assuming it is in condition 3 which i think mine is or is close to. Does anyone know how i can find a better value for a 76 pinto sedan? 140k miles 4 speed 4 cylinder (2.3) some rust shiney paint tho... from 20 feet away it looks pretty good but can tell it needs some work to be perfect. i have pics in the pics section but my camera does not show it as nice as it is. The woman at the insurance company says she is not obligated to fix my car or replace it, she says she is obligated to pay me only the value of my car. The value should be what it will cost ME to replace it here, even if its not an identicle car (ive NEVER seen one identicle or even close to what mine is). That is just my opinion tho. What do you guys think?
have you tried talking to your insurance company for a better price?
my 76 bobcat wagon is insured at $4000 replacement cost. but that is antique insurance.
They said thats the most they could pay because thats the best value they could get from a dealer..... a dealer.... go figure....they f**k everyone out of money. Theyd pay 565 for the car and sell it for two or three times that. Mine would probably be worth it, since its got little rust, new radiator, battery, hoses, belts, tie rod ends, voltage regulator,starter, starter solenoid, battery cables, tune up, distributor, control module, master cylinder, brake hoses and calipers, brake springs, wheel cylinders, tires., exhaust, carburetor, fuel pump, shocks, transmission, clutch/pressure plate, ujoints.. i could go on and on. Got another couple hundred dollars in parts for it, too. Have a brand new rack and pinion, ragjoint, cylinder head, energy suspension control arm busings, strut rod bushings and rack and pinion bushings too. Not sure how much that all adds up to but id say its worth more than 565 dollars, wouldnt you? The paints still shiney, the chrome bumpers, while not perfect by any means, still look great!. GRrrrrr this stresses me out! I'll fight for more tho, until they give in.
You may have to go after the person who hit you in small claims court to recover the rest. I have talked to people who have had to do that.
Refuse to accept for anything less than $1000... They'll keep offering.. you keep refusing... they have to close the claim... it'll just take a long time...
i cut up that green car but i stil have the 1/4's if you need them
skrach did you happen to save the floor pans? i do need the quarter panel i think or aleast part of it. im scared to see the shipping bill tho. lol. can you get a quote for me to 65806?
yeah i will try to get a quote soon.. and i didnt save the floors cause they were rusted. plus most of the back floor (the trunk area) i saved for my car. but, i will keep an eye out for another car. that i can snag.
I went thru this with State Farm Insurance when my Chevy Luv was involved in a wreck that wasn't my fault...took 4 months and about 1000 phone calls along with numerous visits to them to get what I said the truck was worth...gotta just keep hagglin and naggin them and before long they'll get tired of hearing from you and they'll be like "What's it gunna take..just to get you off our backs?" That's when you got um!
Good luck...I've followed this sotry from the beginning and I'll be here for the end as well.
Id be up there on their butt all the time if the person i was dealing with was local. The adjuster woman im dealing with is in washington state and i am in missouri. Seems like i can never get ahold of anyone from the company on the phone, i always get voice mail. I did however send some information to her from the current issue of old car value guide that i bought at barns&noble and told her i figured my cars value to be 1600. It isnt worth that, but youve got to give them some room to come down a little. She never emailed me back but i called and left a message when she didnt email me, and she called me back the next day and surprisingly didnt give me a "no" but instead said she got the email and info and was working with her manager to "find an updated value" for the car. Im glad to hear i didnt get a great big "fras you" ("no") from them, so that gives me a little hope. Id settle for 1,000. I think thats fair and it would put me in the pinto i found that i want, if its not sold before we settle up.
Try sending them a very official looking and well typed letter via certified mail with the delivery notification option that tells you that they received it, it doesnt cost but a couple of bucks and may put a little more pressure on them to hurry up. I have had some luck in the past with this, It scared one employer into paying me money that he said he would never pay, he assumed that since the letter was so well written that an attorney wrote it.
Quick tip for dealing with ANY corporation. Contact a lawyer, just call & set up an appointment. Hopefully you'll never set foot in thier office, BUT when you tell them that you have an appointment with an attorney, they'll USUALLY jump through hoops to keep from going to court. It works quite well just remember to give the "so called" adjuster the lawyer's name & number. That way she can call & verify your "so called" intent.