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Title: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: madmax96101 on April 19, 2006, 09:55:38 PM
 i want to convert my carb to fuel injection and also get a turbo for it. i wanted to know what would be the best and where i could get these things. my engine is a 2.3. thank yo for any help. I also am not going to do this project right away this is just to get information that would be helpful so i can get everything together and get the parts and study up for it.
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: Pintony on April 19, 2006, 10:11:04 PM
Hello Mad Max,
Look for a Merkur XR4TI with 5 speed.
You could possibally buy the hole car cheeper than gathering parts.
The XR has a stand alone F.I. harness.
From Pintony
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 19, 2006, 10:13:48 PM
BTW, if the engine you have now has cast pistons you might want to consider doing a whole engine swap.
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: madmax96101 on April 20, 2006, 10:04:33 PM
what i wold like to do is rebuild the whole engine and change things on it. like the turbo and fuel injection. i would like to know what parts it would take to switch from carb ministock engine to that. like if there is an intake to set up for multi point fuel injection. i still need to do research and want to know if anybody hs done this kind of thing before and what they used. thank you guys for the help.
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: sspncr on April 20, 2006, 11:02:02 PM
Try looking for running , ( not nessicarially driveable )  late 80's ranger p/u,  find one with the 2.3 FI, and there's your builder , and harness.  I don't know about where your at, but I've seen the ranger's go fairly cheap, mostly due to rusted out.
                                                    sspncr
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: 77turbopinto on April 21, 2006, 07:36:07 AM
I am the fourth person to reply to this thread, and the fourth person to tell you that a swap is the way to go. If you want to re-build an engine for you car, I will still reccamend doing it with a turbo engine to start with, and from a full running donor. There are MANY things needed that are different for a turbo 2.3 (head, valves, pistons, exhaust, computer,...........), not to mention all the other parts you will need for the efi and turbo set-up(harness, many sensors, intake, t/b, air tubes, dissy, coil, vam,......). IMHO: A donor car will save you time and MONEY.

It's your project, do what you want, and how you want, I (we) am only giving the best advise/help I (we) can.

Check out the FAQ section on this topic.

Good luck,
Bill
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: SVOwagon on April 21, 2006, 12:18:49 PM
Go with a turbo engine.  You'll only have trouble if you don't.  A full donor car is the way to go... listen to guys who have done this before, we're here to help. ;D
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: madmax96101 on April 21, 2006, 01:47:01 PM
ok thank you guys for all of the info. i don't know where i could find a good motor like that though since my town is very small here. our population is around 3,000 people. the nearest town that would be good is 150 miles away. and they might not have one. thank you guys.
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 22, 2006, 01:12:33 PM
Just a little bit of info on 2.3 turbo motors. Ford used this method for selecting the blocks to set up for their turbo engines. If a 2.3 block was heavy, it became a turbo block............. ;D
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: 2point3turbo on April 23, 2006, 09:52:54 PM
I am also swaping over to the turbo. The only way to go would be the XR4TI donor car. It has all you need and is very simple to do. Currently I have my motor up to 300 hp and going up. It is in a Mazda RX7 for now but will be torn out this summer and put in its new home. I have many extra parts if you need any. Email me if you have any questions, I may be able to help. The turbo is the only way to go. Dont waste any time on V8 or naturaly asperated.
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: madmax96101 on April 23, 2006, 10:07:44 PM
sorry for the slow reply time. my internet went down the whole day yesterday. now it is up again. the only problem is if you have to modify the car at all to do this. does the motor bolt right up to the transmission or do you have to have an adapter plate. the reason i am asking this because my motor isn't in a pinto. it has already been modified to fit into the car and attach to the transmission. if you have to modify it to put into the car and work then i can't possibly do the swap. so if i can't do you guys know where there are 2.3 pinto turbos?
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: turbopinto72 on April 23, 2006, 10:17:07 PM
Quote from: 2point3turbo on April 23, 2006, 09:52:54 PM
I am also swaping over to the turbo. The only way to go would be the XR4TI donor car. It has all you need and is very simple to do. Currently I have my motor up to 300 hp and going up. It is in a Mazda RX7 for now but will be torn out this summer and put in its new home. I have many extra parts if you need any. Email me if you have any questions, I may be able to help. The turbo is the only way to go. Dont waste any time on V8 or naturaly asperated.

Is that 300 hp at the wheels or the motor? Tell us what parts you are using.
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: 2point3turbo on May 29, 2006, 01:31:10 AM
I have to confess.....I was told it had 300hp at the motor. I am going to get it on the dyno when it is running in the Pinto. I am currently finishing the intercooler piping and will then move to the last step with the wiring(mostly done). The head has Ranger cam and have another getting cleaned up for port and polish next week with stainless valves. Intake has been knife edged, twisted to front and gutted upper with 65mm throttle body. Intercooler is 32in 3in in and out. 3in exhaust all the way from turbo to muffler. Boosted at 19psi with BOV and fully rebuilt T3/T4 spools up fully at 1700rpm. 35# injectors. I may have missed a few things so if it dont all add up then I dont know what to say. Like I said...I was "Told" it had 300hp but will test on dyno when Pinto is up and running again. N2O to come soon as T5 conversion is done so hopefully I will have the 300hp it was claimed to have. Hope to not piss anyone off with the claims or anything I might say in the future. Not so good with words, just tooo much excitement when it comes to the Pinturbo!
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: turbopinto72 on May 29, 2006, 01:36:58 PM
Well, It sounds like you are on your way to a great car. Please post your dyno sheet when you get it back from the dyno.
Thanks
Title: Re: turbo and fuel injection
Post by: 2point3turbo on May 31, 2006, 11:55:46 PM
I just got done fitting the pipes for that huge intercooler. I will get the wiring done next week and hopefully get all the bugs out in a few days. I will definately get the dyno print out on here when it gets to that point.