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Shiny is Good! => Your Project => Topic started by: itmayblow on February 20, 2006, 11:08:12 AM

Title: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on February 20, 2006, 11:08:12 AM
hi every one i have a question? let me give you a little back story my friend has a hot 67 mustang he always brags a bout. you problem know where this is going . One day I was telling him about a v8 pinto and he laughed so we made a bet. I bet I could take junk yard parts and make a wicked car. the next day I bought a 1971 pinto runabout. dose any one have a list of cars and parts I can take from those cars to make a  v8 pinto. I can only use junk yard parts.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: Tude on February 20, 2006, 11:42:57 AM
im sure some where out there in that junk yard you can find things like a high rise intake, cowl induction hood scoop, headers............

if using all stock stuff

302- i would look for mustangs

351W- i would look for 80s 150

351m/400 ford cars and trucks older than 80 or 81on the trucks and 79 and older cars, the 79 ltd will have a small block not sure about the 79 merc but i know 78 had them, 79 and older linc had them also

460- ford trucks f250 and bigger i think 90ish and older, 77 or 78 they quit putting them in lincolns

-just kind of depends on what all your using list the motor and i could tell ya what to look for and what your looking for
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on February 20, 2006, 11:53:05 AM
well I was thinking a 351 or 302 right now its a v4 what type of cars do I look for for trans and rear end.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: Tude on February 20, 2006, 12:02:57 PM
well depends on what your looking for

aod trannys came in 79 and newer ltds, 79 or 80 mercs, 80 and newer lincolns

c-6 i would look for some older cars(old iron back befor they knew what plastic was on the out side of them) , or 80s f150s

c-4- i think they came in 77-79 cougars and ?.......?

3 speed- 60-66 trucks (3 on the tree), and i think a granada they had them

4 speed -ford trucks

Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: Tude on February 20, 2006, 12:07:31 PM
are you leaving the leaf springs or putting a 4 link rear in it?

80s f150s came with 8.8s and 9 inches leaf spring

77-79 cougars/t-birds had 3 link or 4 link 9 inches in them

79-91(and i think newer) cars had 8.8s in them 4 link

off the top of my head i cant remember a whole lot  :sorry:
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on February 20, 2006, 02:48:16 PM
I was thinking about an 8.8 or 8 inch rear do i have to shorten it? I was also thinking a bout using leaf springs. Are there any cars that i can take the drive shaft from, that will bolt up with no modification?
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: 78jr racer on February 20, 2006, 05:41:32 PM
for ease of installation stick with the 8"
74-78 mustang ii
74-80 pinto, bobcat
if wanting 5x4.5 bolt pattern, maverick 8" & 9" both are the right width just have to modify lower shock bracket and use u-bolts from maverick. that is the rear end we use in our circle-burners.
hope it helps.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: krazi on February 21, 2006, 01:14:21 AM
don't forget, you'll need a front sump oil pan.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: 77turbopinto on February 21, 2006, 06:47:55 AM
Have you looked in the FAQ section????

Bill
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on February 21, 2006, 12:40:08 PM
yes there is a really good v8 section but i was wondering what all cars in a junk yard i could get the parts from.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: bob55 on February 21, 2006, 08:33:32 PM
Probably asked many times before, are the Mustang II and Maverick 8" axles interchangeable?
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: 77turbopinto on February 21, 2006, 09:50:21 PM
Well, the Mustang II is the only car for the v8 stuff, but not all the parts are "bolt-in". You will need to modify some parts, and you might have make others along the way, and as far as the rear goes, you don't HAVE to change it to install the V8, it just won't last long. That might save you some time and money for now.

Bill
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on February 24, 2006, 09:47:34 AM
Well I got my motor and trans today, thanks to a sad f 150.
and this weekend I pull out the old and in with the new
hopefully. About how long dose it take to get the motor and trans fit in the car not hooked up but just in. And yes in case your wondering I have my bfh ready.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: Tude on February 24, 2006, 12:53:28 PM
welll i think it only takes about 10 - 20 seconds to get it in not bolted up  :text_yb_lol:

Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on March 03, 2006, 10:30:33 AM
I hit a small wall last night. motor and trans mounts  I cant find mustang 2 ones anywhere and no clue what to use on the trans.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: dirt track demon on March 03, 2006, 10:34:56 AM
What are all the rules for this bet???  If you can only use junkyard parts, is there a fine print clause that says you cant modify them???  Cut up a couple mounts and weld the thing solid to the frame.  I take it this is just a bet to see if it can be done, or are you wanting to keep and drive the thing after the bet is won???????
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on March 03, 2006, 11:12:57 AM
I was gonna drive it on weekends when it was done.
Some parts I can buy new belts hoses and so on. I think I can sneak away to the local auto zone and get away with that. but if I win the bet that I can build a pinto  and it can run , drive and be some what quick then I get 500 dollars. I know i am gonna spend more then that getting a car together but its more of saying ha i told you so. O and I an not really supposted to modify as little as possible.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: itmayblow on March 03, 2006, 11:32:32 AM
would v8 maverick motor mounts work ?
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: dirt track demon on March 03, 2006, 12:12:44 PM
Not without modifying them.
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: 71hotrodpinto on March 04, 2006, 04:21:22 PM
:welcome:
Your best bet at this point is to unearth the last V8 Mustang II left in junkyards and grab the exhaust manifolds, front sump oil pan, frame mounts and rubber motor mounts, V8 downshift rod and all the carb linkage. Also get the flexplate, trans converter,dipstick tube and bellhousing .Hell might as well pull the whole dam assy from waterpump to rearend and just rebuild the engine and trans.
Then put your original 71 back together ,sell it, and then get a 74 for your project.  :sorry: They have more engine clearance for the radiator.(I know from experience!) they are lighter still than the later models and you don't have to smog in California at that year.
My V8 '71 has been a Challenge to say the least to keep the radiator under the hood and above the front valance. And I stayed completely away from the junkyard for anything. All ebay. LOL
  But you still have to put the new radiator in front of the where the old radiator sat. Ive heard that it might be possible to use the Mustang II radiator but theres some debate over that.
A V6 Pinto 8 incher will bolt up like it was made to and the stock C4 pinto drive shaft allthough it might not be good for dragstrip antics with slicks and 400 hp it will do fine if its rebuilt with new high quality u-joints.

Really thats the only junkyard stuff that Ive ever heard of working.

Unfortunately since Mustang II's have there own group of people that love them they don't like hearing about how we Pinto guys "take there stuff" to make our cars cooler and quicker. Although IV'E never heard of anyone getting mad about it.
Uno on another note your friend shouldnt argue with physics. The power to wieght ratio with a v8 pinto is superior for acceleration given the same horspower etc. How can you argue with that??
Good luck Dont give up!
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: ford guy on March 23, 2006, 11:58:30 AM
get a 70 351-c  as in cleveland   but you can forget junk yard stuff.

eng ok build it up  450/480 hp  reverse manual c4 

but you dont want to go pro street do you .
they are fun  .have had 1 i built.

now building a 460 2x4  in a converted  pinto wagon

this will be super pro street
but the 351-c  has hp galore  not cheap  but more than 289/302/351-w
if serious e mail me  johisaree@yahoo.com
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 26, 2006, 12:26:05 PM
Quote from: ford guy on March 23, 2006, 11:58:30 AM
get a 70 351-c  as in cleveland   but you can forget junk yard stuff.

eng ok build it up  450/480 hp  reverse manual c4 

but you dont want to go pro street do you .
they are fun  .have had 1 i built.

now building a 460 2x4  in a converted  pinto wagon

this will be super pro street
but the 351-c  has hp galore  not cheap  but more than 289/302/351-w
if serious e mail me  johisaree@yahoo.com

I think he was specifically doing a junk yard engine car??? BTW why do you keep promoting reverse manual c4 transmissions??? ( especially for the street? )
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: ford guy on March 26, 2006, 10:53:44 PM
hi wayne here well if you have to go to bone yards  you might think why are they in there.

but this  stuff about 351-w  go to 69 fords  they have very good heads with 56 cc  chambers  instead of 76 /80 cc  its called compression.

i have e mailed you  but you can if you want to do it [pinto]  real good then
go all the way  pro street it 
for 5,999 you can get a 408  400 hp +  bolt right in  c4  stock auto drive shaft

now get get down get serious 4 link sub frame  coil overs fuel cell  9 inch locker
4:11 gears  6 point cage or 8 point
i just happen to have a set of frame rails already made up
2x3 box .o86 wall  enough for  600 plus hp
WILL SALE  WANT A NARROWED REAR  CAN DO.
WAYNE : WE WILL SEND IT UPS OR FREIGHT           JOHISAREE@YAHOO.COM
WAYNES CHASSIS WORKS
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: ford guy on March 26, 2006, 11:05:57 PM
first get away from any thing with smog  a truck old ford 69 351-w your best eng

hook it to a c4   if the eng is sound  .you can easily pull 400 hp
a good reverse manual  c4 use a stock auto drive shaft from a pinto

a very good starting point.  wayne
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: turbopinto72 on March 26, 2006, 11:39:15 PM
Quote from: ford guy on March 26, 2006, 11:05:57 PM
first get away from any thing with smog  a truck old ford 69 351-w your best eng

hook it to a c4   if the eng is sound  .you can easily pull 400 hp
a good reverse manual  c4 use a stock auto drive shaft from a pinto

a very good starting point.  wayne

Here we go again with the reverse manual C4............ :what:
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: 78pinto on March 26, 2006, 11:41:20 PM
at least he didn't say "drop a 460 in that badboy" ;D
Title: Re: question for all the pinto people
Post by: dirt track demon on April 01, 2006, 10:40:11 AM
At least he hasnt tried to convince the derby guys to put 460's in their derby cars. :D