Hey,
I was wondering what the easiest route to go with if I was interested in swapping a manual transmission into my 78' v6 pinto wagon. Is there anything that would bolt right up?
There were no V6 pinto/bobcat cars offered with a manual transmission to my knowledge.
If you can find one from a Mustang II, that would be the closes fit.
You would need the flywheel as well.
You will need the clutch pedal from a Pinto.
The cable from a Mustang II??
Should be the same trans. as the 4cyl, different bellhousing tho. maybe a 5spd from a 2wd V6 Ranger? the 2.9 is the same engine as the Pinto 2.8 (I've heard that the 4.0 is it's "kissin cousin")
The Ranger has a hydraulic operated clutch which might not be an easy route to go, if you are trying to stay simple.
Quote from: crazyhorse on November 23, 2005, 10:57:10 AM
Should be the same trans. as the 4cyl, different bellhousing tho. maybe a 5spd from a 2wd V6 Ranger? the 2.9 is the same engine as the Pinto 2.8 (I've heard that the 4.0 is it's "kissin cousin")
the 2.8 in the rangers isn't even the same as the 2.8 in the pintos. the cams are different, the journals are different. the 2.9 is a different beast than the 2.8. the 2.9 was loosely based on the 2.8 but not the same motor.(the cam journals are way different, the crank journals are different, different bore and stroke, different water pump housing, etc, etc, so on and so forth. heads wont interchange, intakes wont interchange( I wish they would, cause i found a really cool, fuel injected corvette looking intake for a 2.9, but it wont work on my 2.8 :'( :'(. oh well.
and yes the 4.0 is based on the 2.8 as well as the 3.0 and one other that i cant recall off the top of my head.
To Squid: the mustang II will be your best bet, they came factory with v-6's with 4-spds. there was a guy on this site that found me the whole set-up in CA from a mustang II, but it was too pricy for my budget, but it may fit yours.... I dont remember who it was, but if they read this and remember talking to me, maybe they will be nice enough to hook you up with the number for the junkyard that has it.
The 2.6, 2.8, 2.9 & 4.0 should have the same bolt patern at the bell housing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Cologne_V6_engine
bell housing to motor, or bell housing to transmission? some have a long input shaft some have a short one. the bell and tranny may slide together and bolt but does the input shaft match the flywheel and crankshaft combination. ive seen 3 identical ranger trannies laying side by side and they all had different input lengths. one of them the bells were roughly 3/8" different in the width from the motor side to the tranny side. Its just that weve gone thru hell over the years trying to match 2.8 and 2.9 stuff in the rangers, some times the switches worked but most times it just shizod the bed.!!!!! You can try it, i wish you the best of luck, and I wont say I told you so.
Heya Dirt Track. It was me you talked to. The name of the junkyard was Turners Auto Wreaking "http://www.turnersautowrecking.com/"
There is also the early capri manual transmission to consider.
Although those are externaly shifted.
From pintony
Hey squidd78v6,
I have a friend in Canada that has put Mustang 4cyl T-5s (Fox body) into V6 Pintos with great success. The list of parts used are:
Bellhousing: Mustang II V6 std trans bellhousing modified to accept the Pinto 4cyl clutch fork. Remove original shaft and fork assembly. Drill and tap boss inside housing to accept pivot ball. Hole cut in side of housing for fork clearance. (note: he has attempted to use the Mustang II clutch arm, but it required too much beating of the trans tunnel for clearance)
Flywheel: early Ranger/Bronco II 2.9L V6 with pilot bearing in the flywheel. The reason for this is that the T-5 input shaft is shorter than the Mstg II V6 std trans. With the bearing in the flywheel, it makes up for the difference and the bearing is the proper size for the T-5.
Clutch: Pressure plate-Ranger/Bronco II 2.9; Disc: 8 1/2(std) or 9"(turbo) from a 2.3L Fox Mustang
Driveshaft: Pinto V6 w/C-4 trans bolts right up.
Some modification will have to be made to the shifter hole in the floor as the shifter will be forward of the original hole. I forget which mount he used, but I believe it was from the 4 cyl Fox Mustang. The slots in the Pinto crossmember have to be elongated and the mount bolts up.
If you have any questions, let me know and I'll find out for you.
thanx 69GT. Good job on the info 79panel.