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Title: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: pintoperformance on November 02, 2003, 09:41:40 AM
WHAT WOULD BE THE WILDEST ENGINE SWAP INTO A PINTO--

1.  BUICK SMALLBLOCK NAILHEAD
MY BROTHER HAS ONE A 215 cid ALUMINUM BLOCK V8 NAILHEAD IN HIS VEGA AND IT IS REALY COOL-HAS A 4 SPEED BEHIND IT..

Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: 8upwithpinto on November 03, 2003, 03:21:44 PM
How about a Tarus SHO 3.4 DOHC V8? 8)
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: 72 sedan on November 03, 2003, 08:26:22 PM
No contest here. That would be the 500 HP motor in the new FORD GT; 11.7 in the quarter and top speed of 195mph. Total package! Quick, Fast, and street worthy! Now imagine that in a pinto!
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: 8upwithpinto on November 04, 2003, 11:28:07 AM
That tops me by far.....Good idea though! ;D
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: TurboPintoDude on December 03, 2003, 08:07:17 PM
How about either the Zetec motor, or one of the Mercruser motors with the 460 head on it? That would be different. I still like the idea of the Volvo DOHC head on the 2.3 block though...
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: pinto_351 on January 11, 2004, 11:09:03 PM
I know it been awhile since the posting but i cam up with a couple.  1) ford flathead, 2) the whole front cradle from a focus (thoughts of a front wheel drive pinto sickens me but definately different, 3) one of those big v12 or v16 early fighter plan motors.  May have to extend the front end for that one.

Brad
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: fomogo on January 12, 2004, 06:49:13 AM
I was looking at doing a twin turbo V6 SHO engine in a pinto.
Easier than it sounds at first.


Jim
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: crazyhorse on January 12, 2004, 02:06:22 PM
How about a powerstroke diesel? with a 5.00 gear.... talk about an 1/8mi screamer!!!  I've seen upgrades for 500+ HP and 600+ft/lbs torque. If a 3.80 gear were used think how 600ft/lbs would pull that?
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: pintoperformance on January 15, 2004, 11:11:04 AM
How about a MOPAR 318 (there are thousands of these engines available at boneyards) or maybe a 273 or 340..

hooked up to a 727 transmission...How about the Dodge Slant Six--they can be Hot Rodded --Clifford 4-6-8 has all types of cams etc for these engines....

Mike
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: spro_71pinto on January 17, 2004, 02:08:35 AM
I say we just call up ole' john force himself and plant fuel motor in it. then all you would need is a diaper(depends) ;D
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: Underdog76 on January 17, 2004, 04:21:04 PM
Hey, that's my idea! only without the John Force part :)
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: reflexr on January 21, 2004, 12:35:41 AM
I know-- I'll donate the 320 horse DOHC 4.6 and 5 speed from my Cobra!!! Hell, I'll even throw in the 8 inch IRS rear end! May have to shorten the driveshafts(3), but a little extra cash spent! The stereo and seats sure would be nice!

Hee hee
Joey
Title: Re:WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: Pinto_Guy on February 03, 2004, 10:51:03 PM
I'm in the middle of putting a 500ci Caddy in a runabout.

I also have a wagon that I am getting tired of kids on Go-Peds beating me light to light, That car may get a Supercoupe engine that I have sitting under the work bench after the Caddy/Jag swap.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: douglasskemp on December 04, 2006, 08:48:44 PM
Wow.  Some very interesting ideas, but who here is sick enough to try to put an all-wheel drive setup out of a WRX or Volvo or old Eagle Talon?  I might try to do it to the old Mustang II Ghia I own that I haven't decided what to do with yet.  Maybe I can call it Quadradeuce...wait...somebody already did that...dang.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: wingless01 on December 04, 2006, 10:02:21 PM
a perkins/ cat diesel 4cyl, like in the cat backhoes and small rollers.  Their not much bigger than the 2.3 so it could fit, its just a question of how you bolt a tranny to it.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: Srt on December 05, 2006, 02:43:54 AM
how about a 16 cylinder turbo diesel out of a late model GE locomotive.  6000 hp at only 1100-1200 rpm.  oil changes might be a bear though at 400 gallons.  now....who has a shoe horn?
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: crazyhorse on December 05, 2006, 07:36:42 AM
AWD? Hmmmm I've thought about that. Take a 4.0L Ranger engine, add the T-bird SC blower. Back it up with an AOD from an Aerostar AWD. Use a shortened GM S-10 front diff, put the brakes on the axle, then halfshafts to the wheels. How does inboard front brakes sound? Put in a Jag rear end, for a fully independent suspension.

I'm thinking about 400hp, a setback for the engine of about 8in. 50-50 weight distribution, look out 'Vettes, & Vipers! Oh yeah & that includes the Z-06's & Henneseys!
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: krazi on December 05, 2006, 10:14:14 PM
I've been thinking about the flathead out of my dad's '48 ford coupe. needs work though.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: cromcru on December 06, 2006, 03:49:15 AM
for my crazy engine. i would use a 47-49 studebaker front sump champion six. with either a chevy s-10 fivespeed manual trans or a custom adapter plate for a c4/c5 auto.right now in waiting for tax time so i can pick up another motor.the champ six is very close to the same dimensions of a 2.3 ford pinto motor.so why not be different. for carbs i would use a custom intake and adapter to use two , one barrel sidedraft minuki carbs. plus all the other goodies still being made for the trusty champ.  :welcome:
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: bluefordpinto on December 06, 2006, 09:14:28 PM
i dont wanna piss on anybody's thought bubble, but a diesel engine would be too heavy, streching the body and frame for a v-12 or v-16 is just stupid, and once you get down to it, the DOHC v-6 out of a taurus is just as good as the v-6 in the pinto. what i would like to see is the 6.4l ford triton V-10. with a monster butt blower, and a beefy rear end, the only problem i would see is re-locating the radiator to the rear to make more "room" and since some guys started talkin about diesels, maybe a 6.0l international used in todays ford trucks would work, its fairly light for a diesel. and is capapble of making gobs of power and torque. the gears be turning in our heads. now, who can make it real? any takers?
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: Gaslight on December 07, 2006, 08:02:19 AM
How about a Lexus 1UZFE 4 OHC all aluminum V8 with a W58 5 speed transmission hooked up with a AEM EMS standalone?  The LS400 has a front sump that will fit the Pinto crossmember perfectly.

Jake
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: FCANON on December 07, 2006, 08:43:42 AM
I've been kicking around making a turbo diesel 2.3 backed by a overdrive auto..Putting it into a Pinto Ranchero with smoke stacks....But I would have to narrow a dually rearend from a minitruck just to increase the kewl factor....please no applause

Frank

Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: Original74 on December 07, 2006, 01:42:33 PM
Frank, I did just about that in 1980!. I bought a brand new naturally aspirated 60 HP Isuzu diesel engine, backed it with a Chevy Luv 4 speed. Made a tractor out of that Pinto! I pulled a 2000 lb pop-up tent trailer all over the place with that car. And it got 40 MPG to boot! You talk about a blast at the truck pumps!

Dave
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: FCANON on December 07, 2006, 02:08:41 PM
Did I mention I would keep the woodgrain and piant it purple?

I have looked at the 85 and up Desiel motors in the Ford rangers... Turbocharge Mitisbushi's I think but 2.3L displament...
the heads on these are a small fortune...

Frank
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: DragonWagon on December 07, 2006, 10:04:49 PM
How about a blown hemi motor in the back seat? Maybe set it up similar to how the mid engine Fiero works? I mean, we are talking INSANE, right?   :hypno:
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: little thunder on December 30, 2006, 07:59:25 PM
Here's the wild one, a 71 with a 427 SOHC with a 871 GMC blower with two huge turbo and  air to water intercoolers!
would that be a wild street car or what?

                                                   little  thunder
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: wagonmaster on December 31, 2006, 02:19:45 PM
"the DOHC v-6 out of a taurus is just as good as the v-6 in the pinto"

bluefordpinto,

Have you ever driven a V6 Pinto and a V6 Taurus SHO? I've had a few V6 Pintos and got to drive a friend's SHO. The SHO V6 would run circles around the 2.8L V6 in the Pinto/Mstg II. The SHO will wind up to RPMs that, if the 2.8 could even do it, would make the 2.8 self destruct. If I had the funds to do so, I would attempt a SHO swap into the Pinto for the power and the exotic look of the engine.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: crazyhorse on December 31, 2006, 06:39:22 PM
Anyone ever hear of a small car called the "SHOgun"?
How about a Taurus Sho engine where the back seat used to be?
They did this to a Festiva, how about a Pinto?
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: Original74 on December 31, 2006, 07:27:40 PM
Hey Crazyhorse,

I had never heard of the SHOgun until 2004 when the guy who designed it showed up with one at a car show I attended here in Tulsa. I understand only 6 of these things were made, and Jay Leno owns 2 of them.

Dave
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: earthquake on January 02, 2007, 10:20:31 AM
One I saw in an old magazine, banks Twin turbo setup on a 494 in ford BB.A 1500 HP street machine made in 1974 using a 72 sedan totally street legal.Even had air conditioning.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: dave1957 on January 19, 2007, 12:34:33 PM
how about a pratt and whitney p 51 radial engine :q:
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: pintoguy76 on January 19, 2007, 12:47:26 PM
How about an all electric pinto? teehee. Electric motors make the same brake hp as a gasoline engine making two to three times the hp. so a 50 hp electric motor would produce the same power as a 100-150hp gasoline engine. And you can get the motor in a small size anymore and to run on a relativly low voltage. you'd just have to load the trunk and the back seat and everything else up with batteries so it would have a decent reserve capacity. LOL. Hey we said wild and insane... this would be it. I like the idea about the diesel pinto tho. I've thought about that myself.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: postalpony on January 19, 2007, 05:38:33 PM


    In reply to dave 1957

     P-51 Mustangs never had P&W radials.  They were originally equipped with 1710 cubic inch Allison V12's.

    This engine was replaced with the Rolls Royce Merlin V12 for better performance at higher altitudes.

    Either of these engines would make an insane swap!!!!!  Driven from the rear hatch or bumper seat?

         :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:


      Dick
   
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: bluefordpinto on January 19, 2007, 06:23:25 PM
Im not much of a chevy fan, but i noticed a while back Chevrolet introduced a Hybrid Silverado pickup with theri 5.7l v-8. Its rear wheel drive, and hauls anything the truck is capapble of. I spoke with the owner of one and says he hauls his camper toy trailer loaded with his 3 quads, and sandrail no problem up hills. I havent gotten a good look at the truck, so im not sure how it works. but hybrid pinto, with that much tourqe and power would be insane.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: jimskatr103 on January 19, 2007, 11:48:54 PM
My honda loving friend wants me to put an f20c engine out of a Honda S2000 in one of my sitting pintos.  DOHC VTEC!! and a 9,000 redline!!
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: pintoguy76 on January 20, 2007, 12:36:19 PM
Quote from: jimskatr103 on January 19, 2007, 11:48:54 PM
My honda loving friend wants me to put an f20c engine out of a Honda S2000 in one of my sitting pintos.  DOHC VTEC!! and a 9,000 redline!!

That post is so insane it should be deleted from the forum and your mind.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: jimskatr103 on January 20, 2007, 09:05:10 PM
sorry!!
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: 71hotrodpinto on January 20, 2007, 11:27:08 PM
I vote for a 427 SOHC engine with a "modern" all aluminum block, stroked to the max 500+cubes, 1471funny car supercharger,one of those nasty bug catchers from a funny car as well. All EFI'ed and running on E85.( 2000+HP) Pluss lets put a pro stock trans in there.
Oh yea while were dreaming lets keep the car relativly stock cept for the hood ( or lack of it) and keep it all steel with headlights, turnsignals and full interior.

mmmmmmmmmmmmmm tasty :hypno: :2fast4u:
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: earthquake on January 21, 2007, 01:11:27 PM
MORE POWER UHUHUHUHUHUHUH.
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: dholvrsn on January 22, 2007, 12:10:43 PM
This guy was giving me wonderfully horrible (and expensive) ideas:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270070188662&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RUPX_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=270077834938&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270070188662&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RUPX_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=270077834938&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget)

And this guy too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320070409418&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320070409418&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011)
But how would you connect it to a car drivetrain?  :o
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: pintoguy76 on January 23, 2007, 12:29:23 AM
Quote from: dholvrsn on January 22, 2007, 12:10:43 PM
This guy was giving me wonderfully horrible (and expensive) ideas:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270070188662&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RUPX_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=270077834938&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270070188662&ssPageName=MERC_VIC_RUPX_BIN_Stores_IT&refitem=270077834938&itemcount=4&refwidgetloc=closed_view_item&usedrule1=UpSell_LogicX&refwidgettype=cross_promot_widget)

And this guy too:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320070409418&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320070409418&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011)
But how would you connect it to a car drivetrain?  :o


Anything can be done with enought money lol
Title: Re: WILDEST INSANE ENGINE SWAP
Post by: pinto_one on January 27, 2007, 08:11:16 PM
seen it done before but on a larger scale, But may be very easy If you had a pinto wagon and two of those SHO V-8 high out put engines , some welding  skills , (a good friend that works in a header factory that oues you a big favor) run the 16 pipes out the rear bumper, etc . nice , 4WD , nearly 500hp, shut down one engine for gas mileage,  priceless