Well group, High_Horse has been steadily at it. It seems as though this is the only thing I have been doing in my spare time. But Dammit if I don't keep at it....Well you all know what happens. Anyway I did undertake the coating of the engine compartment and down into the trans well all the way back to the trans members and out to the frame. 1 coat of stop rust,1 coat of vapor barrier and two coats of gray rustoleum. I did all I could that I could not do with the Engine/trans assembly installed.
I have been assembling the engine/trans assembly in a cradle that I built on the floor. My goal was to have as much together as possible when I installed it in the car. This I feel makes things easy if i decide to pull it out in the future.
Well it looks like it is ready to go in. Vacuum modulator and line,neutral safety switch,exhaust manifolds and pipes,rear pipe mount,starter motor and the fittings I will need for the tranny cooler.
The motor goes airborn.
Round and round she goes..........................
And it's time to send this baby home.
I have got a ways to go but am hard at it. Check out my power steering pump and alternater mounts.
GOOOOOOOOOOOO Pintoooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nice Job High Horse!
I love to see those shots of the flying engines.
I wouldnt have believed it that you could install a V8 W/tranny and exhaust all at 1 time in a Pinto.
Keep us posted on your progress and send more photos!!!!!!
From Pintony
Thank you Pintony. I have been an Industrial Maintenance MultiCraft for 25+ years and if there was one thing that I was going to do was have this thing Maintenance friendly. I wiggled it in with a two points of interest. #1-That little tit-nipple used for trans shift linkage has to be pointed to the trans direction because it dug into my paint job in the trans tunnel. #2-The rear trans cooling line fitting (which I 90 degreed down) had to be the shortest I could get so it would not havehooked onto the rear trans mount unibody halo structure. Other then that I believe I could have done it with the intake manifold on. Definitly would not have happened with the crank pulley on though. Whattever men say a 302/c4 assembly will fit into a Pinto are right but it is like getting a size 8 fat foot into a size 8 narrow shoe.
I want more pics. ;D
Lookin really good.
Are there any particular pics you would like to see????????????
A side shot of the installed engine would be nice. One showing the exhaust manifold clearences. How about the trans mount?
Anything Pinto would be good too. ;D
Thanks.
Quote from: High_Horse on July 04, 2005, 03:51:08 AM
I have got a ways to go but am hard at it. Check out my power steering pump and alternater mounts.
GOOOOOOOOOOOO Pintoooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like the idea that you have not removed the top rail of the radiator support. What radiator do you intend to use?
Mark
1974 Blakley Bantum Pinto Kit Car
1978 Bobcat Wagon "Panel Wagon" Project
1979 Pinto Hatchback 3.8L V6 Project
1980 Bobcat V8 Project
I am using a 2 core v6 radiator that I got from arrowheadradiators online. Check out the radiator thing in Ask an expert by madscientist for my input. I am currently work in progress with the radiator I am in the process of constructing/molding a silicone mount system which I am photo documenting and will share down the line.
Hey Glassman here are some more pics..................................
More pics Glassman.....................................
And more pics..........
More Pics..............
Great pics. thank you.
ThunderPinto is lifted off the ground in anticipation of startup(which should happen next weekend). I finally got the radiator mounted and it is snug as a bug in a rag. I picked up a couple of electric fans today and will be spending the week getting them mounted and begin sizing the exhaust system but I will be starting this thing with open pipes. There is a chevy guy down the street always making noise so I am going to throw some back at him. Ha!!!!!!! Notice the prestart check list taped to the windsheild.
Hey High_Horse,
Hope I'm not jinx-ing you... BUT do you have fully charged extinguishers.
NOTICE I did not say the "F" word.
I learned the hard way once. Just once!!!!
Now I have them all over and in each car I own "that runs" ;D
From Pintony
Point well taken. I did not think of that. I wiil put that on my pre-start list. Was there something specific I should watch for? Or, are you speaking about the general fuel ignition thing. Thanx for the reminder.
High_Horse
Hey High_Horse,
Having never done the V8 swap... I wouldn't even know...
I was speeking just in the general safety of You, Your family, your Pinto, and your garage.
My check list has a fully charged extinguisher as #1 on the list.
Also A REAL close eye on your water temp when you put the key to your Pinto.
Still tring to avoid the F-word.
As I just did my Turbo 2.0 start-up I know that my guage quickly reached 200deg and I shut it off.
I made sure the thermostat was working but it still stuck a bit.
After I cooled the engine. I restarted and the temp went to 165 and fell several times before seting at about 168 on the guage.
Who knows??? I might have burnt up a NEW engine W/O the gauge???
Oil Pre-lube is always a good idea.
Lots of pre-start lube on the lifters and bearings. BUT I'm sure you have that covered already.
And as discussed in a different topic a fresh load of oil after about 20 minuets of break-in.
From Pintony
Got it!!! I will be starting without a thermostat to avoid air pockets. I have no gauges installed at all so I will have to feel the forhead. I am starting with Castrol 10W40 and a dash of STP. You are correct to assume that I have preformed a prelube workout and have about 2 minutes of cranking time on the engine before I even installed it. It is one of the tightest engines I have ever built and I am going to have to go slow. So close yet so far away.
High_Horse
High Horse,
Lots of Luck on your startup! Make some noise prior to that choking exhaust install I say ;D.
NO THERMOSTAT!!!! NOT A GOOD IDEA!!!!
The water/coolant will move too fast to cool the block.
The block might overheat before the water gets hot.
But I am sure you already know that.
The radiator is mounted and the fans are mounted.....................
Hello High_Horse and group,
I get asked almost on a daily basis.. Why don't you put in a V8.
I think I will print out High_Horse's photos as my answer.
WOW!!! there is just NO ROOM on the V8 install.
I'd hate to try to do a V8 in a early Pinto.
From Pintony
All it takes is a stick of butter.
High Horse, great pics and info is very helpful! Remember for me again the type of fan you are using. I was leaning toward the 16" Summit electric that flow around 2000 cfm. Do you have any engine rebuild info that you could post. I'm about to tear into my 351 and would appreciate any pointers on cam and head choice since I too will be using exhaust manifolds (MII). Looking good and could you let us know the type of butter you used to make the install look easy ;D?
I saw an Advance Auto Parts ad that had cooling fans for around $45, also the newer Sable and Taurus cars have 2 really nice fans. I missed snagging a set on one of our wrecked rentals by a day. Should be able to find some at a junkyard.
Brian
Thanks for the tip on the cooling fans, Brian. I'll keep an eye out at the local yard ;).
I am using Hayden fans. I chose to go with two 10 inchers because they were thin enough to fit in without my having to modify or dispence with the hood latch assembly. We will see how they preform. They cost 50 apiece.
Thanks for the fan info. Do you know what CFM they push? The Summit 16" pushes 2,000cfm but is 4" deep. Do you know the approx depth on those?
The Hayden #3670 10" fans are 2 and 5/8th's inches thick which allows me to use my hood latch assembly just the way it is. Please keep it in mind Gearhead that I am using a v6 radiator with these fans. Theoretically I am breaking the rules. We will see. Please do not follow my configuration untill I have proven it to be effective or bolstered my needs because of a shortfall. The cfm on these fans is 650 freeflow or 500 through the radiator. Anyway I powered them up today and wow they are some spinning blowing sons of guns.