A nine inch rear end off of an 80's truck would fit a 76 pinto without too much trouble wouldnt it? I'm starting to look for stuff for my pinto, cause i'm getting the stock engine re-built for now, and am in the process of looking for a 302, 9 inch rear end, and a c4, possibly c6 tranny. I'm still in high school, so i'm gonna be getting these things one at a time, then installing them all at once. But i'm planning on buying used for the most part and rebuilding them, and putting in new gearsm and better stuff on them.
Andy; I'm not so sure an 80s truck rear will have the right width; however a rear from a 65 or 66 mustang will just about bolt right in. Also the later pinto's (mostly wagons) & the mustang II came with an 8"with the correct width. Their are several gear ratios for these. Good luck!!! ;)
Don't use a C6 unless you like to cut metal with fire (torch out firewall and trans tunnel) The C4 or C5 will handle all you can throw at it if its built right and they weigh alot less! Here is a picture of by buddies car with a 351w and a C6.....notice the firewall moved back, and you can't see it but the trans tunnel had to be cut out and made larger. Big pain in the butt! Jeff
thanks for the tip. the engine i'm looking at is about a 440 hp 302. so i wanna get something that can handle the power, and also is practicle to drive daily, and also a weekend warrior.
Ok, I guess I will answer this question. Get a 9" out of a 59 Ford wagon and it will bolt right in. It is only 1/2 wider than stock. Other than that you will need to shorten the housing and axles on any other year.
I put a 9 in rear end in mine. I was told it came out of a Comet or a Granada. It fit perfect. I put Richmond 3:88 gears in it. One problem I had were the breaks. The wheel cylinders are a bit bigger than the original ones so it feels like the peddle goes to the floor, but it still stops good.
can anyone tell me how wide the rearend would be?? from hub 2 hub?? cause found one that's 57.5 inch, but that seems long, and i dont have any stands for my car right now, cause my dad has the escort up.
If my memory is working i believe they are 52 inches backing plate to backing plate. We are going to use a mustang 8.8 on our next Pinto EFI project. I think its about 53 inches, close enough for me!
would it be worth the time and effort to find used axels, and get them useable or easier and better to get new ones?
Yes 52" backing to backing is correct. Used axles are fine if they are streight and the splines are good.
this should help yall out with any rear end pondering
http://www.carnut.com/specs/rear.html
i find it pretty helpful..............
Quote from: pimpin_pinto on September 17, 2003, 06:30:05 PM
A nine inch rear end off of an 80's truck would fit a 76 pinto without too much trouble wouldnt it? I'm starting to look for stuff for my pinto, cause i'm getting the stock engine re-built for now, and am in the process of looking for a 302, 9 inch rear end, and a c4, possibly c6 tranny. I'm still in high school, so i'm gonna be getting these things one at a time, then installing them all at once. But i'm planning on buying used for the most part and rebuilding them, and putting in new gearsm and better stuff on them.
I'm going with the 9" out of a Lincoln Versailles. It's 58 inches and 28 spline axles, it's also the only 9" rear that came with stock rear wheel disc brakes.
Problems i've encountered:
finding matching rotors. They've discontinued one side and they're vented to "grab" the air. Now you have to use a right for the left or a left for the right. It's wierd/stuipid.
My rear came without e-brake levers... I was warned at times this happens but i figured i'm a person that can find a needle in a haystack if i try. Fortunately i found that needle by going straight to a place that rebuilds calipers and talked them into giving them to me in a $40/caliper rebuild. That was gold to me.
All the hoses are rather expensive.. about 30-5 a piece and you need 3
I haven't installed it yet.... It's getting painted. I got 4.11 gears/posi in the hog head.
I've also machined the axles for a larger knurl (.615 in from Mosier 1/2's) wheel studs. I have currently spacers for the tires i have on and had to put in longer wheel studs to allow for the wheels to thread on... being i don't want to have to press everything off, risk destroy my wheel bearings and damage my caliper brackets it's worth the money.
One out of a junkyard should cost about 300 if you can find one. I got lucky finding one. They're getting scarce. I hear some other drum setups may work.
Here are common lengths of ford 9" rears off this link.
http://www.therangerstation.com/9InchAxles.html
Quote from: 71pintok on September 20, 2003, 10:15:20 AM
I put a 9 in rear end in mine. I was told it came out of a Comet or a Granada. It fit perfect. I put Richmond 3:88 gears in it. One problem I had were the breaks. The wheel cylinders are a bit bigger than the original ones so it feels like the peddle goes to the floor, but it still stops good.
Did you ever fix this? I'm dropping in the Versailles (rw disc) .I was curious about this as well. i bought a proportioning valve and am hoping that this helps being it will give more stoppping power proportionaly as supposed to to the front of the car.
I was thinking about possibly going to a larger master cylinder being i also plan on doing the granada/GM caliper front 5 lug larger rotor swap.
kmayle,
you'll need the master cylinder from the versailles the rear end came from. Disc brakes have larger pistons, using more fluid than drums. The stock Pinto unit won't have enough flow to make the pads touch the rotors
My reply would be that you should Tub the car and chop the rear down for some serious meat.. but thats just me ;D
Is there a ford rear end that came out of a Lincoln that has rear disc brakes that will bolt into a Pinto with no modifications??
Mike
no, afraid not...they are all way to wide!
We can dream of such an amimal though ;D
The Mark VIII LSC has got to be fairly close width wise, but mounting is all wrong.....and its an 8.8
even closer....SVO Mustang, 8.8 rear disk brakes, and 53 inches wide, only off by half an inch each side. Cut off mountings for Mustang, add Pinto Leaf perches.
I posted a seperate question with no answers, so maybe someone here will help me. I am looking for the lengths of Pinto rear leaf springs. The overall length, and the distance from front eye to center bolt. Thanks.
i'd love to help you but my car has been put away for the winter, anyone else help out here?
Quote from: 78pinto on November 13, 2003, 09:43:53 PM
The Mark VIII LSC has got to be fairly close width wise, but mounting is all wrong.....and its an 8.8
even closer....SVO Mustang, 8.8 rear disk brakes, and 53 inches wide, only off by half an inch each side. Cut off mountings for Mustang, add Pinto Leaf perches.
SVO's come with 7.5's, the Turbo Coupes have 8.8's though
i believe the later (85-86) SVO's came with 8.8 did they not? I'm almost 100% sure....but i wouldn't bet MY life on it
The Lincoln Versalles had factory rear disc's, and they are a direct bolt in. But, they are 8 in. not 9 and, the are few and far between.
Bill in WV
The Lincoln Versailles (sp?) was a nine inch rear, i know where there is one for sale about 5 minutes from my house, but its in Canada.
Here is a picture of my 9 inch.
the vesailles rear was popular for it's ease of swapping into the Fox Stang they used both 8.8 AND 7.5's with a 5bolt pattern. the 7.5's were on early cars. the 8.8's on later ones. just remember when swapping in disks you need the master cylinder as well as the proportioning valve.
there was an earlier versailles that had a 9" in it. That car was based on the Granada. i think it was a leaf spring car. I don't know what the width is on that, but i'd venture to say it's too wide for the Pinto.
Just double checked myself, the early versailles had small 5lug patterns the later had 4 lug on 41/2
hey 78pinto, what kinda car did you get that out of, and how much modifying did you have to do?
also, do you got disk or drums on there?
Hmmm, the housing is from a '72 ranchero, the pot is from a '68 Mustang, i was told it was cut down and has 8 inch axle tubes ends on it with 8 inch axles converted to 5 lug with drum brakes. I did not do it...but i know the fellow who did.
Hey twaters, I will measure my dads sunday and get back to you.
ok, the fox 'stang guys use ranger axles in thier 8.8 rears for 5lug. If the fox 'stang axle is only an inch wider, and the ranger axles fit, could the ranger rear end assembly go under a Pinto?
i'm guessing that the spring perches would have to move, and things like that. The housing should be useable in the pinto pretty much as-is. that would open the door to posi, limited slip, even lockers in the Pinto.
I think I've talked myself int being the guinea pig here ???
Now all i have to do is find out which bearings the ranger uses in the front disks........... :P
I've got a perfect 9" rear out of my 1977 F-100 Custom.It's already posi and everything.How much trouble would it be to shorten the sleeves and axles for it to fit under a Pinto?
Nightrain
I found that a 1979-1993 Mustang Fox Body 8.8" is about 54 inches backing plate-to-backing plate.Will this work if the mounts are done correctly?It's 2 inches wider than stock,but I don't think that will make much difference.It's just that the tires might stick out a wee bit more.These are plentiful in my area and it wouldn't be any trouble to get one for roughly $75-$100.Mustang II's are VERY rare around here and so are some of the other donors mentioned.A buddy of mine does have a MII in his backyard that he used for parts.The rear is gone,but the front sway bar is still there :D .I think that these will bolt directly into a Pinto.Am I right?Also,I can get a rear sway bar when I get the FB Mustang 8.8".I think that I want disc brakes :D .
Nightrain