I know there have been numerous postings on this subject, but I need the full instructions from somebody. I have a '78 Pinto 2.3. I also have a complete turbo setup from a T-bird TC. I will be putting the engine, 5 speed tranny, and driveline (shortened) with a 8" rear end. We have it att setting in the car, now it just needs to be wired. Does anybody have the wiring instructions for this application? I know it's been done, I just need to be put in contact with someone that has them. I am willing to pay for them if I need to. PLEASE HELP ME!
What do you have right now for a wiring harness? It's pretty well known by now that the Merkur harnesses are the easiest to get from the junkyards because they just kinda lay in there. I'm about to do this myself, and after having worked on the 2.3Ts for a while, I can tell you that turboford.org is your friend. Go there and SEARCH FOR THE ANSWERS. Use the search button. Everything you need to know is probably there. If not, try http://gt350r.stangnet.com. He's got almost every relevant document you might need for that you're doing. If you can't get it to work with those to sites, then... Well I dunno. Then maybe you're a Chevy 350 kinda guy, I guess. haha...
Good luck! Keep posting up here and I'll help you out the best I can, since I'm about -->||<-- that close to doing this myself.
And don't waste your time on shortening the driveshaft. The stock Mustang Fox chasis fits perfect.
Thanks for all the info so far. I am in Bremerton, WA but the car I am working on is in Roseburg, OR. The engine and everything else is in the car already, we just need to figure out how to wire all of the computer stuff. We have the original T-Bird wiring harness. We really want to leave everything as stock as possible but keep it as simple as possible. We have two Pinto's side by side with the Turbo Engines in them already, just waiting for wiring.
Just make sure your windshield is in tact or the bugs will get stuck in your teeth from smiling too much. ;D
SO IS THIS WIRING SWAP THING AS EASY AS IT LOOKS AND SOUNDS? JUST KIND OF HOOK THINGS UP LIKE THEY WERE IN THE T-BIRD? JUST SEEMS TOO EASY. I DON'T WANT TO HOOK UP SOMETHING WRONG AND MAKE THE COMPUTER LEAN THE ENGINE OUT OR SOMETHING. ANY ADVICE?
I'm in the same place you are racer 29. I got my engine dropped in mine two days ago. I don't have any answers for you yet but I will share anything I learn along the way and would appreciate any help you could send my way. I have the computer and the main harness that connects into it. I am missing the driver side of the harness that connects into the alternator and powers the computer. I think I'm going to have to buy a TC to figure the rest out. Does your harness go as far as the alternator? Do you have anything to connect up to the 8 pin connector that comes out of the harness right after the computer? What year TC motor are you working on?
The reason you might not be getting alot of help (details) is due to the many different harnesses/engines/cars/years out there. We (turbo pinto people) can only tell you what we did with the parts that we used at the time. We are not keeping it all a big secret, just there might be too many fine details for each case, and we don't want to give you any wrong info. I was asking all the same questions too, and did not get too much info and was told the same thing I am now telling you (all). I got both schm. side by side, and made notes of what I needed for each, and what was to be removed. Once I did that, it was much easier than I thought, and I am sure most of us 'tp' people will agree to that.
This is basicly what I did: I used an 86 engine/harness and put it in a 77 Pinto. I connected 2 fuse links (after tracing all of them to see if they went anywhere) and grounds from the engine harness, battery and starter relay, and made the mods to the harness that I described in my posts (again, please read them). I hooked up the white/blue wire to the dissy to the coil '+'.
Again, the best advise I can give is to get the schm. from both (Y,M,M) cars and compare. I don't know what the other harnesses/years/cars/engines have or don't have, or what color the wires are. I can't give the details for parts I never worked on, but I hope this helps.
Bill
If your ready to wire the turbo motor try and find a copy of the FORD FUEL INJECTION & ELECTRONIC ENGINE CONTROL.I call it the turbo bible.It has all the wire diagrams.There are two books ,one is for 1980 to 1987,and the other is for 1988 and up.The diagrams are easy to follow even for the simple minded like me.Yes the xr4ti harness is the best one to use.I've built two turbo pinto's one with the xr harness and one with an 88 turbo coupe harness.Both cars run strong,but the one with the xr harness was easier to figure out.You might be able to find a copy at your local Ford dealer or through Amazon.com.
Hello,
I am looking at doing a Turbo conversion as well but I am picking up a 76k mile 85 T-Coupe. Is there going to be any downfall to the non-electronic 2.3? I am trying to find out as much info as possible before taking the plunge.
Thanks
Bill is correct. There are just too many variables for a simple answer. And unfortunately different cars used different computers and different pin configurations at the computer.
Ideally you would use the same wire harness that came with the same engine and same computer. This is why a "complete" donor car can be so helpful. However, if your donor set up is 87-88 the harness is festooned with extra wires from the ride control and ABS among others. I spent DAYS dissecting mine. The car runs, but I still have about 15 wires I have yet to remove because they "might" be needed - and I'm not sure yet to cut them.
So, if you opt for the simplicity of the Merkur harness make sure you reallocate the pins at the computer. While you would think Ford would have made the pin configuration all the same from my readings they were all rather different and you have to get it right - the first time.
Therefore, you have to know the engine, harness and computer have schematics for all and do a lot of "tracing.
Sorry, but there is no simple answer, other than using a complete donor car and have everything the same. Even there you still have to intigrate the Turbo harness into the existing Pinto's.
The Turbo pinto swap is not the simple 2 on a scale of 10 as is often thought. I place it at a hard 7 on a scale of 10. But, my 88 T/C into a 73 wagon is one of the more difficult swaps.
Tom
Good pinout info here: http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/ecc%20pins%20all.doc (http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/ecc%20pins%20all.doc) (MS Word .doc)
Root directory http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/ (http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/) has lots of good info in the various files.
Mike
try these they helped me out
http://www.blindchickenracing.com/How_to/T-bird_install/t-birdwiring.jpg
http://www.therangerstation.com/tech_library/Turbos.html
http://www.rothfam.com/svo/reference/
or plug and play
http://www.turbojoe.com/
http://rjminjectiontech.com/?p=29