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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Mike Modified on August 17, 2011, 02:18:25 PM

Title: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Mike Modified on August 17, 2011, 02:18:25 PM
 
Running G/PRO (1.51L to 2.00L/Production) class:

(http://www.bangshift.com/assets/galleries/6146/bonneville_speedweek_2011_146.JPG)

Pic from bangshift.com

Comments from landracing.com:

"I talked to the Pinto crew breifly on Sunday.  2 liter Pinto motor with 1.6 liter euro Pinto head.  The ports are higher and it is ported.
If your a 2 liter freak you know the 2 liter head with a lot of custom porting is still not the best for making HP."

"Reference the Pinto motor, in mainland Europe they did a 1300cc version, maybe better still for porting for max HP. Did have one for a while and considered Drag racing it, in the end a Rally Car team offered too much money to refuse."

First run was probably on Tuesday.  Official results are only up thru Monday.

Will update as available.

Mike


Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: FCANON on August 17, 2011, 02:20:23 PM
That's living the dream...

FrankBoss
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Stuwil on August 17, 2011, 07:59:57 PM
this is way cool
too bad one of the headlights couldn't have been a scoop rather then a dam
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Mike Modified on August 18, 2011, 10:28:26 AM
SCTA Production rules require a stock body with all normal items intact.  The only modifications allowed are a hood scoop and cut-out wheel wells.

Three runs on Tuesday.  1st was "rookie run": 85.295 mph.  2nd was an early turn-out with no time recorded.  3rd had a top speed of 88.805 mph.

I hope that they have more in reserve, the class record is 156.818 mph.

Mike
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Mike Modified on August 18, 2011, 12:09:58 PM
There's a second 2-liter Pinto out there!  Made a rookie run on Tuesday with no speed: a "turn out".

Pictures from www.landracing.com (http://www.landracing.com) (Ray Therat) (note the driver!):

Mike

Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: ahawes on August 18, 2011, 02:29:15 PM
Pretty sure my tired old stock 2.0 could do better than 88 with some different gears... Awful lot of work for such lackluster results.
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: dick1172762 on August 18, 2011, 03:41:10 PM
After seeing what that guy does out of a wheelchair, you should hang your head in shame. If your so fast, why arn't you out there?
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: turbopinto72 on August 18, 2011, 04:25:09 PM
Quote from: ahawes on August 18, 2011, 02:29:15 PM
Pretty sure my tired old stock 2.0 could do better than 88 with some different gears... Awful lot of work for such lackluster results.

I love it when people mouth off about things they know nothing about... LOL.... :police:
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: sedandelivery on August 18, 2011, 05:31:15 PM
I like the "flag" paint job on the second Pinto. Looks cool!
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: old 1973 on August 18, 2011, 07:59:13 PM
I would have to agree with sedan delivery I too like the paint job on the second pinto!  It just goes to show you nothing can hold the pintos and their owners back. And doing it in an area so rich with history.
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: ahawes on August 18, 2011, 08:16:47 PM
OK, so doing a little better than half of what the record is is something they're excited about? There's no personal attacks in my post, it's a fact! 88 mph is not fantastic no matter how you slice it.

Why the thin skin here?
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: blupinto on August 18, 2011, 09:46:12 PM
I think both Pinto are neat. The flag one is prettier, but the other one looks simple and clean.


Speed-wise, I'm not gonna chime in here because I don't follow car racing... but I will say that my Ruby RedHot got to 80 mph at Kansas Speedway... ::) lol  but it took a couple minutes... ;D
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: old 1973 on August 18, 2011, 10:55:28 PM
Somepeople may say that 88mph is nothing to be excited about,but isn't hotrodding or building something u like or is different than someone else's the name of the game the pinto owners that had their cars out on the flats could be enjoying what they had or could have been testing what they built anyways it is just nice to see the pintos being represented on the flats
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Mike Modified on August 19, 2011, 12:09:48 AM
Two problems for all-racers (but especially for inexperienced racers):

1.  The effective altitude, which mid-day can reach 9000' (no oxygen = no horsepower) and

2.  The salt is actually quite slippery.  In 2008, when my Vintage Flathead 4-Cylinder set a record, the computed difference between the actual rpm and actual speed equated to 19% tire slippage. 

88 mph for a low-power newbie on his first set of runs is really quite good.  He'll improve.  It'll take cubic dollars for that 2-liter Ford motor to set the record.

Mike

PS.  A nifty compilation of some high speed (200, 300 & 400 mph) runs from this year:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l79pAWPiDp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l79pAWPiDp4) 

The interesting part, for this discussion, is the roadster that spins out going straight at over 200 mph.  Why?  Lose of traction to one driving wheel that the driver was unable to correct for.  (And the roadster that catches fire was well over 300 mph and set a record (2-run average) of 316+)
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Srt on August 19, 2011, 02:59:23 AM
some good posts here.  some can be called into question. 

like a couple of  other contributers here; don't knock it till you try it.

a lot of these guys/ girls out there are in it to compete simply because they can.  it is not necessarily a 'competition' against any one except yourself.  are there rivalries?  sure.  but it really is a contest against you, your car and your ingenuity/initiative.

how clever am i? maybe if i did this instead of / or in addition to this?  it is grassroots

it aint as easy as it looks & it is VERY expensive.
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Srt on August 19, 2011, 03:09:00 AM
Mike, thanks for keeping an eye on the salt stuff.  Sure would be nice to find those two guys an interview them.

by the way:courtesy the SCTA site, don't know what kind of vehicles
959G     PRO    Reg Cook165.932155.969168.577168.577

 
959G     PRO    Reg Cook159.509168.865171.203171.203


2903G     PRO    Manifest of Speed141.480134.453143.389143.389

in this link, photo 5th from the bottom on the right side is #959 who has run the 171 indicated above. can't tell what it is
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/Speedweek%202011/SpeedWeek-CarPhotos.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/Speedweek%202011/SpeedWeek-CarPhotos.html)

link to results (so far):
http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/Speedweek%202011/results.html (http://www.scta-bni.org/Bonneville/Speedweek%202011/results.html)
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: dick1172762 on August 19, 2011, 10:17:49 PM
Pinto 7001 went 114.373 MPH on Thursday. Not bad at all. Pinto 2102 didn,t run again, or so I'm told. I guess he wasn't as tired as you thought.
Title: Re: Early Pinto running at Bonneville Speedweek
Post by: Srt on August 20, 2011, 02:54:53 AM
Quote from: dick1172762 on August 19, 2011, 10:17:49 PM
Pinto 7001 went 114.373 MPH on Thursday. Not bad at all. "

That's a respectable number.