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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: 69GT on May 15, 2011, 04:32:32 AM

Title: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: 69GT on May 15, 2011, 04:32:32 AM
Well today we stuck the 2.3 turbo motor in its new home: Super Pinto. Can I still call it Super Pinto now that it will be turbo charged?

Here's the rundown...

OK:
Fully ported D port iron head with 1.89/1.59 valves.
Boport 1.5 cam.
fully ported upper and lower intake (rotated to face forward)
65MM throttle body.
Rebuilt stock short block (Weak link)
canton 7 quart baffled oil pan.
Volvo intercooler.
Bob's log coated center mount with external waste gate.
3" down pipe and exhaust.
T04B with .82 A/R.

SDS computer.
65# injectors.
Wide band 02 sensor option for tuning.
255 LPH fuel pump.

Going in:
A 75 Pinto with lighter 78 bumpers 2500 LBS.
8" posi rear 3.55 gears.
5-Speed
:)
2" drop spindles.
11" disk brakes.

Pics...

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Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: Bigtimmay on May 15, 2011, 09:34:59 AM
you can call it whatever you wanna call it except slow! LOL i love the 2.3 turbo they are such little beasts!
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: fast64ranchero on May 15, 2011, 09:56:02 AM
Your stock turbo short block is stonger then you think, mine makes 425 to the wheels with a stock bottom end, just make sure it's tuned correctly, and keep the revs to 7K or less...  your tuning will make or break it!

Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: tony v on May 15, 2011, 02:39:15 PM
killer,..... just killer!!!!! and yupp, the stock bottom end will fer sher take 7k but the tuning ....  i cant wait to put in my roller motor. the harness came out of the thunderchicken last week, now its time to find out how to wire it.  keep up the work on SUPER PINTO!!!
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: 69GT on May 15, 2011, 04:11:46 PM
Yeah. Tuning  :rolleye: .... Well I now have the one thing for the SDS computer that I didn't last time; A wide band O2 sensor and gauge. The gauge has data logging capability. So I can hook up the laptop and adjust the fuel delivery every 250 RPM   :)
So 7000 RPM? That's enough for me :) I was going to set the limiter at 6600 or 6800.
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: yogetthephone on June 06, 2011, 04:08:16 PM
Which SDS system are you using? And how complicated is it to use/setup?
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: 69GT on June 11, 2011, 07:57:54 AM
I'm using the EM-4. With wide band O2 upgrade. I can plug the laptop into the O2 and data-log the A/F ratio for tuning later. The SDS is pretty easy to use. The only draw back is it has only the current tune in it. You can easily change all the settings but you have to print out the paper they send you with the tune and manually enter the values for injector pulse and stuff. It sounds complicated but it's freakin easy. They will send you a e-mail with all the numbers you need to enter into the hand controller to start your combo, and you just enter them into the SDS. The car will fire right up. Then data log using the O2 sensor and add/subtract fuel and how much fuel per LB of boost if you run a power adder. Timing and knock sensor setting is also adjustable. They start you off close and you fine tune it. It worked fine for my old SVO and I raced a friends LS-1 Camaro on the highway and at 17 PSI I embarrassed him pretty bad. I had a 25 PSI setting but he didn't want to see that :)

   My only gripe about it is I can't put multiple tunes on it and just switch to a race gas tune. I have to stop and add timing and stuff. Only takes a minute or two but it's primitive compared to the newer systems.

Oh. There is also a driver seat accessible lean/rich knob that you can easily turn and it adds/subtracts and even amount of fuel through the whole rev range. Good if you find yourself running a little lean in the heat or something.
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: Pinturbo75 on June 11, 2011, 10:22:34 AM
with your combo i think the "weak link" is the volvo intercooler.... you put any sizable amount of boost to it and the end tanks will come off...... i like everything else..... nice job.....
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: 69GT on June 14, 2011, 06:23:31 AM
Yeah. I agree. I hear about 19-20 PSI they tend to pop. I will keep the boost lower until a better intercooler can be found.
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: 69GT on June 14, 2011, 06:24:26 AM
Quote from: Pinturbo75 on June 11, 2011, 10:22:34 AM
with your combo i think the "weak link" is the volvo intercooler... . you put any sizable amount of boost to it and the end tanks will come off...... i like everything else..... nice job.....

What intercooler do you run?
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: Pinturbo75 on June 14, 2011, 07:35:59 AM
im using a large npr from an isuzu box truck.....  works and flows great...
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: 69GT on June 14, 2011, 09:09:58 AM
Ahh.   I've heard of those. I will have to dig around the junk yards in my vicinity. I do have a chance to buy a Vortech aftercooler set up for a 2.3 turbo but not sure I want the complexity.

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Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: Pinto Pro on June 24, 2011, 01:40:47 AM
Depending on your horsepower goals, the 65lb.hr injectors may not be enough.

Whatever you, do not detonate with a cast iron head!! Its almost a guarantee that it'll be junk once you do....been there done that.
Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: 69GT on June 24, 2011, 10:59:57 AM
  Pinto Pro:     Well one nice thing about the SDS is injector upgrades are easy. 75 or 80 # injectors would make me feel a little more safe. What do you think I need?  I am still unsure of what kind of power it will make. I figured 300-350 at the wheels would be awesome.  The Vortech after cooler is looking better and better...

Title: Re: In goes the turbo motor.
Post by: Pinto Pro on June 29, 2011, 12:26:24 AM
I had 55lb/hr injectors initially because all the so-called "experts" said they would be good for X amount of power.

They came in far short of expectations, and they were maxed out and running 100% duty cycle trying to keep up with the airflow demands.

So I stepped up to a set of 72 lb/hr units and they worked great, and got them back down to 80% duty cycle which was worlds better.

My complete SDS system is in a box on the shelf in the garage.