Hi all,
It's been a while since I've been on the site. Have a pic of my lil' ole eggbeater going through the break in and tests, but I can't seem to post it.
Got up to 147 HP on it's first day. The shop guys think they can do better with a little more carb tweaking.
Al
in CT.
Hey Al,
Where are you???
I wanted to know if you got any more ponies out of your 2.0??
Hope you come back soon and say Hello.
From Pintony
Hi Pintony,
Nice to hear from you.
Am still trying to figure the hostility of your reply to my last post, (2.3 Turbo Swap in 73, by 73pintogeek). You are absolutly correct that the bolt patterns in the engines are identical. I was wrong and having said that, I apoligize for broadcasting misinformation, to you, to the group, and most especially to 73pintogeek, (I sure hope he made out OK).. I assure you it was not done with malice, just without proper research.
I do not understand your reply though, hell I'm sure no expert on Pinto's. Love em' yes, it's the only brand new vehicle that I ever owned, (73 Runabout, White - Lime Green Vinyl Top & Interior), and will probably stay that way. You will probably forget more about Pinto's than I will ever know.
I would never suggest that you or anyone else is stupid, - hey, that ain't just like me. I would like to put all of this behind and move on though.
Anyway, 161 ponies out of my Two Liter. At least thats what they told me. Am still worried about the lash adjusting nuts coming loose,( # 3 cylinder exhaust seems to be the one that likes me best), will need your help here for sure. I got the whole kit from Esslinger as a circle track roller cam assembly, the mildest they had. When the machine shop folks told them it was for a street car they took the cam back and reground it as they said it would eat up cam bearings if I didn't.
Right now the engine is on the stand waiting for me to finish the vehicle, (72 Runabout), that it will be installed in. I've renewed with vigor, my efforts in this direction since my last post. Am suffering from "Project Burnout" and had to walk away for awhile, but I'm back at it now. When I do get it back on the road again, stock it will be not. A lot of major modifications a long time in the making. Hope to send it to friends who will do the bodywork soon, (they got their Pinto's kicked out of a car show this summer).
Recently I purchased a small Nikon "Cool Pix" camera for E-Bay stuff close ups as my other camera was not suited for same. Don't know how much area the pics take up on it's lowest setting but will try to post some on the site.
Have a turbo project down the road, will look forward to your's and the group's help when I get there.
Take care.
Al
in CT
I think we should clear up this 2.0 vs 2.3 bellhousing issue for the benefit of those on the board considering the T-5 swap on the 2.0L. I have done this modification for a friend of mine and a couple of others on fordpinto.com have done it also. Each engine uses 6 bellhousing mounting holes on the block. The pattern is not identical. The bottom 4 holes are identical and the locating dowels on the 2.3 are larger. The top two holes on the 2.3 are higher up than the 2.0. So technically you can bolt a 2.3 bellhousing to the 2.0 block without any modifications but you are only going to be able to use the 4 lower mounting holes. If you want to use all 6 then you will have to figure out some sort of modification to use the two upper holes. What I did was have the top part of the bellhousing with the mounting bosses cut out and re welded lower to match the 2.0 pattern. I also had the nounting surface machined flat because it warped form the welding heat. The ultimate would be to get a T-5 bellhousing from a 80's Ford Sierra Cosworth 2WD from England but I don't have those kind of connections.
Also I just had a thought while writing this. I wonder if the T-5 tranny will bolt to the the 2.0 4sp bellhousing. Anybody tried that?
Quote from UltimatePinto,
Anyway, 161 ponies out of my Two Liter. At least thats what they told me. Am still worried about the lash adjusting nuts coming loose,( # 3 cylinder exhaust seems to be the one that likes me best), will need your help here for sure. I got the whole kit from Esslinger as a circle track roller cam assembly, the mildest they had. When the machine shop folks told them it was for a street car they took the cam back and reground it as they said it would eat up cam bearings if I didn't.
Reply from Pintony,
Hello Al,
I think I have the cure for your lock nuts coming loose.
Your base circle on your camshaft is too small and you need either longer valves or longer adjusters.
Both can be purchased through esslingerracing.com
Yeah, and I cant believe someone told you ,you needed to have your cam " re-ground"......... :o :P :'(
When I did the mod on my bellhousing, (cable type), I did the exact same thing so that I would have all possible hardware securing the bellhousing to the block. When I did the welding, I had all parts secured to a bare block. I didn't have too much warpage to deal with as the cast iron makes for a pretty good heat sink for the aluminum, and welding same with argon gas makes for plenty of heat! Interesting about the possibility of an original bellhousing doing the same, never thought of that. I had to go to other extreams to make mine work as in making the clutch cable longer and placing a notch in the lower crossmember to avoid the cable from hitting it.
My friend Bob W. in Washington State used a hydraulic setup for his although I'm not sure what it came off of.
For the rewards gained I agree for the need for a common reference for all to go by.
Will be looking for those longer adjusters from Esslinger and perhaps even using two locking nuts if I can get the room to fit them in. Since the engine is already to go I don't want to go with longer valves if I don't have to.
The cam reground was explained to me by the machine shop folks, who told me that they were advised by Esslinger as the Stage One circle track roller cam was advertised as a race only application. Is possible they were blowing smoke up that part of my anatomy where the sun don't shine? ???, could be, I just took their word for it.
Al
in Ct.
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Hello Ultimatepinto,
Your engine Looks GREAT!!!! Very Shiny!!!!
I do have one thing to say....
If you are planning to use the stock 2.0 Pinto engine mount.
You WILL have problems with getting that header to clear.
From Pintony
I purchased the Schoenfield header from this guy in Houston. It came with a chopped up motor mount bracket and a semi round solid aluminum replacement for a motor mount.
Back in my younger days I tried a set of solid aluminum mounts that I got from Walsh. They all but rattled the fillings out of my teeth.
Did not want even half of that experience again so I moved the motor mount forward on the frame rail and made up a bracket for same on the engine.
Now that I'm getting better at posting pics on the site, I'll be starting another thread about the engine and this particular install.
Al
OK Al,...
So you did know about the motor mount problems.
COOL!
Sounds like you have them worked out!
Keep us posted on your progress.
From Pintony