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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Stuwil on August 04, 2010, 02:12:12 PM

Title: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: Stuwil on August 04, 2010, 02:12:12 PM
Ok   Now it's time for the major frontend overhaul. Got the upper and lower control arms out. New ball joints and bushings. Besides paying a bunch of money to a machine shop is there a way to remove the bushings??
Lower ball joints are hard to find.  HELP!!! Was hoping to get away with just the tops
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: TIGGER on August 04, 2010, 05:31:30 PM
I just got done going thru the front end on my 73.  You are correct, some parts are hard to find on these cars.  On my 73, I had trouble finding the lower control arm bushings.   I did the bushings myself however I bought the Ford Routunda front end tools off ebay about 5 years ago.  It set me back about $30 shipped.  Not sure what they are going for now.  I am not sure what all they have but you may also see if you can find some generic tools at harbor freight.  I must say the bushings were not real easy to get out but I got it done.  Also, when you do the lower control arm bushings, make sure you stick a socket or something inside the control arm frame in order not to bend / compress the frame when you are removing and installing the bushings.
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: Stuwil on August 05, 2010, 10:02:44 AM
thanks for the suggestion

the uppers are really the problem. no access to the back side for the pounding.  Napa  will do it for 20 each-----  might be the best bet

finding the parts is becoming more of a problem. Lower ball joint and bushings are hens teeth. Rare Parts has 'em but they're asking way too much. 89 for the joint and 33 for bushing.   that's reasonable----   it's not like the demand ain't there
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: TIGGER on August 05, 2010, 12:16:26 PM
What year car are you working on?  I picked up my lower ball joints for my 73 a few years back on ebay so I do not remember what I paid.  I know I did not pay what they are currently going for now.  I paid $27 each for my lower control arm bushings, plus shipping.  I only found them in one place on-line.  None of my local parts stores could get them.
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: 72pair on August 05, 2010, 04:11:12 PM
I have a set of Moog k8163 lower joints for the early models. I also have some nos Ford 71-72 tie rod ends. Ball joints: $110 a pair. Rod ends: $45 a pair. I'll pay shipping in US. JT
P.S. I possibly have some bushings. Have to check, got CRS.
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: Lost Coz on August 05, 2010, 09:28:42 PM
I rebuilt the entire front end of the 73 wagon using a kit from PST Performance Suspension Technologies. The kit had everything including all bushing's, upper and lower ball joint's, A arm bushing's, Control arm bushing's and stabilizer bar bushing's. The upper A arm bushing's will come out with a little coaxing with a hammer. The ball joint's had to have the rivet's removed with my body grinder...the new one's bolt in which was easy. The control arm bushings came out with a hammer. The rest was fairly easy to install. After alignment, it handles great. They didn't make the poly bushing's for my application, so I settled for the stock rubber type. If I remember correctly the entire kit was around $220 dollars and you can order individual parts instead of a kit if you need. Hope this helps a little.
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: Stuwil on August 07, 2010, 03:52:12 PM
Everybody,   thanks for all the help
Rare Parts in Calif have the lowers   89 each as well as the bushings 33 each.
They're ordered and should be here Monday. All the upper stuff is available almost anywhere---------WHY?????
I made a tool to fit behind the upper bushing and with two large "C" clamps was able to push out the old bushings, Worn is putting it mildly. Something you all may want to check is the upper 2 bolts that hold the control arms to the frame. ALL four of mine were loose. All this wear and looseness was brought to my attention with each bump in the raod. The car just wanted shift left and right and rattle. Plus, my left spring was weak allowing the driver's side to sit low. All said and done about 325. and about three days labor----mostly cleaning and looking for parts.
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: SkipSherv on February 05, 2017, 08:39:57 AM
What a difference 6 1/2 years make.  That kit from PST was $220 in 2010 and now in 2017 $400!
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: dick1172762 on February 05, 2017, 09:36:37 AM
In the past I have burned the bushings out. Just use gasoline so the arms don't get too hot. Worked for me.
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: dick1172762 on February 06, 2017, 01:33:42 PM
Do a search for dave 1987 then a search for restoring my 78 sedan. Then in red, click of restoring my 78 sedan. Then go to page 13 and scroll down to reply 383. This is how dave 1987 rebuilt his Pinto front end with home made tools. Piece of cake.
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: 65ShelbyClone on February 09, 2017, 10:45:08 PM
Or click here:

http://www.fordpinto.com/your-project/restoring-my-78-sedan/360/

;)
Title: Re: Control arm bushing replacement
Post by: LongTimeFordMan on March 04, 2017, 12:03:30 AM
I have a 73 wagon and am looking to do the front end rebuild and want to get a spare pair of lower arms to rebuild and have ready to do a replacemet when the time comes..

I found some lower ball joints and bushings for a 73 for a good price.

There seems to be a lot of confusion about interchangeability about lower arms.

My question is what are the specific differences between the lower control arms on 73 and later 74-80 cars.

I know that there were major changes in the front suspension between 73 and 74 and most of the later parts wont fit on the 73. But I was wondering if the control arms are different as well.

I saw some lower arms advertised as "1973" for $275  a pair and the photos look very similar to ones advertised as "74-80" for about $60 each.

Thanks..