I hope this isn't a stupid question. I was told that Green Meanie, my '73 forest green wagon, has a failing throw-out bearing. How hard is this to replace? Do I need to take the tranny out? My Pinto DIY manuals don't have the info, or they're calling it something else (the bearing). I miss driving her but I don't fancy being stranded somewhere or getting an excessive noise citation. Any help will be appreciated.
yes the tranny does need to come out i have not done one my self but a few years ago at carlisle they changed one in the motel 6 parking lot. the weight of the trasmission would be the hardest part.
Quote from: phils toys on July 27, 2010, 10:04:38 AM
yes the tranny does need to come out
Yep, getting to the bolts might be the hardest part. The drive shaft will need to be disconnected, along with the shifter.
Might as well get a kit that comes with the clutch plate and disk, too - just another 70 bucks. That might be the last time you ever tear it apart like that again.
Quote from: phils toys on July 27, 2010, 10:04:38 AMthe weight of the trasmission would be the hardest part.
A Pinto tranny is just tad bigger than that of a riding lawnmower. ::)
A floor jack and a helper should be able to easily manage it.
My bearing is getting noisy, so i see myself doing this job in the future, and finally replace that original clutch with 155K+ miles on it! :surprised:
WWAAAAAAAA!!!! lol. Ok Thank you guys. I'm debating whether I want to tackle this (or if I even CAN- my elbow is far from healed) or save my pennies and have my neighbor mechanic do it (for about $400-$500). One of my books mentioned something about using a special hammer to knock out a bearing... must be a different bearing. I don't remember if it was the Haynes book or the Chilton's one. Sigh.
Yeah, you would need a slide hammer to get the pilot bearing out of the motor's crank shaft. The input shaft from the transmission rides on the inside of the pilot bearing which helps to support all the transmission stuff (clutch disc, pressure plate, etc.) and keep everything centered.
I've never had a pilot bearing go out on me before, but then I've replaced it every clutch rebuild.
Becky if bearing goes out you can still drive, at red lights do start in first gear when green light operate shift lever very delicate while adjusting eng. rpm slowly it will fall in next gear, I have done this a lot. When I was a kid I use to go around circles in gas station waiting for green light LoL . Anyway trans weight is 58 pounds now how did I know that. Fred
lol prolly cos you just sent one to the Great White North! lol! I do start her in 1st gear. She shifts ok (for her) but she's noisy all the time... and it's not a pretty noise.
I solve noises by turning up the radio lmao :lol: :evil: :angel:
HA! I can't do that in a car whose radio or speaker don't work. :'(
Here's what you do to fix it... Get a 6 pack of Dew & a pizza.. Sit down & get crankin :coolrasta:
That's the spirit Matty... fix the car and f*** up my diet. :lol:
lol... I had to mess with ya. We all love ya becky ;)
Quote from: blupinto on July 27, 2010, 07:31:06 PM
HA! I can't do that in a car whose radio or speaker don't work. :'(
that might be a cheeper and easyer fix
Boom box on the front seat does wonders.
Quote from: blupinto on July 27, 2010, 03:08:45 PM
She shifts ok (for her) but she's noisy all the time... and it's not a pretty noise.
What is the noise like? All the time?
Mine squalls only when the clutch is disengaged when the bearing is turning on its shaft. When engaged, it is okay. This started after i pressure washed the engine and tranny and the bellhousing filled with water due to a torn up clutch lever boot. Must have rusted. Smog pump rusted up also...
Quote from: 78txpony on July 27, 2010, 09:24:10 PM
What is the noise like? All the time?
Mine squalls only when the clutch is disengaged when the bearing is turning on its shaft. When engaged, it is okay. This started after i pressure washed the engine and tranny and the bellhousing filled with water due to a torn up clutch lever boot. Must have rusted. Smog pump rusted up also...
Imagine a wildcat being mauled by something... or better yet, remember the sound of cordouroy pants when you walk? Ok amplify that 10,000+ times. It hurts your ears. When I apply the clutch the noise quiets a little... but not much. I feel the vibrations in the shifter knob too.
Bomb the car with lubricant. That will silence it lol
I have sprayed my bearing with WD40 after pulling the boot and letting it drain and dry out.
It helped a little but not much.
I would think it should shut up when the clutch is engaged (while driving or in neutral...
Hmmm.....
As soon as the car is started the noise starts too. Even when she "diesels" when she's parked she makes that horrid noise til the engine is completely dead. ARGGG! Why can't this be a simple fix!?
I wonder if it is something a little more in depth since the noise won't go away at all.
Quote from: blupinto on July 27, 2010, 10:41:58 AM
WWAAAAAAAA!!!! lol. Ok Thank you guys. I'm debating whether I want to tackle this (or if I even CAN- my elbow is far from healed) or save my pennies and have my neighbor mechanic do it (for about $400-$500). One of my books mentioned something about using a special hammer to knock out a bearing... must be a different bearing. I don't remember if it was the Haynes book or the Chilton's one. Sigh.
Dang Becky, you need to move to Va. The labor rate is too high in Cali! :lol:
Pinto clutch replacement: (what a gravy job!) $120.00
Parts including a new pilot bearing: $90-100 (the pilot mat be your noise)
Tip for mechanic: 12 pack of Coors Light ;D
The special tool is a pilot bearing puller. Yes I have one! :fastcar:
I would love to live in Virginia... except for that heat and oppressive humidity! lol. I wish I could say it's a gravy job... I really miss driving her.
Quote from: blupinto on July 31, 2010, 12:28:53 AM
I would love to live in Virginia... except for that heat and oppressive humidity! lol. I wish I could say it's a gravy job... I really miss driving her.
Granted, it's been hot and humid lately, but it's not always that way! On the other hand, we don't have earthquakes, either!
Dwayne, certified native Virginian :smile:
Certified anyway... ::)
...or perhaps "certifiable" would be closer to the truth! :lol: Hi Becky!!! Aren't you going to welcome me home?
Dwayne :smile:
Welcome home Dwayne... but you didn't go on your trip yet, did you? I thought it was next week... well, in a couple days anyway... ???
Quote from: blupinto on July 31, 2010, 10:22:03 PM
Welcome home Dwayne... but you didn't go on your trip yet, did you? I thought it was next week... well, in a couple days anyway... ???
You mean I hallucinated those nine hours of driving in the rain today???
Sorry... it must've been a communication breakdown... :P Besides the rain, how was your trip? ;D