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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: beicholz on June 23, 2010, 08:35:33 AM

Title: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: beicholz on June 23, 2010, 08:35:33 AM
I am considering a 2nd Pinto.   I have no idea where I'll but it, but that's another story.   

My current Pinto has the V6.  New one has the 2000cc.

Any thoughts about the 2000cc engine?   Is it as "bullet-proof" as I hear the 2300cc is?  How long with this engine go before overhaul, if well cared for?   Anything to watch out for?

Thanks, members!
Title: Re: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: blupinto on June 23, 2010, 04:06:39 PM
Quote from: beicholz on June 23, 2010, 08:35:33 AM
I am considering a 2nd Pinto.   I have no idea where I'll but it, but that's another story.   


LOL that didn't stop me! lol!  Do tell do tell please! I crave details and pictures!
Title: Re: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: Pintosopher on June 23, 2010, 04:32:48 PM
Quote from: beicholz on June 23, 2010, 08:35:33 AM
I am considering a 2nd Pinto.   I have no idea where I'll but it, but that's another story.   

My current Pinto has the V6.  New one has the 2000cc.

Any thoughts about the 2000cc engine?   Is it as "bullet-proof" as I hear the 2300cc is?  How long with this engine go before overhaul, if well cared for?   Anything to watch out for?

Thanks, members!
The 2.0L is a Cologne German built engine called a EAO group motor. It has few weakness if left stock and can be Modified with induction & Exhaust changes up to 150HP and stock internals. It also has a high nickel content block that wears well for minimal rebuilds. But it does have solid lifters, and hence requires Valve clearance adjustments every 7K miles or sooner depending on Camshaft profile. It will also wear out the Center Cam bearing ( replaceable) ( there are only three ) if you put in a performance cam .  Great engine , the "small block Chevy" of the UK car cult.

The 2.3 is originally a Lima Ohio built motor ( built in a bunch of South American plants too) It is way sturdier than the 2.0 but suffer from (depending on year of manufacture) Poor Cylinder head design and some cam& Hydraulic lifter issues (Neglecting oil changes) Most of these are easily remedied by swapping around for the "right pieces" until you have the best combo.
This motor can go over 250K without a Rebuild with modern maintenance and great oils. It also can sustain over 200hp at high Rpm without failure. People swear by them , Esslinger builds them for all kinds of racing, and they are everywhere. Ask Pintopower (Alberto) he'll fill you in!
  Neither engine shares any parts, the EAO 2.0l is getting pricey to find parts for. The 2.3 is better for parts availability & affordability.

My two cents worth ..

Pintosopher ...ridin a old skool trail to the corral
Title: Re: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: beicholz on June 23, 2010, 04:53:27 PM
Great input, Pintoshipher.   Thank you!   I may pass on the 2000cc I'm looking at, based on your input.   My V6 took a lot of tweaking to get right, and I really don't want to go through all that again...especially the parts issue!
Title: Re: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: russosborne on June 23, 2010, 07:56:15 PM
Good info Pintosopher.
Could you post a bit more about the years for the 2.3, or a website or something?
Thanks,
Russ
Title: Re: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: 72pair on June 23, 2010, 09:22:47 PM
Don't give up on the 2000cc too soon. Nothing sounds or feels like one revving up thru the gears. Parts are out there; it just takes a little searching. What are you looking for? Stock, hi-perf? JT
Title: Re: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: map351 on June 23, 2010, 10:19:26 PM
Go with the 2.3 turbo you'll never look back. I had a 88 ( Turbo Cp) 2.3 turbo in my 88 Ranger 22+ Lb of boost never had the head off put on over 280K and the engine is in my 73 pinto..

Mike
Title: Re: 2000 v. 2300cc?
Post by: beicholz on June 23, 2010, 10:58:48 PM
Since you asked,  I am looking at a bone-stock '74 wagon that looks brand new, 75K miles, 2000cc, automatic, obviously garaged its whole life.  I like Pintos for the  memories...nothing better for me than one that looks original.

The way I look at it, I don't care about souping up the engine.  If I wanted a fast car, I wouldn't be buying a Pinto.

So....I want to keep it stock.  Just don't want to spend lots of $ and time looking for parts.   It runs great right now.   Perhaps with good servicing, valve adjustments, etc., I'll be OK.