Pinto Car Club of America
Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Bigtimmay on June 16, 2010, 04:38:29 PM
Well im wanting to remove as much of the original wiring as i can before i put it my standalone 2.3t harness.
That being said who has removed the duraspark ignition and the original voltage regulator? can it all be removed and not mess with the wiring of lights and such?
What other wiring can i/should i remove?
Im goining to be installing a 1 wire chevy altenator im going for the clean and functional look under the hood. No a/c, No p/s, It will have power brakes and 4 wheel disc brakes though.
the duraspark portion of the harness should be separate and easy to remove. as far as the alternator wiring if you are using a 2.3 stick with the ford alt or step up to the 3g 120 amp model. if you hack out the original voltage reg it will have the main wire a yellow and a green one left at the in the harness. it connects direct to the main, yellow and green that come of the ford alt. you can even steal the alt harness/ connector off an explorer and plug it right in without any real mods except attaching the connector on the pinto side of the harness.
i got the original alt but its crap and i have the one thats still in my 88 TC(Donor car) but i dont want it either i thought about doing the 3g swap but then again id have to buy the alt an i already have the GM 1 wire and its pretty much brandnew only has maybe 18 miles on it pulled it out of a mini truck me and my brother built that the frame got drug in half LOL bags and laying frame is not your freind hahaha.
So you wouldnt recommend the 1wire alt upgrade?
im not worryed about mounting it since i wont be using the factory brakets i have cause all the ones i have are for powersteering and a/c even the stock ones outta my bobcat are.
ive been doing some more reading up on the altenator wiring since the f/s post go to the alt the would come out with the alternator and then that would leave the a wire that goes through the harness and stops at the battery side of the starter solenoid if i remove that all it leaves is the I alternator warning indicator wire and since im not using the original gauges that would be pointless wire to leave in the car right?
Well thats what im gunna do track down all the wires and remove them then install a 2 gauge wire from my new altenator to the hot side of starter solenoid and then use the 1 gauge wire i have and the fuse block i have and run that from the back of the car to the front.
Oh also can most of the wires from the 2 plugs that the original engine harness plugged into be removed?
I pretty much only want the wiring for the lights and horn and starter to be left. If these parts of the cars wiring cant be ran seperetly after removing all the other wires i guess ill have to rewire the entire car which i dont wanna do but it wouldnt be the first time.
if i recall correctly the wiring on the drivers side plugs is key power , start and gauges. there should be one set that is jumpered for the dummy cel and one for the alt light, very little else.
what are you using for a stand alone harness? i can give you the pinout for the 88 computer that will allow you to trim away all the junk at the connector that is not required for the engine management then just strip forward from there. i used an 86 merkur harness and was able to change one pin on the drivers side plugs to interface all the factory gauges with the original connectors. it tied the harnesses together on the drivers side and required one firewall hole to feed the ecu connector back into the cabin just above the heater box
if you are not using the factory alt light then yeah the chebby alt might be a better choice otherwise you gotta use a resistor to load the circuit to get the thing charging. i just recommended the ford cause a its a ford part and b the 88 and newer internal reg models are dirt simple to install if you are using the original gauges n stuff.
honestly though you can quite easily merge the pinto and engine harness and wrap them all in one loom. it looks clean and factory. should be no need to rewire the whole thing since the pinto harness is so basic.
pm me i can hook you up to my facebook for a little insight into what i am building. would be happy to help you work your way through the wiring and stuff if you want.
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The harness im using is like one of the detail zone harnesses or atleast close to one so itll only have a couple wires to hook up.I bought it cause i didnt feel like sorting my 88s harness hate that wiring mess. LOL
I really dont think i would have to rewire the whole car but if it did come to that i would.
If i can get the original gauges well dummy lights to work i guess i can for now then put my new gauges in later.
Quote from: Bigtimmay on June 17, 2010, 11:05:54 AM
The harness im using is like one of the detail zone harnesses or atleast close to one so itll only have a couple wires to hook up.I bought it cause i didnt feel like sorting my 88s harness hate that wiring mess. LOL
I really dont think i would have to rewire the whole car but if it did come to that i would.
If i can get the original gauges well dummy lights to work i guess i can for now then put my new gauges in later.
where did u get ur harness?
from a guy on turboford