Well, I am new to this board, I guess i can give a little background info. I was car shopping up in tucson last year and spotted this pinto on craigslist. I went to this old mans house and no kidding, in his garage was a 1978 Pinto runabout, hunter green, with the checkered yellow and green interior, but the best to see was the car had ~60k original miles, and absolutely not rust, or damage, the paint looked almost brand new, and the interior looks like it just came off the factory line, only repair was re-sewing a seat seam and part of a head liner pleat.
Engine had obviously been well taken care of, I could see new plug wires and what was obvious regular maintence, fluids were all clean, no grunge or gunk anywhere, new brake pads, I mean someone really loved his pinto.
Well the old guy loved his car, but he just didnt get out of the house much, and so he agreed to sell it to me, for 1400 dollars. I was a very happy man.
Well, now the bad... for some odd reason on my way back down to sierra vista (bought a 70 mile trip) at about the halfway point, I spun a crank bearing, and screwed the crank and the piston. I was going about 80 so it was not pretty.
So fast forward to many long months of a total rebuild, i started in august of 2009, it is now feb 2010. Motor has been completely rebuilt, just about ready to go back in. Unfortunately a few things are stopping me cold.
#1 I was retarded and busted off a bolt in the block putting the fuel pump back on. Easyout isnt working, so I am not sure what to do, it is busted within the hole so i cant weld anything to it.
#2 I cannot for the life of me remember how the accessory brackets go back on the motor. I have the AC bracket on, but everything else, i just cant remember/figure it out.
I guess I need some advice on what to do about the bolt, and also, pictures or a drawing of how the brackets/accessories go.
I would really appreciate it.
PS if anyone is in sierra vista, AZ area I coudl really use some help, I am more of a shade tree mechanic which is why it took me 6 months to get the motor done.
Thanks,
Owen
Can't help you with the brackets without seeing them, but I would suggest getting an electric fuel pump if there is enough thread to put a metal cover over the fuel pump hole. One bolt might seal it up ok with some silicone. Just make sure you get a fuel shutoff valve to kill the fuel pump in case of an accident.
I'm planning on getting an electric pump for mine.
Joe
I would post picks but work blocks that stuff.
brackets are..... AC already mounted on passenger side, I need to remember how to mount the power steering pump, and alternator.
I almost feel as though i lost a bracket somewhere, or got it mixed up with some other parts laying around the garage. its like a tetris piece that just wont fit. drving me absolutely insane for sure.
Somebody else will probably respond, but I would guess that the power steering mounts below the alternator on the driver's side. There is a mounting area on the 2.3 block just in front of the distributor which is used often as a place to mount brackets. I added power steering to mine using a serpentine belt system from a newer Mustang, but because mine didn't have power steering originally. I do remember though that the old alternator bracket mounted to that spot as well as the new serpentine power steering/alternator combo
Wish i could find a decent picture of the front of a 78 2.3l block with the brackets on it, been looking all morning.
This is what my system looks like
Awesome, that bracket on the bottom of the alternator i definately have, what is attached to the top of the alternator?
Also, is the power steering mounted to the front of the block? if so that would probably be one of the biggest things i was forgetting...
The top of the alternator is attached to a small bracket that attaches to the cylinder head in front of the intake manifold. It has 3 holes in it and sort of goes vertically. The power steering bracket mounts to the holes in the block directly in front of the distributor. You can't see the bolts in this pic, but they are right in front of the distributor.
There are also a couple of bolts down the side as well, but probably not for your car, as mine is a newer system and I had to cut the bracket to clear the fuel pump as there is no fuel pump on the newer 2.3's, they are electric with fuel injection.
As far as the broken bolt, I bought a set of easy-outs from snap-on, came with left handed drill bits that are super hard and super sharp, well worth the money. Haven't had a bolt yet that didn't come out. You may need some heat, even if it's with a propane torch.
Well, I tried a snapon easy out, and it ended up ripping out the hole even worse. Im thinking i might have to drill out the hole and put new threads in it. Or seal it off by welding/steel plate and go electric.
Also working on the wiring harness... got to redo most of the wired as the coating is all dry and cracked off, most of the wires are exposed, and plugs are corroded.
Wish i knew a good place to find a replacement that wasnt going to cost an arm and a leg.
for pc try this likn at aqbout 45 sec are my engine pic i may have mor if you need them
Phil'sToys 1976 Mercury Bobcat Villager (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPUX_FB6M-0#)
you can try here as well but have to look through the pic
http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/Philstoys/bobcat%20%201/ (http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z206/Philstoys/bobcat%20%201/)
Darn work blocks photobucket.. But I will check when i get home. Appreciate it.
Take a look. Fred :)
Alright, i think i got it now. My brackets are just differrent for some reason. Did ford use differrent brackets for cars depending on where they were made?
Depends on accessories installed. Fred :)
Hi oddz,
I have an old auto body friend that showed me a trick with broke off bolts. I was changing the tranny in my s10 and broke 4 of the 6 exahust manifold flange bolts off inside the holes, 2 were broke way up inside. They were 3/8. He took a 3/8 nut, held it up to the hole with vicegrips and with a wire feed welder welded the nut to the broken bolt. Then heated up the metal till it was dull red, and put a socket and rachet on the nut and they came rite out. Not sure if this will help but thought I would share.
Robert
For the broken alternator bracket bolts on my 73's 2.0...
If I can't get them out with an easy-out, I will be drilling the old bolts out, and using a helicoil to add new threads to it.
I once took a small cutting wheel on a dremel and cut a slot in the stud. I then took a screwdriver and backed the stud out like a screw...
Its broken off inside the hole, about 1/2 inch or so... so cant cut a slot in it. That welding idea sounds interesting, the way i understand it the hole would fille with the metal, attaching to the stud, but shouldnt bond to the cast iron... which means it should work..
Not to comfortable with welding on cast iron though, never done that before.
Wow- thats deep... In fact it is so deep, that there ~might~ just be enough threads to use a shorter bolt... If not, hope you get it out somehow, or go the electric pump route.
look up HeliCoil inserts on line good stuf is the motor in or out of the car
Quote from: Oddzball on February 19, 2010, 12:32:24 PM
Its broken off inside the hole, about 1/2 inch or so... so cant cut a slot in it. That welding idea sounds interesting, the way i understand it the hole would fille with the metal, attaching to the stud, but shouldnt bond to the cast iron... which means it should work..
Not to comfortable with welding on cast iron though, never done that before.
if it's broken off that far in I would just drill it anouther 1/4" or so and tap it.