So, what do you guy's think it is??
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Ok, I'll tell you! LOL
That is what the wagon window hinge looks like on the inside! We stripped the 77 wagon today and because everytime you try to remove the hinged windows, the hinges break, we cut the posts out instead! LOL So now we have two hinged windows windows with good hinges! Although I don't know how one would remove them intact! LOL
Actually I think it can be done! It's hard to tell from the pic, but there are small little hook pieces on both sides of the round thing. ( Like my technical terms? LOL) I think if one cut the metal to expose the hinges, one could use a screw driver or a pair of plyers to push it back out from the "inside out"!
I will try to take some better pics tomorrow!!
Kim, there is a plastic pin that you need to push out and the glass will come out. Then you can remove the inserts a little easier. The pin is the diameter of a paperclip. One end of the pin is larger which is the stop if that makes any sense.
Quote from: TIGGER on December 28, 2009, 12:55:48 AM
Kim, there is a plastic pin that you need to push out and the glass will come out. Then you can remove the inserts a little easier. The pin is the diameter of a paperclip. One end of the pin is larger which is the stop if that makes any sense.
I looked all over and couldn't find where you would push a pen?? Here are some more pics. Do any of them show the pin you are talking about?
The red arrow shows the "tab" on the inside of the post!
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This last pic is of just the window part of the hinge. I broke the hinges taking out this window!
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Its a plastic pin that slides into the round barrel of the trim piece (the last pic you posted) The pin keeps the assembly together. I have some NOS ones in my storage area that if I remember I will try and find them to post some pictures. I have both kinds of inserts so I can show the difference between the wagon and the hatch/sedan style. Before anyone asks, they are not for sale.
Any helpful info on removing this pin would be great. I'm going to be replacing my window seals on the wagon with ones I pulled from the leak free bobcat wagon this spring (every last seal was saved!).
I don't want to mess up those nice hinges on the car in the process.
Dave, the only way to remove the pin is to gain access from the rear. I don't think you want to cut you car up. You should be able to change the seals without having to remove the glass. All you need to do is loosen the latch and you should be able to remove and replace the gasket. Be careful not to pull back the glass too far when the latch is loose or the clips could break if they are brittle enough.
Thanks Tig! I will remember that about the glass when I go to replace the seals. And no, I don't want to cut up my wagon. :P
So here are the pics from the inserts. The grey one is for a sedan / hatch. The black one is for a wagons. I need to retract my previous statement as I thought there was a hole in the bottom of the wagon insert but there is not. There is only a hole in the sedan / hatch insert. Both use the same plastic pin. I found out today that even with the pin removed on the wagon insert, they are still a pain to remove from the window frame. The sedan / hatch inserts are much more easy to remove from the window frame when the pin is removed.
Thanks for those pics!!
It looks like that no matter what it is going to near impossible to get them out without breaking them unless you cut your car post up!
So, does anyone have a source for new or aftermarket ones? Or is the only way to get a set of these going to be by us scrapping out pintos and cutting the posts to remove the clips intact? I'm thinking even by removing them by cutting the posts, it will be a toss up if they will survive trying to reinstall them!!
Unfortunately, nobody is reproducing them that I know of. It took me about 5 years to piece together a NOS set of each for my personal cars however I have not seen any more for sale of each type for quite some time now.
For now, cutting the posts is the best way I have found to save the clips if you don't care about the car. Even if the clips do break be sure to save the pins.
Tigger, I work with a company that will make them. Tooling is $ costly but can be done. If you were willing to let us use them as samples I could get a quote on manufacturing them.
Just a thought.
Paul
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