Well as the title says, i'm looking to start a pinto project of my own. Back in the day my dad had a 72 pinto with a 289H.P. swap in it. He's just wrapping up his 66 mustang restoration and we are looking for a fun project for this winter. Anyway we've located a 76 pinto sedan. My main question is what would be the most cost effective/simple swap for this pinto. My dad wants to put a non H.P. 289 in it but i'm leaning more toward a 5.0 or 351. What do you guys think??? This car will mainly be used for a summer fun car and the occasional drag weekend at the strips.
I am doing the same thing with a 78 hatch. I am using a 67 289 K-motor with a manual. I am going mainly for a driver with a few stoplight drags. You know, burn a Ricer!
You sound like you want a screamer and Dad wants a show off. IMHO a drag car would be more expensive due to safety and power parts. That is my three cents worth. The guys and girls here will support you either way you go, good luck.
:tgif:
I have a 74 at a good price that you could slice and dice. Fred :)
WHAT!? NO FRED!!! NOT THE ORANGE ONE!!! :o
It's ok Becky I have 3 74's. Fred ;D
Turbo Pinto! :surprised:
Maybe a late 5.0 H.O.
Thanks for the replies.
Can someone tell me what the advantages/ disadvantages of each of these engine swaps would be?
- HP289
- 289
- 5.0 302
Quote from: Fred Morgan on October 23, 2009, 06:20:29 PM
It's ok Becky I have 3 74's. Fred ;D
Whew! You really had me going Fred!
" Any suggestions??"
Don't!!!!!! :amazed:
Pinto's are very addictive. Once you have one, you just can't stop!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Quote from: harasyn92 on October 23, 2009, 06:25:47 PM
Thanks for the replies.
Can someone tell me what the advantages/ disadvantages of each of these engine swaps would be?
- HP289
- 289
- 5.0 302
The blocks are basicaly the same in mounting. Age is a factor due to the 289 was discontinued for, I think,1968. You may have to be careful of the bellhousings.
The 302 is easier to mount a T5 or C4. Either engine is a good swap.
If your wanting to go cost evective then i would find a fox body with a good running motor and t5 perferably 85 or newer and you have most of the parts ready to swap. then just make it shiney ;D 8)
The '76 is a great body for a V8 swap, the '71-'73 are a little harder. (ask me and smallfryefarm how we know). My car has a basicly stock 5.0 HO and t-5 from an '89 Mustang. Plenty of power and nice street manners and will getcha sideways when you nail it in second. Late model 5.0's are easy to find. Do a search for V8 swaps, lots of info here!
Quote from: harasyn92 on October 23, 2009, 05:33:28 PM
Well as the title says, i'm looking to start a pinto project of my own. Back in the day my dad had a 72 pinto with a 289H.P. swap in it. He's just wrapping up his 66 mustang restoration and we are looking for a fun project for this winter. Anyway we've located a 76 pinto sedan. My main question is what would be the most cost effective/simple swap for this pinto. My dad wants to put a non H.P. 289 in it but i'm leaning more toward a 5.0 or 351. What do you guys think??? This car will mainly be used for a summer fun car and the occasional drag weekend at the strips.
go with the 351 bigger is better!!!!!!!!
toad 1978
go with a 600" aluminum mountainmotor
id bet "dollar for dollar" i could keep a 2.3 turbo in front of any v8 swap light to light!!!!! and get better mileage at the same time..
hmmm. ;D
Quote from: Pinturbo75 on October 27, 2009, 07:31:08 AM
id bet "dollar for dollar" i could keep a 2.3 turbo in front of any v8 swap light to light!!!!! and get better mileage at the same time..
early 80's 351's are cheap. about $100-$200 bore it out 30 over good set of piston & rods ect.. a little head work and you are looking at 325-375 hp
for about $3000-$3500. or if money is not a problem 347 stroker @ 425-475 hp
but then you would have to add weight to the rear or you would just melt your tires. if i ever get my 77 wagon on the road i would like to take you up, light to light,1000ft or 1/4 mile.
toad.
i really dont understand why most of you hotrodders have so little faith in the 2.3 turbo? i have around 2700 in my car right now including purchase price and im just over 400 to the wheels now with a rough tune, a worked head, and a 175000 mile shortblock. itll cruise 75 and 80 all day long and gets 25 mpg . lets see you guys do that with the v8s. im planning to go 10s in the 1/4 early this spring. it will also get the finish tune and dynoed before i build the new shortblock.
so, how many of you can go 10s street legal and get over 20 mpg on the highway and still cruise over 65 mph safely????for less than 3k!!! :devil:
stir the pot.......
Where's my JETO bottles!!!!!!!! :fastcar:
I paid 100 bucks for my car and 100 bucks for the engine and since my brother and I did all of the work I have far less than 2700 in mine. I drive mine to work and anywhere else I want, 75-80 on the interstate, no prob. Over 20 MPG? That may be a problem! :lol: With 300 HP and a 150 shot of nitrous, on slicks it may go tens, maybe not! But then again, my engine is bone stock internally. However, I do have one thing that you don't, the awesome sound of a V8 barking through glass packs! OHHH YEAAA!!!
(stir stir stir)
Quote from: Pinturbo75 on October 27, 2009, 05:09:36 PM
i really dont understand why most of you hotrodders have so little faith in the 2.3 turbo? i have around 2700 in my car right now including purchase price and im just over 400 to the wheels now with a rough tune, a worked head, and a 175000 mile shortblock. itll cruise 75 and 80 all day long and gets 25 mpg . lets see you guys do that with the v8s. im planning to go 10s in the 1/4 early this spring. it will also get the finish tune and dynoed before i build the new shortblock.
so, how many of you can go 10s street legal and get over 20 mpg on the highway and still cruise over 65 mph safely????for less than 3k!!! :devil:
stir the pot.......
If you are at 400 to the wheels, you should be in the 10's already!
If you dont have an aftermarket (Esslinger) aluminum head, you may want to get one.
Iron is junk. As soon as you detonate on it, it WILL be junk!!
Quote from: 71pintoracer on October 28, 2009, 12:09:26 AM
I paid 100 bucks for my car and 100 bucks for the engine and since my brother and I did all of the work I have far less than 2700 in mine. I drive mine to work and anywhere else I want, 75-80 on the interstate, no prob. Over 20 MPG? That may be a problem! :lol: With 300 HP and a 150 shot of nitrous, on slicks it may go tens, maybe not! But then again, my engine is bone stock internally. However, I do have one thing that you don't, the awesome sound of a V8 barking through glass packs! OHHH YEAAA!!!
(stir stir stir)
SO true 71, sooo true.
I have a friend at work that is tired of tripping around with his SVO mustang. Turbo 2.3 aluminum headed 300 detuned HP and he was always fighting his 4. When it was finally done and got all the bugs out of it he was just about exhausted and done mentaly. Yah it was a great ride, fast handled great, but it had no passion.
When I pulled up in my Pino at work and rumbled his brains back into submission. He was grinning ear to ear " GOD I LOOVE THAT SOUND!!"
So he dumped all the 2.3 stuff and now going, Yep You guessed it, tried and tru 302..
289,302,347,351,408 etc lumpy cam, flowmasters 2.5, 3.0 exhaust Is ALL about the PASSION baby.. It gets my blood goin....
There again, if you really want HP. Then go 302 with a turbo... Talk to "78Pinto" about that one!!! Or maybe a stroked 351 out to 454 with twin turbos. HP??? Lets just say get your will in order....
V8s or death!!
LOL!
Quote from: Pinto Pro on October 28, 2009, 12:56:32 AM
If you are at 400 to the wheels, you should be in the 10's already!
this is true! my clutch needs to be upgraded and i need a good set of stickies. momma has cut me off on car goodies for the year so i gotta do some junkyardin and ebayin to get the rest of what i need for the car before spring. gotta keep the lil woman happy!
ive got a lumpy cam and 3" exhaust and at idle the average joe wouldnt know its a 4 banger. ill try to post a video tonight of it. you might be impressed!!!
I can respect the four bangers, we raced arca truck series for several years and we ran eslinger 4 bangers and man they made gobs of hp. Its all in want you want though. For 30 yrs i have dreamed of a pinto with a set of 26x12.50s tucked up under the wheel wells and a V8 up under a closed hood and idleing into the frost top drive in with the headlights bouncing and now i got it. Man lifes good. And would LOVE to do that red light thing, two pintos red light to red light would be a awesome site. I might get beat but i will still be smiling ear to ear cause who ever would beat it would have one bad @ss car and would deserve a smile and handshake. Besides its all about having fun.
David
So has there ever been a turbo four versus V8 Pinto grudge race?
not that im aware of, but it does sound like fun!!!
Quote from: Pinturbo75 on October 27, 2009, 05:09:36 PM
i really dont understand why most of you hotrodders have so little faith in the 2.3 turbo? i have around 2700 in my car right now including purchase price and im just over 400 to the wheels now with a rough tune, a worked head, and a 175000 mile shortblock. itll cruise 75 and 80 all day long and gets 25 mpg . lets see you guys do that with the v8s. im planning to go 10s in the 1/4 early this spring. it will also get the finish tune and dynoed before i build the new shortblock.
so, how many of you can go 10s street legal and get over 20 mpg on the highway and still cruise over 65 mph safely????for less than 3k!!! :devil:
stir the pot.......
if i wanted to sound like a rice burnner i buy a honda. as far as mpg i would drive my wife's car. v8's sound great feel even better with a the shaking and the rumble ahhhhhhhhhhh! : :2fast4u::
if you think this sounds like rice you are nothing short of a retard!!!!
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/blacksheep1703/my%2075%20turbopinto/?action=view¤t=100_0804.flv (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/blacksheep1703/my%2075%20turbopinto/?action=view¤t=100_0804.flv)
Quote from: Pinturbo75 on October 28, 2009, 08:29:53 PM
if you think this sounds like rice you are nothing short of a retard!!!!
http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/blacksheep1703/my%2075%20turbopinto/?action=view¤t=100_0804.flv (http://s198.photobucket.com/albums/aa113/blacksheep1703/my%2075%20turbopinto/?action=view¤t=100_0804.flv)
all was in fun now you crossed a line butt hole i have a retared son and i bet he is more of a man than you will ever be or hope to be!
i thought this was a good bunch of people who love to be different and drive little cars some go fast some go slow i think you must be one of the slowwww ones (retard)
Quote from: harasyn92 on October 23, 2009, 05:33:28 PM
Well as the title says, i'm looking to start a pinto project of my own. Back in the day my dad had a 72 pinto with a 289H.P. swap in it. He's just wrapping up his 66 mustang restoration and we are looking for a fun project for this winter. Anyway we've located a 76 pinto sedan. My main question is what would be the most cost effective/simple swap for this pinto. My dad wants to put a non H.P. 289 in it but i'm leaning more toward a 5.0 or 351. What do you guys think??? This car will mainly be used for a summer fun car and the occasional drag weekend at the strips.
Back to your question and our answers. have you and your dad set a plan yet? Holler if I can help with any parts or opinions.
CB
toad, it wasnt meant to piss you off, sorry if you took it that way. its just pokin on the internet.youre gonna need to grow some thicker skin or get used to being mad. again sorry .
Ok guys... Lets stick to the topic please.
Thank you ( the Shiny police :police: )
Quote from: dholvrsn on October 28, 2009, 08:19:13 AM
So has there ever been a turbo four versus V8 Pinto grudge race?
no pintos but i used to have at it with a couple of guys in my home town with v8 vegas.
i'd say it was a pretty even match up most of the time. one of them could hook up but the guy was so slow as far as reaction times go it was pathetic. the other had no problem smokin the tires and that's where i got him. every time
A 2.3 with a good boosting turbo will be pretty fast, and its less weight. But ultimately, a V8 is cheaper, more reliable, and more powerful. Cant go wrong with a small block!!
Once again it's all about what your personal tastes are. If I had all the time and money to spare, now that I have the cruising wagon, I would put the V8 set up in the cruiser and put a turbo 2.3 in the '71. Yay! The best of both worlds!
Personally, I think the V8 is an easier swap, just because of the electrical parts of the fuel injected turbo. From what I have read on here, a lot of people curse that part of the swap. Because my job involves a good deal of electrical and electronics, that part would be a cake walk. For others, the thought of reading a wiring diagram gives an instant headache! :reek:
Also the extra relays, fuse(s), and home brew wiring to splice the turbo EFI harness ro the Pinto harness.
Although, you'd have to do much of the same thing to swap a late 5.0 EFI V8 or ilk into a Pinto.
I'm strongly biased towards turbo Pintos because I built one, but wouldn't a previously unmentioned problem be the 20 years for the parts to thin out, wear out, be discountinued, or hoarded? Plus aren't those turbo Fox bodies and Merkurs starting to ramp up in collector value?
when i started my Pinto it already had the 2.3 and such in it so i kept it and have tried to improve on it.
However that being said my favorite Pro Stock car was the V8 Pintos. I love that look and yes the street cars are very fast. I guess it is a matter of choice. To ME it is more important to be different and not see myself coming down the street.
Back to the original question, the kits are for the 302 motor and i understand that the higher deck block of the 351 complicates things a bit. Seems like an interesting choice, a 302 with a power adder or a 351/punched out to 408. Either way would be a wicked ride.
Remember the the thing that makes this site special is that we all have Pintos just done in the way we see fit and that is just the way it should be.
jim
The comments on this linked page show a Ford Taurus SHO V6 swapped longitudinally into an Austin Healey. So why not a SHO engine in Pinto? ;)
http://jalopnik.com/5312765/engine-of-the-day-ford-yamaha-sho-v6 (http://jalopnik.com/5312765/engine-of-the-day-ford-yamaha-sho-v6)