Hi all. Have manual brake setup on my wagon, but recently obtained a good booster. Two questions:
1) My car is manual 4 spd. Has anyone ever witnessed/did Ford ever sell a Pinto with power brakes and a manual transmission combo?
2) What master cylinder does the power brake setup use? Same as the manual one, except with the booster added?
3) Will the underdash pedal hangar accept a large (wide) power brake pedal alongside a clutch pedal?
Any light on these subjects greatly appreciated.
Chris
Chris
1) I have a 76 wagon with power brakes with a Merkur
5sp. I changed it from manual brakes to power. It was
a stick shift car.
2) The master cyl and booster I used is from an automatic
Pinto. The master cyl is different as it does not have
the rod that hooks to the pedal. That rod is on the brake
booster. Basicly you need a donor "setup".
3)I used a brake pedal from a MustII. with manual trans.
The reason you need a donor is because there is a
'PLATE' that goes on the firewall (inside) that allows you
to bolt the "4" bolt booster to the brake pedal steering
column bracket in place of the "2" bolt manual master cyl.
It is simpler than it may sound, but you have to drop the
afore mentioned pedal and column braket. I still have the
dash out of mine, and could send you some pictures if you
would like. If you archive "BRAKE PEDAL", Bill Rainey posted
pictures of the difference in the power and manual pedals.
I'm sure they made Pintos with this setup, but it is rare
I'm sure. It certainly is do-able. Let me know if you want
pictures.
Bill
Bill:
Thanks for the inputs. Pics would be great! You know, we actually pulled the PB setup from a Pinto w/V6 and auto, and I got the bracket that is under the dash, SO, I think I might be OK on that account.
Looking forward to seeing what you have! I think its great that you basically already have what I am trying to achieve!!
Chris
Quote from: blink77 on August 29, 2009, 09:10:40 PM
Chris
1) I have a 76 wagon with power brakes with a Merkur
5sp. I changed it from manual brakes to power. It was
a stick shift car.
2) The master cyl and booster I used is from an automatic
Pinto. The master cyl is different as it does not have
the rod that hooks to the pedal. That rod is on the brake
booster. Basicly you need a donor "setup".
3)I used a brake pedal from a MustII. with manual trans.
The reason you need a donor is because there is a
'PLATE' that goes on the firewall (inside) that allows you
to bolt the "4" bolt booster to the brake pedal steering
column bracket in place of the "2" bolt manual master cyl.
It is simpler than it may sound, but you have to drop the
afore mentioned pedal and column braket. I still have the
dash out of mine, and could send you some pictures if you
would like. If you archive "BRAKE PEDAL", Bill Rainey posted
pictures of the difference in the power and manual pedals.
I'm sure they made Pintos with this setup, but it is rare
I'm sure. It certainly is do-able. Let me know if you want
pictures.
Bill
HEY Bill!
When you did your conversion, how did you account for the width of the brake pedal vs. your clutch pedal? My problem? I pulled the PB setup from a V6 auto car, so it had a WIDE brake pedal. While everything fits in the hangar, the brake pedal is wide enough to hit my clutch, which does not exactly lend itself to driving :P.
I am probably going to cut down the pedal to make it small enough to fit a manual brake pad, or cut and weld some steel onto it to effectively offset it. The odds of me finding the correct lever/pedal from a car that had a manual transmission and power brakes is pretty slim....just wondering how YOU handled it. Thanks!
Chris
Chris
I used a power brake pedal from a Must II, with manual
trans. It is a direct bolt in. ALL auto trans brake pedals
(Pinto or Must II) are wide, and not made to be run along
side a clutch pedal.
Bill
Thanks, that really helped! This was one of those "lesson learned as I do it" things, now I am well informed!!
Chris