Anyone know the approximate weights of:
1) Pinto wagon with 4 cyl motor? It's a '76, standard wagon.
2) 4 cylinder 2.3L motor by itself?
Thanks!
Chris
2000 to 2300 lbs is what i could find on the web. Im pretty sure its closer to the 2300 mark for the wagons.
My stripped-out 76 'MPG' trunk 4spd car weighs an accurate 2400lbs empty. The MPG's are lighter than regular Pintos, and the wagon adds a bunch. It is NOT 2300. More like 2600-2800 i'm guessing...??
Someone here has a VERY comprehensive list ov EVERY Pinto model and variant ever made. That will answer your question. Now, where the hell DID i see that...??
I'd also like to know what a 2.3 weighs. I tried to figure that out before, and i got nowhere. Depending on who you ask its anywhere from a couple hundred pounds to near 500...
Depending on the car, the weight should be somewhere between 2500 and 2800.
When I picked up my long block, two guys just picked it up so it can't be that heavy. I don't have an acurate number but most probably in the 200s some where.
Chris,
I have no idea on the engine weight, but curb weight for a 1976 Pinto Wagon with 4 cyl. is 2635 pounds according to Consumer Guide's Encyclopedia of American Cars From 1930. Hope this helps.
Dwayne :smile:
Thanks guys. Getting ready to transport the car and trying to figure up weight. Shop that the car is going to also has a light hoist - I think it will handle the gruesome weight of the 4 cylinder. :P
Can't wait to get there, I am going to get a LOT done this Fall with the car being stored indoors. Should be a different vehicle when it emerges.
Chris
If I could find my sales lit, I could tell ya...
I DO know my pony sedan weighs 2600lbs NOT counting me. Years ago I had it on the scales at a rock and gravel yard about 10 times. Each time I drove out, the weight was 3400+! :o
That made the guys pulling tiny trailers with their luxo suvs look rather silly.
A truck? I don't need no stinkin' truck! (nor a 400/mo payment either!)
I imagine the wagon is about 2800-2900lbs.
chris i am going to look at my sticker on m v6 wagon today once home. ill post its eight. I was going by what researching it on the web told me. i will let you know what i find
Cool, thanks!!
Chris
Quote from: 75bobcatv6 on August 26, 2009, 01:09:54 PM
chris i am going to look at my sticker on m v6 wagon today once home. ill post its eight. I was going by what researching it on the web told me. i will let you know what i find
sence it was that simple 76 bobcat wagon with ac gvw 3932 front 1842 rear 2140
phil
Just weighted my 80 Pony with air and its 2375 with out driver and 1/2 tank of gas. 100% stock too.
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1971-1980-ford-pinto14.htm (http://auto.howstuffworks.com/1971-1980-ford-pinto14.htm)
Before I put the turbo in my bobcat I researched my various engine options.. I remember reading that the 2.3 4cyl. was only 50lbs lighter than a 302ci and I think that it wieghs in at 450lbs so that would put the 2.3 at around 400lbs and like the previous post I thought I read it somehwere on the site? Memories fade as you age some for the better some not.... ;D
http://www.35pickup.com/mulligan/weight.txt (http://www.35pickup.com/mulligan/weight.txt)
Heres a link.....418lbs
the GVWR on mine is 2965. I didnt look to see front or rear distribution.
My 73 with a 2.3 turbo big front kooler,T-5,9" 4 point bar, Glass front fenders tips the scale at 2368lb..
(http://inlinethumb51.webshots.com/44466/1464126636038663969S600x600Q85.jpg)
Quote from: 80bobcat on August 27, 2009, 11:37:54 AM
Before I put the turbo in my bobcat I researched my various engine options.. I remember reading that the 2.3 4cyl. was only 50lbs lighter than a 302ci and I think that it wieghs in at 450lbs so that would put the 2.3 at around 400lbs and like the previous post I thought I read it somehwere on the site? Memories fade as you age some for the better some not.... ;D
Heres a link.....418lbs
See, its lists like those that i had a problem with. HOW... exactly can that little thing weigh that much? I dont buy it, not for a second. A friend ov mine says he can lift one off the floor by himself (if only to slide something underneath, but still). He is strong for a lil' guy (180lbs haha), but an awkward 400+lb deadlift...?? He works out and can only deadlift 315lbs when its got a barbell attached...
Does the thing not have water jackets? Is it solid iron? A Cobra DOHC (all aluminum) 4.6L V8 weighs roughly 425lbs. Sure, its aluminum, but its also 7 feet wide and has all the same stuff inside a 4cyl has (steel crank, rods, pistons, FOUR cams, etc.). A Dodge 225 slant six weighs roughly 475lbs, and its way bigger than a 2.3 dimensionally, and not exactly a delicate engine when it comes to internal parts.
About the only 'evidence' to the contrary is that i've talked to several V8 Pinto guys with SB Fords that say their Pinto didn't really lose much handling when the V8 was installed. Going from a 200lb, hell, even 300lb 2.3 to a 450lb 302 would definitely change the way a car handles...
Something aint right...
I'm wondering if some of that isn't heresay information or if somebody overlooked that the engines are "dressed" differenty. A bare or nearly bare small block Ford with barely an alternator hanging off from it or less versus a "full dress" Merkur 2.3 turbo with the power steering and AC pumps plus brackets.
I scaled my 72 2.0 4-speed trunk model. it weighed 2240 with almost a full tank and the spare and jack in it. :)
the sticker shows weight / loading limits and its' proper distribution front & rear. The sticker doesn't show actual vehicle weight.
my '71 back in '71 or '72 was stripped to the bare bones with only the 2 stock (thin) front buckets, no back seat, no carpet, no sound deadener any where and lexan windows all around except the windshield with a 4 pt autopower bar weighed in at a bit less than 1800 on the truck stop scales. the scales they used were similar to what's in maps pic and were legal(calibrated properly and all that)
the link that map351 included in his original post is, i think, pretty accurate of stock vehicle weight