I'm asking, not telling!
As most of you know, I tried to sell my car recently and it didn't go. I tried to advertise it at what I consider 'market' value. Not Blue Book, not dealer trade-in...just around what similar Pintos seem to be selling for. I guess I either got it wrong, or they just aren't selling right now.
I know the economy is a factor. A lot of people will be turned off from a 'project' or 'hobby' car when money is tight. I also know that body style, mechanical configuration and popular options also factor in.
So the question is:
If you bought or sold a Pinto in the last 6 months, what was the 'agreed' price? The actual amount of money the car sold for, not asking price or 'percieved' value is what I'm looking for. I'd also like to know the body style and a simple condition: Poor, Fair or Good
If you think this isn't any of my business, send me a PM telling me why. If you want to share, but think your number will affect the market, you can PM me. Please don't chime in about why or why not this information is relevant. We have had discussions about what our cars are insured for, Blue Book, and what we think they 'should' be worth elsewhere. I'm just trying to put a finger on the 'pulse' of the market.
I know we all want the cars to be collectible and appreciate in value. This isn't about whether the cars are worth restoring or how much we should spend on them, that's a personal decision. :)
Don't put out my fire here, please, as I'm just curious. If you have another standpoint I should consider, I'm all ears. Like everyone else, I don't want to be shot down because of a 'pie-in-the-sky' price, and I'd like to know what they actually go for before I purchase another one. Who wants to pay $5,000 for a $500 car?
Respectfully...
Chuck :afro:
in my area a 78 squire wagon sold on ebay for $1800 pic looed good but was lised as had some rust.
locatin nw pa/sw ny area and it was taken to virgina.
there is also a 80 crusin wagon for sale (3 yrs) wants 3200 started at 5500
Seems within reason, Phil.
There were 2 Pintos here on craigslist recently. A 74 same body/mechanics and color as mine. Started at $1000 and dropped to $750 before dropping off the radar. Then there was a 79 wagon that started at $1200 and dropped to $800. Both of these needed much more work than my car. There's a 72 in Las Cruces for $1000 that 'needs everything', that's not encouraging, is it? I did spend a couple days looking thru e-bay, craigslist, etc, and seeing what they were listed for before I listed mine, and I did drop the price, but to no avail. I got more e-mails offering me insurance quotes on my 'next' from my ads than people actually asking about the car! There was a C/W on craigslist a few months back for $1450 (had been re-listed a few times) was silver with no paint on hood or roof. :(
Chuck :afro:
Hi Chuck I have a 74 beater runabout I use to go 8 miles to ship parts often. It would need a lot of money pumped into it to make it nice, I would want $500.00 for it. I have a clean all stock 76 Bobcat wagon has not been reg. since 99 was going to say $1400.00 but it will need all rubber and fluids changed so I would ask $1000.00. Fred :)
and what fred is asking for either of those cars i would pay. I plan on getting the 76 wagon=) see ya soon fred.
Pinto's are really neat 'n all, my favorite little car, but they'll never be worth much in my opinion. Around here there have been giveaways that nobody wanted. That 76 2.3, 4spd hatch i've been talking about in other threads was in nicer shape than mine, ran well, very little rust, and the guy couldn't give it away. In the end he begged me to give him $200, but i couldn't even come up with that, so his friend took it 'on payment' to swap a V8 into, and a year later its trashed and in the junkyard. My cool lil MPG 76 trunk 4spd Pinto sat on a very busy street, right up to the road with a forsale sign for a month... i got it for $300. I've seen others, but they're either later ones (i didn't check 'em out) or some V8 swap that some crackhead wanted five digits for (not nice swaps). A couple years ago some nice old guy offered me a cherry 72 trunk car, in apparently beautiful shape, low miles, for $500. Said he couldn't sell it and if i didn't want it he was giving it to the high school.
I was thinking ov selling mine last year, and i was gonna ask $1000, but my car runs very well, is a trunk model, and has cool looking 17" rims and Z-rated tires on it. It also looks better than any other pinto i've personally seen. Most people dont even know what it is. It would have sold for that.
Thats how it is here. This is racing/hotrod country. People building cars everywhere. Pintos just dont get the love...
Well it isn't within the 6 months, but just about 1 year ago that I bought mine.
1979 Hatchback,2.3 auto, no power anything, not even a radio. But it did have almost new brakes and exhaust. Lots of qtr panel, door, and hood rust, but floorboards good. Runs good, I drive it 32ish miles each way to work most days(except when I get to drive the wife's 07 Taurus with a/c).
I bought it off of a Craigslist add, turned out to be a guy from this group, his name was either Seth or Sean(sorry, can't remember) who also had a pro street Bobcat and was moving out of state.
He had it for sale for a while at around $700, no takers. I ended up paying six hundred something, again don't remember exactly.
This was by far the best car for under $1000 that I had seen, I wasn't even thinking Pinto, but the shape it was in sold me.
It really comes down to timing. You need to have a Pinto for sale when someone is looking for a Pinto in order to get decent money, otherwise you get someone like me looking for cheap transportation, not the vehicle of their dreams. :-)
But hey, a 1969 Mustang in the same shape as my Pinto would be selling for at least double. Most likely three or four times. So I own a Pinto, but I can at least work on it myself.
Russ
I paid 800 for my Bobcat. and it is in good condition. but i also got it from family. i know What i would pay for a car like Chucks. 1600-1800 is what i would expect to pay for one as nice and well cared for as his.
A $1500 Pinto looks three times as good as a $500 Pinto and twice as good as a $750 Pinto, but only half as good as a $3000 Pinto.... ;D
Thanks for the input guys! :)
I know my car is much nicer now than when I got it 6 years ago. It didn't run and was full of trash, and well, very used looking. I paid $300 for it. It seems a shame that now, after all the work, its worth no more in the shape it's in. :( I tried to stack mine up against what is for sale locally. Like I said, I've seen them start high and go low or be re-listed for what seems like months. I'd look to pay like half of what this guy wants:
http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/1258671128.html (http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/1258671128.html)
But that's his price. The car has been listed a few times now. I'd only jump if it was an auto at this point though. My car seems like just as good of a value head to head, it's just lacking the 'cool appeal' of the cruiser.
Chuck :afro:
This is what a $1500 Pinto looks like!!
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/TorinoStyle2/71Pinto003.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/TorinoStyle2/71Pinto002.jpg)
(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c11/TorinoStyle2/71Pinto001.jpg)
As many of you already know my '74 was $800 and I traded my Rickenbacker 330 and $100 for my '73 wagon. I couldn't put all the sellers were asking down right away, but they both understood and worked with me so I was very fortunate and the cars were meant to be mine, otherwise either deal wouldn't have worked out. In my eyes Pintos are very worthy cars- either you or someone you know/knew had one and they can bring back memories. Pintos will have their day. I (finally!) found a Hemmings mag that featured the lil' green Squire (man was that car gorgeous!) so don't be surprised if that piques the interest in other car collectors. I get a lot of positive reinforcement whenever I drive my Ford girls. Just you wait. Pinto's time will come. You also have to remember- in the end anything is worth what someone's willing to pay for it. :-\
Hey Chuck, did you see some of the other Pinto's for sale on e-bay? A teal green '78 with a $1400 buy it now, bid was at $900 when the auction ended and did not meet reserve. Didn't look as good as yours and the owner said he had $2500 invested. (???) (In Va. close to me!)
A sad looking and rusty non-running '73 with a starting bid of $500 and no bids.
A real nice yellow '79 wagon with a $1,000 starting bid and a $4500 BIN
I paid $350 for my Pinto ('71 trunk model, 1600 4-speed) two months ago maybe. I'd say it's in fair/poor, but overall solid and complete condition. Cracked dash, ripped front seats, sagging headliner, rust behind the rear wheels and a little in the floors. It does run well and has good tires.
The asking price was $450, I might have gone $400 on it, but the owner called me back and offered it to me for $350 before I had a chance to. It had been for sale locally for a year or more, was on craigslist for 2-3 weeks with no bites before I got to it.
Sat. I bought an 80 pinto wagon for $200.00. It is rusted up
to windows. It has 23,000 actual miles. It is in the worst
shape (rust) that I have ever seen. The upper control arms
are skeletons. The good part is it runs with gas out of a
Pepsi bottle,as the tank was rusted,and held in by a ratchet
strap. It also has almost all of the plastic int. parts in very
good shape, tan in color. The dash pad is perfect, but only
fits 79-80. $200.00? It was worth every penny!!!!! Chuck-I think
your car was fairly priced. Maybe, just a bad economy, or a
stroke of luck that YOU STILL HAVE IT!!!! Good luck in whatever
way it turns out.
Bill
chuck, i agree with blink77. i cant belive you still have it. it seems to be well worth every penny.
bob
ps. i wouldnt mind a stock pinto as a driver. maybe itll still be for sale when money comes back around...
Pinto pro, thats a damn nice lookin' Pinto you got there.
Thats the exact look i'm going for on mine. Except with really wide tires, flat black paint and fulla dents...
Quote from: blink77 on July 28, 2009, 05:32:19 PM
Sat. I bought an 80 pinto wagon for $200.00. It is rusted up
to windows. It has 23,000 actual miles.
Makes me wonder how such a low milage Pinto can get so rusty.
Shame it's an '80 too. My favorite year...
Doug
It was bought new by a freind of mines mother. she lived on a dirt
road that they salted in the winter and brined in the summer for
dust. She lived 3 miles from Saranac, and just took it to town.
she is gone now, and it sat behind her barn in a field for 3 years,
and then in a dirt floor barn for another 5 years. It has a lot of
good parts, but the body and under side are not them. The rear hatch
is very nice, but that is the only body part I'll be saving.
Bill
I'm interested in the rubber bumper corners if they're still good.
Doug
Which ones do you need? The rears are gone, and I dought
that I could get the front ones off, but I have others if
you need.
Bill
The more would be merrier because I'm trying to convert my '79 into a faux-'80.
Not that there's much of a difference.....
Quote from: Pale Roader on July 29, 2009, 07:43:40 AM
Pinto pro, thats a damn nice lookin' Pinto you got there.
Thats the exact look i'm going for on mine. Except with really wide tires, flat black paint and fulla dents...
LOL...then its the exact opposite!! ;D
This car is 100% rust free, runs and drives, but I have no use for it...it just sits. I have too many projects.