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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Carolina Boy on May 22, 2009, 01:48:49 PM

Title: new/old rear end question
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 22, 2009, 01:48:49 PM
Is there a set of 5 lug Ford axles (not custom made) that would interchange with the 4 lug of a Pinto 8"? I think this has been asked before.
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: 71pintoracer on May 23, 2009, 07:32:27 AM
CB, my 8" came from a '68 mustang, it had 5lug axles, I might still have them if you need a set. Let me know, I'll look through mt junkyard, no wait, scratch that, "salvage yard"  ;D
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 23, 2009, 09:52:03 AM
So, if I used those axles, they wouldn't have to be shortened, they would slide right in?
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: 71pintoracer on May 24, 2009, 07:45:38 AM
Yep, same axle. I think the Pinto and 6 cyl mustangs/mavericks were 4 lug, V8's were 5 lug.
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 24, 2009, 09:21:19 AM
You're temping me, 71. I am in the process of selling a few things, so I will have a little extra budget. Would you sell them to this old man? How would you ship something like that?
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: FCANON on May 24, 2009, 10:11:15 AM
Please remember the Mustang II V8 had 4 lug as well.

FrankBoss
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: phils toys on May 24, 2009, 11:32:46 PM
mavericks were 5 lug as well but my understanding is the axel is shorter
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 24, 2009, 11:45:27 PM
Shorter than a Pinto, WOW!
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 25, 2009, 07:41:50 AM
Quote from: iffy on May 25, 2009, 05:59:14 AM
Don't forget about V8's .

HUH?
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: 71pintoracer on May 25, 2009, 08:09:39 AM
CB, I looked, couldn't find them, sorry!  :(  My old faded memory now recalls that I traded the axles for a Maverick rear end with the 4 lug axles. I found the empty 8" housing and it all started coming back to me..... ::) ::)
I don't know about them being shorter, the Mustang rear was a bolt-in and the Maverick axles were the same.
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 25, 2009, 09:11:08 AM
Thanks for lookin'!!!
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: fastlane on May 28, 2009, 10:24:14 PM
I bought a 8" rear axle from a maverick a few weeks ago. This weekend I will pull the axles out of both 8" pinto and 8" maverick and measure them. I did a rough measurement of the housing, the spring perches were the same width but the backing to backing plate width was about an inch and a half narrower on the mav rear. I will let everyone know the results this weekend.
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: fordstuff on May 29, 2009, 08:58:43 PM
may be narrower there but i don't think that is a real important measurement. its face to face on the front of the drums where the wheels bolt on that is most important width after spring perches..  what measurement is that on each?... thanks. roy


Quote from: fastlane on May 28, 2009, 10:24:14 PM
I bought a 8" rear axle from a maverick a few weeks ago. This weekend I will pull the axles out of both 8" pinto and 8" maverick and measure them. I did a rough measurement of the housing, the spring perches were the same width but the backing to backing plate width was about an inch and a half narrower on the mav rear. I will let everyone know the results this weekend.
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Srt on May 30, 2009, 02:51:06 AM
Quote from: fordstuff on May 29, 2009, 08:58:43 PM
may be narrower there but i don't think that is a real important measurement. its face to face on the front of the drums where the wheels bolt on that is most important width after spring perches..  what measurement is that on each?... thanks. roy


that 'face-to-face' on the drums is important.  if it isn't near or just what you want or need then it's back to the drawing board or a whole lot of 'adapting'
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Cheeseliner on June 02, 2009, 04:42:43 PM
The old Bronco rear end was short. about 50 inches. they are a popular swap and have the 5 on 5.5 pattern.  :read:
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: orangekrush on June 05, 2009, 09:37:11 PM
ive got a 77 fairmont/granada 9 inch in the rear of mine. it bolted right between the springs. came out of a V-8 car
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Carolina Boy on June 05, 2009, 09:58:03 PM
I never thought about the fairmont having a 9". Good find Orange.
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: hellfirejim on June 07, 2009, 05:31:01 PM
I am trying to remember what it was but one of the set of axles was shorter and the problem was in the spline area.  Measure carefully.  I am old and trying to remember what it was. if i do i will post it up.
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Norman Bagi on June 10, 2009, 06:30:23 PM
Carolina Boy,

If you are looking for the axles and drums, here is a set on ebay if they don't go too high in price, you might get a deal.  I think a new set was in the $375.00 range, so if you get them for less than $250 with shipping, you made out good.  http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-Lug-Rear-Axles-for-8-Inch-Pinto-and-Mustang-II_W0QQitemZ180366426345QQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item29fead40e9&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C72%3A1171%7C240%3A1318

Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: fordstuff on June 25, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
prob not fairmont.. they came out in 78 and i think all were 4 lug like 79 up Fox mustangs  ..roy

Quote from: orangekrush on June 05, 2009, 09:37:11 PM
ive got a 77 fairmont/granada 9 inch in the rear of mine. it bolted right between the springs. came out of a V-8 car
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: Srt on June 26, 2009, 04:04:51 AM
Quote from: fordstuff on June 25, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
prob not fairmont.. they came out in 78 and i think all were 4 lug like 79 up Fox mustangs  ..roy


i had both  '78 & '80 Fairmont wagons that were purchased new.  They both had the real small v8 (255) and neither had a 9" axle under the rear.

the '80 had the motor replaced with a 5.0 mustang GT motor after the 255 lost a rod on a run from mammoth (california) to the Los Angeles area.  (previously had made the run in just under 3 hrs)

car ran like a r@ped ape after that!
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: pinto project on July 10, 2009, 10:15:16 AM
Quote from: fordstuff on June 25, 2009, 10:01:19 PM
prob not fairmont.. they came out in 78 and i think all were 4 lug like 79 up Fox mustangs  ..roy

i just got a 79 pinto yanked the 4 cy 4 speed and started with a v8 swap the motor mounts need to be a mii is that a mustang 2 ? or what and will the rearend from a fox body work from the 4 link to the spring style thanks email billroberds@aol.com  :accident:
Title: Re: new/old rear end question
Post by: fordstuff on July 10, 2009, 10:26:21 PM

yes mustang 2 (Mustang II) stuff .. if you use a fox body rear end you will have to cut of the brackets and weld leaf spring perches on the rear end.. plus im not sure on driveshaft yokes. my fox body has a flat flange on the pinion.. id go for a mustang II 8" out of a v8 Mustang II.... good luck with your awap.. roy

Quote from: pinto project on July 10, 2009, 10:15:16 AM
  i just got a 79 pinto yanked the 4 cy 4 speed and started with a v8 swap the motor mounts need to be a mii is that a mustang 2 ? or what and will the rearend from a fox body work from the 4 link to the spring style thanks email billroberds@aol.com  :accident: