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Title: misfire in one cyl
Post by: 78squirewagon on April 17, 2009, 10:46:46 AM
I have developed a misfire at idle on one cylinder and it has me stumped. I changed the plugs, wires, cap and rotor and it's still doing it. It seems ok at high rev but at idle, it sounds like I have a dead cylinder.

Any ideas would be appreciated before I take it to a shop


Mark
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: Fred Morgan on April 17, 2009, 11:01:18 AM
Mark compression check next.  Fred   :)
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: earthquake on April 17, 2009, 08:37:19 PM
Possable vacum leak at that cyl or burned ex valve.
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: 78squirewagon on April 17, 2009, 08:42:49 PM
Quote from: earthquake on April 17, 2009, 08:37:19 PM
Possable vacum leak at that cyl or burned ex valve.


Wouldnt a burnt valve cause it to smoke a little bit because there is no smoke. I did notice the number 2 plug having a different color than the other three. I am hoping that it's something simple but I will try and get it in to a shop next week. It's in the red wagon and I tend to baby it more than the rest.
Also, is it save to drive it a couple of miles round trip with it doing that?


THANKS FOR YOUR HELP?
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: Starliner on April 18, 2009, 09:32:01 PM
I take it's a 78!   (3?)

The electronic ignition on the late 70's Pintos are really dependable and put out a strong spark.
However, any marginal ignition parts will not be up to the task.   
So if your cap, rotor, and wires have more than 25,000 miles or two years old, I would just change them for maintenance and see what happens.   Motorcraft costs more, but worth it.   The money is not wasted because you would have needed them soon anyway. 
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: 78squirewagon on April 18, 2009, 10:37:07 PM
The cap, rotor, plugs and plug wires have less than 2000 miles (if that) on them. And yes, it's a 78   ;D
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: earthquake on April 19, 2009, 10:08:17 AM
A burned valve will not cause it to smoke.A compression test will find this.As for the possable vacum leak take a spray bottle of water and spray along where the intake meets the head and listen for a change in idle.If the idle drops you got a leak.A vacum gauge can tell you all this also.
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: Starliner on April 19, 2009, 10:30:50 AM
Recheck your firing order of your plug wires.

Buy a compression gauge.  Check you compression.  Check with the engine warm.

Change your PCV valve. 

Check all the vacuum lines.

Tap on the EGR valve first .  You may want to remove it and block it off with a plate for a test.
If the EGR has carbon and is stuck slightly open the car will act like that.
I really think this is the problem. 

For your carb...   With the air cleaner off and the engine running, rev the engine and then close the choke for a second.   Sometimes this can un plug a jet.   Now re-adjust the idle mixture screw.

Report back! 
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: 78squirewagon on April 19, 2009, 12:12:40 PM
Thanks guys, I will try all of this stuff. I dont think the EGR vavle is there anymore because I know the air pump has been removed. But I will go over everything and see what happens. All I have to do is look at the engine in my coupe and compair  :D
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: 78squirewagon on April 22, 2009, 10:06:56 AM
It must have been another bad wire or vacume leak because now she is purring like a kitten. It could be that she was just flat out jelous from all of the attention I have been showing the other two cars  ;D


Thanks for your help


M
Title: Re: misfire in one cyl
Post by: r4pinto on June 28, 2009, 02:27:31 PM
Mark, I am glad to have run across your post because my 77 is doing the exact same thing! Dropped in a distributor & got her running but now she has a missfire at idle. Going to buy some replacement plug wires & just leave them a bit long, even though I desperately hate that.