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Title: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on April 12, 2009, 09:22:25 AM
 I have a 1976 wagon witha 2.3  would like to put in a 1971/1973 2liter what would I need to do as far as motor mounts and will the 1976 4 speed bolt up to the 2 liter bell thanks for any help
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: fomogo on April 12, 2009, 10:42:17 AM
You can get custom dowel pins to use the 2.3 bell with the 2.0 block, not sure on hooking the newer 4 speed to the early bell.
$30 shipped. PM me if you are interested.


Jim
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on April 12, 2009, 10:50:54 AM
 I have bellhouseings for 2.3 and 2liter so all I need is the steped pins now what do I do about the motor mounts thanks for the help  Woodie
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: Fred Morgan on April 12, 2009, 11:09:26 AM
What year auto are you installing 2.3 in. Did you get sway bar with attach hardware.  Fred   :)
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: fomogo on April 12, 2009, 11:18:03 AM
I know to swap a 2.3 into an earlier car... you use later model mount towers in the early car.
Its possible that you may need to remove a set of early towers if you can find them.


Jim
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: 71pintoracer on April 12, 2009, 11:57:46 AM
You need the early model frame mounts, any year trans will bolt up to your 2.0 bell. You only need the stepped dowels if you use a 2.3 bell on the 2.0.
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on April 12, 2009, 01:14:46 PM
havent gotten the sway bar yet too soonmaby tommorrow I,m putting a 2 liter in a 2.3 liter car need early frame mounts   
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: pintoguy76 on April 13, 2009, 02:37:10 AM
How come you want a 2.0 instead of a 2.3?
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on April 13, 2009, 05:37:31 AM
 you can hang a lot more carbs on them
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: Wittsend on April 23, 2009, 02:42:29 PM
>>>"You can hang a lot more carbs on them."<<<

  Without trying to be insulting..., the point being???

I don't claim to be any sort of expert on available 2.0 / 2.3 intake manifolds, but I would think that similar designs exist. So, I'm not sure the 2.0 is your only option to attain this "more carbs" goal.

  Furthermore there are few applications where extensive carburetion is an advantage. Typically it is on an engine that has little or no torque at low RPM (not good for the street) and is designed to run at a sustained high RPM.  The cam, heads, valves, exhaust all need to be properly matched.

  While there are people who run dual Webers you should check with them as to the viability. They look cool, but are very expensive and take knowledge to properly tune.

Tom
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on April 25, 2009, 06:58:10 AM
 just an old hotroder trying something different  most of the multi carb setups I see are for the 2.0 thought it would be a better choice this is a popular motor in England them boys like them webers They have a few cams for that motor to I would like to try something with the Harley CV carb I could use some of that Knowledge stuff 
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: Wittsend on April 25, 2009, 09:53:30 PM
OK, got ya.  I thought you might be some crazy young kid with wild ideas.  Oldtimers (does 51 and plenty of gray hair qualify?),we do get to "tinker" and live out our dreams.
Tom 
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on April 26, 2009, 08:59:22 AM
 now I,m the crazy OLD guy
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: 71HANTO on April 26, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
I would go with the 4 barrel retrofit Fuelie set up for the street. 4 separate fuel injection side draft looking barrels, with some of the Weber-open the hood, WOW value on the street 2.0L, An O2 sensor in the exhaust and GO!!! :2fast4u:

I can't remember the name of the set up, but it shows up on Evil-Bay from time to time (I'm 55 so I'm at the age where I can still choose to forget :surprised:)

71HANTO
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on April 26, 2009, 03:54:28 PM
 thats funny I can,t rember when I need to
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: 71HANTO on May 07, 2009, 07:32:07 PM
Woodie,

Hilborn Fuel Injection Ford Mustang Pinto 2.0 2000 Race   Item number: E-Bay #280339352935 (Not the type I was originally trying to think of but a serious setup anyway) :2fast4u:

71HANTO
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: 71HANTO on May 20, 2009, 08:17:44 AM
Quote from: 71HANTO on April 26, 2009, 09:43:14 AM
I would go with the 4 barrel retrofit Fuelie set up for the street. 4 separate fuel injection side draft looking barrels, with some of the Weber-open the hood, WOW value on the street 2.0L, An O2 sensor in the exhaust and GO!!! :2fast4u:

I can't remember the name of the set up, but it shows up on Evil-Bay from time to time (I'm 55 so I'm at the age where I can still choose to forget :surprised:)

71HANTO

I remembered to remember...they're by Mikuni :fastcar:
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on May 20, 2009, 01:49:55 PM
what cam did they use on the mikuni setup? would it be any good on the street
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: 71HANTO on May 20, 2009, 02:42:30 PM
For the street, I would go with a cam profile that has a good flat power band up to 6500 rpm (HP and Torque). Others on this forum may have the direct cam #s/profile info or another opinion?

71HANTO
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on May 20, 2009, 06:18:32 PM
I was looking at  Kent cams they have 1 called a sport torque 1000/6000 range I think 440 lift whats stock Lift on a 2000 anyone know
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: 71pintoracer on May 21, 2009, 08:40:13 AM
.399
Title: Re: 2.3 to2liter swap
Post by: woodie on May 21, 2009, 02:34:02 PM
 thanks guys