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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Underdog76 on September 21, 2004, 05:40:10 PM

Title: Rotisseries
Post by: Underdog76 on September 21, 2004, 05:40:10 PM
Has anyone ever used a rotisserie while rebuiding/modifing/restoring their pinto?
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: Poison Pinto on September 21, 2004, 06:18:24 PM
No, but I seriously have considered building one to work on Poison.
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: Underdog76 on September 21, 2004, 06:41:20 PM
I'm probably going to just buy one. There is a company that sells real nice ones on ebay that have jacks on each end so that you can hook them up with the car on the ground and then raise it up. This will be a necessity for me as I plan on building alot of race cars. 
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: UltimatePinto on September 23, 2004, 07:46:13 PM
I saw a company that makes them in the front part of the October issue of Hemming's Motor News.
Don't recall who made them. Should be a snap to use on a bare bones Pinto.
Wish I had one for my current project.
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: turbopinto72 on September 23, 2004, 07:51:34 PM
 AH HA.......so you like using the  features :D
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: UltimatePinto on September 23, 2004, 08:16:29 PM
Yah Buddie ! !
As you indicated, learn by using.
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: turbopinto72 on September 23, 2004, 08:19:07 PM
MY PLEASURE
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: patcosca on October 17, 2004, 02:37:09 PM
Underdog76, did you end up purchasing the rotisserie?  I am considering one also.  How did/are you going to attach it on the rear?  I'm concerned the bumper mount area may not be strong enough on the early Pinto.

Anybody else have experience with one of these?
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: UltimatePinto on October 17, 2004, 08:06:53 PM
I don't think that using the bumper mounts in the rear would be a problem as long as you had the car stripped, inside and out. I can tell you from experience that all you have back there is a box of 14 gauge sheetmetal with a piece if 1/4" angle inside. The rear shackles bolt to it from below and the lower bumper bracket bolts into it from the top. I know this as I just cut mine, (72 Runabout), out and replaced them with a piece of 1/4" wall four inch square tube. See rear impact mod in this listing, General Pinto Talk.
I love the early models also. Unfortunately thats how the 71 and 72 models were made. I have a 71 Sedan that I will be doing the same thing to. I have just finished picking a 74 Sedan apart and noticed the the rear set up was completely different and a lot more beefy. I think that 73 was a transition year as from 74 on the front and rear suspension was changed over.
Al
in Ct.
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: patcosca on October 17, 2004, 08:41:52 PM
I'm worried the bumper mounts wouldn't be strong enough to support the car and it would cause serious damage if it buckled.  I guess it wouldn't take that much more to build a bracket that mounted into all four spring shackles to support the rear.  As long as it was below the pivot point, I think it would still roll over easy.  Another problem I may have is height clearance.  My garage ceiling is about 8 feet high, it should work, but it will be close.
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: UltimatePinto on October 19, 2004, 06:34:58 PM
Centering the balance between the four points would definately have to move towards the front if you were to leave the vehicle complete minus the drive train. I would think that the front mounts could take the strain with no problem but the rears by themselves, no way. The doors and then the interior add  an considerable amount of weight
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Two pieces of angle iron at least 3/8" thick could be used to connect the two spring mounts on each side, as measured from a common reference ,shims added as neccessary to maintain a fair amount of parallel, (SP?), with the ground. I would guess that the rear is higher than the front. Then the two sides could be connected with a common, centered, load bearing piece that would accept whatever pivitiong device practiceable.

Don't forget that there are holes in the sub frame behind the front spring mounts that may also be used for this potential setup.  I have an early SPEARCO anti axel hop unit that used these holes for a connecting bar. This may mean not using the rear tap's altogether, which would probably be the better choice.

Any way -  Go to   www.accessiblesystems.com  for some ideas. That's the outfit I mentioned before. Often, all you have to do is to study the image and let your imagination and accessibility to materials do the rest.
I've built an acceptable pressure sandblaster doing the same.

In my opinion Detroit stopped making acceptable vehicles in 73/74. As far as acceptable response, (when prepared), and sheer driving FUN ! , the Pinto, (with rack and pinion), was  THE  best of the seventies!
My first Pinto love is with the 71/72's, with the 73's a close second. However I love all of the production line for their mostly ease of interchangeability.



Rock On !

Al
in Ct.
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 20, 2004, 10:07:10 AM
Good info......... :)
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: Merc51 on October 20, 2004, 12:41:33 PM
fyi
I few years ago I read an AD for a device that you would bolt to the wheel lugs on the rear and front of a pinto / mustang. The car could then be rolled (by one hand) over on it's side for easy access to the underneath. It was a steel "cage that was balanced so it would roll with the car on the "inside". the bolting locations were the lugs. Very simple system that worked. They were made by a company in or near London Ontario Canada.

dennis
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: Merc51 on October 20, 2004, 12:48:03 PM
Found it !!!!

check out ...
www.kars.com/showcase/mps/

yes London Ontario Canada.

Dennis
Title: Re: Rotisseries
Post by: turbopinto72 on October 21, 2004, 08:47:09 PM
You have got to love the 2x4 propped up on the belly of that MB.