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Title: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: MBSSR on February 26, 2009, 12:29:40 AM
I have a late 80's ranger engine I'm working on. It's a 2.3L/140, same block and heads as the original 2.3L/140 that came in my 1980 Pinto. I am trying to get a intake manifold from another member of PCCA. He said he had a German 2000 Pinto engine. Is this the same engine as far as just bolting a intake on, or is it a completely different engine all together?
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: oldkayaker on February 26, 2009, 05:44:48 AM
Sorry, they are different engines.  The manifolds do not interchange.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 26, 2009, 05:52:26 AM
I had a post a few days ago in General  Forum about the same thing, The 2000 and 2300 engine are completely different. I also want a 4 barrel on my 78 Pinto 2.3. What I was told is take a lower EFI manifold from a 86-94 2.3 Ranger, go to Walsh Racing for the adapter and bolt on a 390 Holley carb. You will be dumping a lot more feul in so you should run long tube headers and up grade your cam a little.
I am no expert like some of the guy on the site but I do trust them and their knowledge. They haven't steered me wrong in the past.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: hellfirejim on February 26, 2009, 01:07:02 PM
Just to let you know there are other options available.  There are 4 brl manifolds made for the 2.3 and the one i am familiar with is the offy.  If you go to projects and look at my thread [project shurtagul] you will see a number of entries on the intake and carb i used.  just some additional information for making a decision on which way to go.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 26, 2009, 01:53:02 PM
In the other thread you mentioned an efi from a early 2.3. Is this what it should look like?
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: 71pintoracer on February 26, 2009, 02:19:50 PM
Thats the one!  :)
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Pinturbo75 on February 26, 2009, 03:14:41 PM
just remember to plug the injector bungs... ::)
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 26, 2009, 09:20:01 PM
Thanks, I going to ebay right now.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: turbo74pinto on February 26, 2009, 09:30:57 PM
a little pricy but...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FORD-MUSTANG-PINTO-2-3-OFFEHAUSER-4V-INTAKE_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a10Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem250380086652QQitemZ250380086652QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

bob
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: pintoguy76 on February 27, 2009, 02:21:14 AM
The part of the manifold on the 2.3 that the carburetor bolts to is just an adaptor. Dont they make an adaptor that will bolt on to the stock intake to allow for a 4 barrel carb?
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: 71pintoracer on February 27, 2009, 08:04:18 PM
I have one for a 2bbl, I used to run a 350 Holley on a stock intake and a lot of the roundy-round guys use the adapter. Never saw one for a 4bbl but a 4bbl on a 2bbl intake is not the greatest set up. Kind of like a funnel!  :lol:
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: earthquake on March 15, 2009, 08:59:01 AM
Mr Gasget used to sell them seen lots of them on the shelves but never new anyone that used one.Or at least admitted to it.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: spitfire on May 04, 2009, 09:39:11 PM
 I have an Offy 4bbl Intake for a 2.3, set up for a 390 Holley, collecting dust in my Garage, because I have a 2.0 in my Ride, and can't use it.
If you're looking to buy one, I'd be willing to sell it for $100.00

  Rick- superpinto@aol.com
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: dholvrsn on May 04, 2009, 09:50:42 PM
How well did those split passages work in real life?
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: earthquake on May 04, 2009, 10:52:20 PM
It depends on who you talk to.It is supposed to give better throttle response and mid range power due to higher intake velocities,but I think in the long run they just restrict top end power.Still better than a 2 bbl.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 04, 2009, 11:35:16 PM
Spitfire, Is that $100 firm? I had a line on a 2bbl manifoldfrom a guy on here but he's vanished.
I was looking for a 4bbl at first for my 78 2.3.
Let me know if we can deal. my zip is 27516

sharpe53@hotmail.com

I have sent you an email.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: hellfirejim on May 05, 2009, 04:46:23 PM
Quote from: earthquake on May 04, 2009, 10:52:20 PM
It depends on who you talk to.It is supposed to give better throttle response and mid range power due to higher intake velocities,but I think in the long run they just restrict top end power.Still better than a 2 bbl.

I have an offy that is a split port with a 4 brl.  The response is great.  As for top end I worked around that problem by doing some port work on the secondary side of the manifold.  More plenium area and such.  I have only had a small time to try it, it seems to work well.
jim

PS: this is just a street toy so the response is perfect for the street.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 05, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
Hellfire, Other than using the manifold, did you add anything else, like a cam and headers?
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: earthquake on May 06, 2009, 05:26:24 AM
Headers are a necessity and you should install a bigger cam.The 4 bbl is a little too much for a stock motor.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 06, 2009, 09:26:18 AM
That's what I thought.
Now If only Spitfire or 71pintoracer would sell me a manifold. :rolleye:
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: 71pintoracer on May 06, 2009, 12:29:48 PM
CW, you know I would help you if I could...the only 4bbl intake I have is for a 2.0.  :cheesy_n: When I sold my dirt track car most of the 2.3 stuff went with it. BTW...thought you were putting a V8 in your ride??  ???
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 06, 2009, 01:28:12 PM
I AM going to V8 my ride but not for awhile. I am going to hop up the 2,3 for ride around fun while I get parts together for the swap. You kmow, drive to local shows, get it Macco painted, burn some rubber, have fun. Otherwise the car would have to be trailered for work done to it like the painting and bodywork. When I do do the swap I can sell the 2.3 ready to go into someones car already souped up. It will also fund the swap.

I have the 5.0 and T5 already. When I do the swap, the car will have been stripped, blasted, primed and painted. I want to rebuild the 5.0 first before shoehorning it in next year.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: 75bobcatv6 on May 07, 2009, 01:36:02 AM
maaco out here sucks lol I got to Auto body world. They will paint it as i want without Taking me to the bank...
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: hellfirejim on May 10, 2009, 08:20:11 PM
Quote from: Carolina Boy on May 05, 2009, 05:32:56 PM
Hellfire, Other than using the manifold, did you add anything else, like a cam and headers?

Sorry i am late to the party.  Yes i added a modified ranger header that ends in a 2 1/2 exhaust.  I haven't been able to drive it since putting in the turbo block but is was responsive before.  it just sits and idles and when i hit, it just goes.  You have to remember that I am using a 450cfm holley 4 brl that has pregressive linkage so i am starting out as a two barrel till I really start to put my foot into it.  The reason for that size carb is I am going blow through down the road.
Title: Re: Putting a 4-BBL intake on a 2.3
Post by: Carolina Boy on May 10, 2009, 09:54:04 PM
 :accident:
Looks as though I will be putting the 2.3 and the 5.0 on hold. Just found some major repairs to be done on the 2.3. :mad: Also, finding more rust in the passengerside floorboard, :'( has put a damper on everything. >:( I 'm going to have to try and rebuild the 2.3 due to a cracked head and severely scared #2 cylinder.(see post: My new Pinto, the sequel, Pt. III) I hope it isn't to deep. If it IS bad enough, I will just part the 2.3 out and start in on the 5.0 rebuild. Heck I couldn't find a manifold I wanted anyways. Thanks for all the help, I won't forget it!