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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Carolina Boy on February 23, 2009, 02:06:55 AM

Title: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 23, 2009, 02:06:55 AM
I am doing some reseach for my build book since I'm restricted to light work.
1. I keep seeing the 2000cc 4 barrel manifold for sell.
Was there a 4 barrel setup made for a 2300cc? Would the 2000cc work on a 2300cc???
2. Which headers fit the best on the 78 2.3?
3. When I replace the 6.75" rear off my car with the 76 8", I can use my driveshaft?
4. Would changing over to an electric fan free up any HP?

Later freinds,
Carolina Boy
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: turbo74pinto on February 23, 2009, 06:15:02 AM
1. there is a 4 barrel intake for the 2.3.  one comes up every now and then on ebay. i dont know if a 2.0 can be addapted to a 2.3.
2. i had an old hedman header on mine, it rubbed the inner fender.
3. i think they are a little different length, but im not possative.
4. it definately will.  for what its worth, i had a painless wiring electric fan kit in my mustang and i had nothing but problems with it, the sensor and the relay went out all the time.  i just ended up running it to a toggle switch.

bob
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: Pintosopher on February 23, 2009, 08:19:56 AM
 The Pinto 2.3 & 2.0 heads are from different engine groups. The 2.0 head is European, the 2.3 is US or Brazilian. Not worth the trouble to try to interchange or modify. Esslinger or a Offy manifold is the way to go for the 2.3 and 4 bbl.
Headers : Esslinger or Schoenfeld . motor mount may need mod

Drive shaft, I used mine from a 6.75 and 4 cylinder when I went to 8" rear no problems.
Electric fan : you bet it's worth the trouble, But I mounted mine on the outside of the Radiator between the grill and such . I've been accused by my competitors of used the fan to "pull " the car through the air faster ;D
Look in Ebay under Offy mustang 4cyl 4 bbl, found one!
Pintosopher
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: 71pintoracer on February 23, 2009, 08:11:52 PM
You can also get a 4bbl adapter to fit an EFI intake.
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 24, 2009, 08:04:41 AM
71pintoracer,
Would you care to elaborate on that setup? Sounds interesting ;D
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: hellfirejim on February 24, 2009, 12:35:10 PM
If you look in "My Project" for my thread [Project Shurtagul] You will some entries for the 4 barrel manifold and a good kit for the electric fan.  Almost forgot.  I also used a ranger tubular header [modified] for my pinto and it fell into place.

jim
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: 71pintoracer on February 24, 2009, 04:29:43 PM
Ranger lower EFI intake looks like a 4-barrel intake but the mounting holes are not the same as the carb, Racer Walsh makes an adapter to mount the 4-barrel. You can probably pick one up at a yard, I see the intakes and the adapters on e-bay from time to time.
The Ranger "header" will fit but they don't flow. The only advantage over the cast is weight. If I were running a 4-barrel I would get a good full length header. My .02
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 24, 2009, 09:20:03 PM
What year Ranger should I find? I did go to the walsh site and found the adapter. Should I think about a cam change or would a 450 holley work OK if I have long tube headers?
I'll be gettin rid of a lot of anti smog junk, right?
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: 71pintoracer on February 25, 2009, 06:48:22 PM
I'm thinking about '86 to '94, mustang and aerostar had them also.
A cam upgrade would be nice, the stock cam gives up at about 5000.
I always ran a 390 so I don't know if the 450 will be too much or not.
Can the smog junk.
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: arkyt on February 26, 2009, 01:10:46 AM
I've had better luck on craigs list.  recently bought an Offy dual port for half the price on ebay and set of new chrome headers for under $100.  The 390 CFM is the way to go.  Good luck on your project.
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 26, 2009, 05:59:58 AM
No wonder I couldn't find one, you bought it, :lol:
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: 72pair on February 26, 2009, 07:14:15 PM
Hey CB,
Some sunny weekend if you're up to a 2 1/2 hour ride, come south to Rock Hill,SC and I'll show you some parts. I have an Offy 2.3 dual port 4 barrel, a couple efi intakes -I use 2 barrel carbs, a Hedman 2.3 header, a Pacesetter 2.3 header, and a bunch of 2.0 stuff. Just thinking you might want to see actual parts before you commit to buying. Shoot me a PM if interested. JT 
Title: Re: 4 barrel 2.3???
Post by: Carolina Boy on February 26, 2009, 09:15:48 PM
72pair, Thanks for the offer. ;D Can I have a rain check on that as it will be awhile before I can make such a long trip due to my recovery. :( I did see a 4barrel setup on ebay today by OFFY but the bidding started at $245. :amazed: What do they run new? ???
Gee, could I buy one of yours ;D :angel: