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Feb. 17, 2009
After the 80 wagon let down and the change of heart on the 76. The 1978 Hatch restore has started. Started the strip down of the 76 today. I pulled the interior front and back. The hatch was next and it came off soooo easy. I will need new hold up tubes (I don't know what they are called). I pulled out some dash parts that hadn't been trashed. Will need a radio bezel. Tomorrow I plan on getting the wheels (Fairmont 14s) and the rear end, springs and all.
I am also going to pull the front sheet work off and the bumpers, maybe the doors. I don't know how to take the  stationary 1/4 glass out, but will try. After tomorrow I won't be able to play with the cars for about two weeks due to my sugery on Thursday morning. About the first week in March, check the classifieds for parts from my project that I didn't use.

Feb. 18, 2009
Woke up to cold weather and rain, will have to wait to strip till after sugery :(

Good luck with your surgery Carolina Boy. We're pullin' for you!

Thanks for the support. ;) It will be a real pain in the neck :lol: I will return!! :drunk:

I have a few radio bezels laying around, they are suitable for different purposes. What kind of radio do you plan to put in it? Factory AM? 8 track? CD? I pull every one I see at the junkyard, and that's one part I've learned to keep on hand (It's my thing!) Let me know, and if I can't match you with one I have, I'll go hunting!

Chuck

 :lol: quite literally! That's what they make pain meds for! You'll live to march another day, soldier!

p.s. Prayers for a speedy recovery Carolina Boy!

Chuck

Thanks again for the prayers and support. Just so all will know, it is a cervical fuzion in two places to add to the earlier 3. I will end up with 5 Vertabrae fuzed together (3/4" shorter). :lol: The surgery is 9:30am Thursday with two nights in the hospital. I will be typing again Saturday night. :sleep:

I will take you up on that bezel, Discolives, don't matter about the color and I will be putting in just a stock AM radio. Mine is cut up, do you need it for anything? Just email me with a total$.

Thanks again guy and gals,
Carolina Boy

Send me a pic of the face of your radio and measurement of the square opening your radio will cover. How is your old one cut? for a cd deck? Maybe we can work out a trade.

I feel for you with back problems, my mom broke her hip when she was 12 and developed degenerative arthritis. At one point her back and hips had 3 metal rods. She underwent 6 surgeries before I graduated high school. When I was a kid she would be home in full body casts and other braces and such. She eventually had both hips replaced (one twice, long story).

Chuck

Good luck with the surgery and here is for a speedy recovery.   :)

   -beegle55

Discolives,
Just sent you an email

My Mom, who was a registered nurse all her career broke bones in her lower back in her early 20s. She lived with the pain for as long as she could til she had those affected vertebrae fused. Her only regret was not doing it sooner.

Well I got out if the house today. ;D Had to charge the body's batteries(and I was driving the other half nuts) :devil:. Buddy and I went and finished the 76 strip. :amazed: She gave up alot of thing :angel: that I have now put up for sell over in classifieds. ;D Sent discolives his rubber baby bumpers. :) Came home and tinkered with the 78. 8) We Flushed the radiator and then changed the plugs, wires, battery, and oil. :) It wouldn't start, nothing, OH NO!! ??? Attached the battery cables and She fired right up. ::) Blew the smoke out and heard a clank in the back ??? Muffler had fallen off, so that's why it was so loud! HMM :lol:
We threw Her in to gear and rode up and down the street. WHOOPPIE 8) She drove pretty good.
Went ahead and put Her back in the driveway and let Her rest. That was a lot for my first day so I went and took a nap. :sleep:

Glad to hear you are out and about, my friend.  Take care not to overdo it!
Dwayne :smile:

Spent a little time with the old girl today. :D Sanded down the drivers fender nice and smooth and put it in primer. 8) Worked a bit on the hatch, decided to stick with the full glass. :look: Took the spoiler off the 76 hatch. I am going to use it on the 78. ;D Had to do some cutting and fitting. :amazed: I carved out a section to incorporate the handle. I'll have to do a bit of fiberglass magic. ;D
Do have a question though, how do you drill a hole in glass? ??? It is for mounting the spoiler. 8)

Do have a question though, how do you drill a hole in glass? ??? It is for mounting the spoiler. 8)
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VERY CAREFULLY :lol: :lol: :lol:

Seriously, I'm sure they make bits for doing that but if it were mine, I'd be thinking 3M Automotive Adhesive Products.  Much safer ;)!

Dwayne :smile: 

Ya know that there is a good idea! Why make it harder than it needs to be. See, you maight have saved me a bunch of money. Going to take some pictures today for ducumentation of the project.

I agree..glue it. The auto glass is tempered and will crack if you try to drill it. I went through this with my 69 Mustang that has glue-in windows (factory). I wanted to put some bolts thru the glass to better hold them in the channel but is not possible once the glass is tempered. I could have changed everything $$$ to 1970 Mustang (has the bolted in factory upgrade) but I re-glued mine til' they go again. 71HANTO

Dually noted and understood. Which glue? ???

Had two setbacks today. Found that the headlight covers (door?) are coming apart. I will have to find some more later. I didn't know they were rubber till I tried to remove them. I wonder if the 76's would work? The fender are the same?
The 76 and the 78 had the same hoods, Right? The 78s hood is so rusted and pitted it needs changing. My buddy's coming over tomorrow to help pull the interior. I hope I don't find any holes.

I'm thinking the light bezels and the hood were similar to the '71-'75 on the '76. The grille and front signal lights were different. The '77-'78 had round headlights but squarish bezels. Hmm... now I'll have to look...

Quote from: Carolina Boy on March 08, 2009, 08:31:38 PM
Dually noted and understood. Which glue? ???

Robert,

In a case like that, I would check with an automotive specialty shop... one who supplies paint, adhesives, etc. to the body shops, and ask their recommendation.
My inexpert opinion is that something like JB Weld or any good epoxy would do the trick.  Depending on the amount of surface contact you have, you may even be able to use automotive-grade double-sided tape.  Good luck and let us know how it turns out!

Dwayne :smile:

Rain rain and more rain. My out doors garage is cold and full of rain. >:( I haven't been able to touch the car. I have been doing some build book work though.

I want to take this time to thank Mike, Tony, and Phil for the new parts. Also, thanks go out to all the guys and girls for all the help, how to info, and some good laughs while I have been recouperating. I hope to return all the favors by building my car and showing it off to yall. I am here for yall anytime I can help!

As you know my car is a 78 hatchback with a 2.3 and 4 speed. The advice I need is, am I going the right way? :-\ I will be driving it daily. Go to shows and want to smoke a Ricer every now and then. I am not looking to build a 1/4 mile, 8 sec car :police: :lol:, just a simple fun show off car. 8) :devil:


This is what I'm sure about:
rebuilding the engine and DE-smogging.
Boring .030 over
shaving the head, w/ port and polish
I will use long under chassis headers (1-3/4" w/ 2-1/2 collector)
2-1/2" exhaust pipe to the side, in front of rear wheel
Offy 4 barrel manifold with 390 cfm Holley
MSD ignition and distributor
8" rear
14" wheels and tires (215/70/14)

Yalls advice from here?
Which rear gear ratio
Cam duration and lift
Fuzzy dice or cross

Yall know I value your opinions highly. Any help?

Well, the only advice I could give would be, fuzzy dice!!!! I think they are more period correct!!!!!!  ;D

Carolina Boy,
The cylinder head and Cam specs should have a common goal, increased flow for the type of powerband and driving style. If you do a bit of research on the heads the D style intake ports are the way to start a good head. Get a roller style cam for Longevity and RPM. Remember the valves have to flow better at Half lift twice in a rotation, and total lift doesn't always make for a drivable engine on the street. Lobe centers are important (108-110 degrees) Duration  288 degrees ,and the exhaust can really mess up the cam efficiency if it's too large.
Gears, 3:50 to 3:70
I'll give up the  floor here..

Pintosopher

Pintogirl, Fuzzy dice it is :lol:

Pintosopher, This is why I ask questions. I get the lobe center and duration, I'm still at a loss on lift. Summit has a Comp Cam with close number as you suggested. Lobes at 110 degree, duration is advertised at 272 INT&EXH (226 at .050 lift, INT/EXH), 1500-5500 rpm. What do you think of this cam? (STOCK# 70-127-6)
Rear gear is noted.

Do you think I can squeeze at least 150 HP?

Quote from: Carolina Boy on March 24, 2009, 07:06:35 PM
As you know my car is a 78 hatchback with a 2.3 and 4 speed. The advice I need is, am I going the right way? :-\ I will be driving it daily. Go to shows and want to smoke a Ricer every now and then. I am not looking to build a 1/4 mile, 8 sec car :police: :lol:, just a simple fun show off car. 8) :devil:
This is what I'm sure about: rebuilding the engine and DE-smogging.Boring .030 over
shaving the head, w/ port and polish I will use long under chassis headers (1-3/4" w/ 2-1/2 collector)2-1/2" exhaust pipe to the side, in front of rear wheel Offy 4 barrel manifold with 390 cfm Holley MSD ignition and distributor 8" rear 14" wheels and tires (215/70/14)
Yalls advice from here? Which rear gear ratio Cam duration and lift Fuzzy dice or cross
Yall know I value your opinions highly. Any help?

First off...I know nothing about 2.3s except the bump stick is on top. But the cam of any engine is the heart and in my opinion,  ALWAYS  the  place to start. Everything gets built out from that...hopefully, all balanced to work together. THE biggest error people make is thinking if big is better, than BIGGEST IS BEST.....WRONG!! :amazed: BALANCE of the combination of parts and porting is the key. Based on your information above, I would focus on a cam profile that emphasizes TORQUE numbers. Torque is what accelerates the car. It is the measurement of the twist force to the drive shaft. The more twist force, the more burnt rubber and burnt ricers ;D Why do some people build 460 low RPM boat anchors?...MASSIVE TORQUE.  Based on your tire choice (you might like 60 series better overall), I would go with the plentiful 3.40 rear gears and obligatory hanging High School (or college) Graduation Tassel ;D

71HANTO


 

I have decided to name the car Bandit. That is the name of my bestest dog buddy I saved from the pound in 1992. He was my car dog. My 69 Fairlane Torino was named after him. No matter where he was, rattle the car keys and he was there at the door, ready to go. I lost him to pancreatic cancer in 2003 :angel:, and sold the car in 2004 :'(. Okay, dry your eyes. I'll talk about the car, sorry Bandit.

Worked on the "Bandit" today. Switched out the hood, head light bezels, removed the front bumper. Sanded down the passenger fender and repaired the rear plastic whatsitcalled panels inside the hatch area. I am having lots of fun with wire wheels, sandpaper and primer.

Out of the blue, I had a guy come by today, said he'd like to buy my engine and trans. :surprised: Said he was a racer. I told him I wasn't interested but he left his number anyways. His offer was $500 or trade for his 1986 Mustang LX 302(V4)/T5 that has been rear ended and totaled. He said the engine runs and the trans is fine. I have had, going to a 302/T5 setup, on the back burner for "Bandit". I wonder if I should check this deal out? That sure would give Bandit more bark and bite! :lol:

Rust holes Pulled up the carpet today and found rust holes. They aren't big about 3/8" round is the biggest. I have heard about this POR-15, is it any good? Short of having to cut a floor board, how would yall fix the small holes. The floors are still pretty solid, my wire brush knocked the rust off and I see good metal.
I guess yall can tell I ain't a body man, but I'll try anything once.

Pulled the anti-pollution crap off today and plugged up the holes. The battery tray andfender underneath is rust free. Sanded and primed after removal of the tray.
I have got the front fenders and hood all  the same color of primer after wet sanding for about 4 hours. Hope to start in on the doors tomorrow. They both have the typical rust holes in the bottom corners. May have to break down and get a mig and do some welding, don't like to use a lot of bondo.

If you will check out the thread "Popbumper's '76 wagon" in the Projects folder, you can see how I repaired my floors with POR-15 - and how beautifully they turned out. I >highly< recommend it.

PS - the fiberglass mesh in the floor and trunk repair kit that POR-15 sells is awesome. You saturate it with the POR-15, and once on your floor, the mesh dries rock hard - you can bang on it with your fist and it won't budge. This is the best way to fix small holes besides replacing floor pans.

Chris

I'll bet your car's namesake is gazing down from the heavens in warm approval. I'll also bet he'd rather be riding in the car next to you being co-pilot than in Paradise. :'( :angel: :)

Ya know, blupinto, I just happen to have his picture taped to the dash board. :angel:

You know I mean spiritually! But it is nice you've put his picture in the new car to help be close to him.  :angel:

All my angel pups are waiting just accross the Rainbow Bridge. :angel:

Mine too. I'll bet my Star is flirting with your Bandit right now.  :angel: :) :angel:

I'll tell him to be nice to her in my prayers tonight :rolleye:!

Star was an irrepressable flirt. Though she was spayed she was a coquette and bumped her rump provocatively into whatever male dog she set her sights on- til he puts the moves on her, that is! Then she defended her virtue! lol.  :lol: :angel: She was my best friend of all time. I still miss her. :'(

I was able to mount (adapt) a 2 1/2" exhaust on the Bandit today. Went from the 2" head pipe to a glasspack and out with 2 1/2 ending in a chrome 3" slash cut tip just in front of the rear wheelwell on the driverside. Sounded mellow and mean but not to loud. Got the engine tuned up with the usual, plugs, new wires, oil, and timing. Got to say even though it is bone stock, it runs and sounds good. Next on the plate is finding a performance intake, headers and cam. That my take a little time. Oh well, at lease:

                     :drunk::devil:IT"S ALIVE, HA HA HA :devil: :drunk:

Great to hear! For the cam I have noticed some on eBay a time or two. Wouldn't hurt to check on there

After I snag a hot manifold and headers, I will get the cam.
Worked on Bandit today. Tightened up the new exhaust for now. Will have to modify the exhaust again when I get the header. Finished up the short shifter Mods and installed it. That is short but the throw is about 2 inches. In stalled the reverse spring mod and that tightened up the shifter and has gave it a firm shifting feel. Finished cleaning up the interior and installed the Black seats to drive with. Need to sell both sets before I can buy the Summit high backs. Yes I found more rust in the front floor pan. It is pretty bad. I don't think POR-15 is going to help me there. Hope to install the 8" next week. Freind of mine overhauled it and gave me a 4.11 setup. Drove it around the neigborhood a little today. Started smoking some. It is white smoke so I quess the valve seals are giving up the ghost. But man it is so fun to get on it a tad, go thru the gears then down shift, ber rapp rap!!!! I feeel like I'm 40 again.

White smoke? I would think if it were valve seals it would blow blue smoke. Atleast that is the color smoke my 77 blew when I had bad valve seals. Might want to check into a head gasket. It could be gone or going bad. Cylinder leakdown test is a good place to start.

 :tgif: You are right. I got my smoke mixed up. Blue is oil and white is a too rich carb. Mia coopa! :lol: Could be way it misses sometimes.
My carb has seen better day and maybe should be rebuilt or replaced. Of course the tubing has been messed with because I de-smogged it. I might have plug some thing or ran the tubing wrong. I can't wait to get another manifold and get a simple carb.
Would you know if putting a stonger coil (75k)would help it fire better?
What did you think of my new shifter. Short huh?

I thought black smoke was too rich carb and white smoke was water/ coolant...? ??? :read: :tgif:

Which ever it is, I am killing skeeters :lol: I'll find out in the morning light. Been wondering where you've been Blu. Got your hat yet?

No sir. Not yet.

Been busy busy busy this week.

If that white smoke kills skeeters, I wonder if it'll kill flies. They're BAD this year here! lol.  ;D

I know blue smoke does. Harold II was a bug killer when I first got her... Putting a stronger coil on her couldn't hurt any. One thing about the 2.3s is they do tend to eat camshafts so if you are having the misfires you might want to pull the valve cover and take a look at the cam.

Did the leak down, no problem :)
Coolant Leak down , no problem :)
oil nice and clean :)
Got to be the carb, oh great :mad:
Next I will check the cam :-\
Complete rebuild, I hope not.
Well, better get another cup of Joe and get back out there. :'(

Found the problem in the head and block, they are cracked. Small cracks around the valve guides. I pulled the head off and looked at the pistons, crusted with carbon. Number two had deep scapes (gouges) so I pulled the pan and found small pieces of ring. I will have to rebuild the engine, but that will have to wait.
Oh well, maybe it's time to start the deconstruction for body work and engine swap. I guess I will be putting in the 302/T5 sooner than I planned. I am going to make a promise to myself, and yall hold me to it, to have Bandit finished and meet yall at Carlisle 2011 for the 40th aniversary.
Well it looks like it's time for "My new Pinto, Part III.

sorry about the sad news on the 4 banger sounds like you got a boat anchor their. You better pull the heater box and take a gander up at the cowl pan i suspect you have rust that is letting the rain in to the floor pans. You will have to fix that or the floor will leave again. Your time will be better spent on the 5.0 anyways. 

You guys are killing me with the cowl leaks. I know that my white wagon and red coupe needs to be fixed (like all of the Pinto's in the world) but I am afraid to tackle it LOL!! Cant someone come up with a product like Fix A Flat that we can just pour in the cowl, slosh around and fix the leaks.
Sorry to hijack the thread CB but I had to chime in on the cowl thing  ;D

78SW, Chime in anytime.
SFF, I took the block to the machine shop this morning and they said no. The scares miked at .093". They recommended sleeving. What is yalls take on this solution?? If yes. would you sleeve all four cylinders?? They also said the head was trash, hair cracks everywhere.

It was a lot of fun driving it while I could. Maybe I should just throw my hands up and start a complete ground up resto-mod. I have two years till the 40th aniversary meet in Carlisle.

You know what they say opinions are like butt holes, every bodys got one, so heres mine, opinion that is.
If the 5.0 is your goal then i would get started in that direction. either way is going to be a lot of work and money. It would save you a great deal of both to just get started on the main project and spend the extra money on something that you are going to keep. oh well thats just my butt hole opinion.    :showback:

I thought it was excuses are like @$$holes- everybody's got one and they all stink! lol. :lol: :lol:

Carolina Boy Robert (as if there were OTHER Carolina Boys! lol) (Novacain's got to me head! See? There's the Liverpool accent! lol.) Anyway, CB, I think it depends on the final plan you have for Bandit. If you're keeping her stock (this Bandit IS a her, right? I can't check under her tail. ) then maybe a new or rebuilt 2.3 or 2.8 is the way to go. If you're gonna humiliate the ricers and other arrogant jerks then turbo or V8 is the answer. ;D  On Wildfire (a girl car, thank you!) I will keep her stock (though how fun it would be to have an unassuming lil' sleeper? ) Oh, that's right. I already have a sleeper. The Flying Avocado falls asleep at intersections. Oh, but we mean the OTHER kind of sleeper, don't we? lol.  :lol: :hypno: ??? ::) :embarassed:

CB,
Maybe a 91 or so 4cyl Ranger engine (certified or low mileage), Roller rockers, big carb, header, and free breathing Exhaust. Minimal mods, motor mounts are bolt up. You're up and running with 145 HP Like NOW! :amazed:
Unless you derive "stimulus" from fab work ;D and welding fumes. :lost:

Pintosopher "out to pasture" when you least expect it ::)

Quote from: 78squirewagon on May 11, 2009, 10:44:18 AM
You guys are killing me with the cowl leaks. I know that my white wagon and red coupe needs to be fixed (like all of the Pinto's in the world) but I am afraid to tackle it LOL!! Cant someone come up with a product like Fix A Flat that we can just pour in the cowl, slosh around and fix the leaks.
Sorry to hijack the thread CB but I had to chime in on the cowl thing  ;D

Um, sorry. I myself was sadly surprised by the cowl leak thing. I told the seller when I went to look at the car, "hey, the drivers' side floor is wet!What's the problem"? "Oh, I left the window opened when it rained". Since I had never heard of a leaking cowl, I took the bait.

The sad truth was learned when I pulled the fender off. Argggh! :cheesy_p:

Chris

so far ive been lucky, mine hasnt leaked *knocks on wood*

CW, I wouldn't waste any money on the old engine. You could sleeve the one cylinder, bore the rest, buy new pistons, find a head, have it redone, turn the crank, ect,ect,ect. With parts and machine work you're pushing a grand. It's kind of a decision you need to make, your ultimate goal is the V8, but like pintosopher said, if you could pick up  a decent ranger engine you could be up and running while you work on your V8. On the other hand, that money could be well spent on the V8......oh, what to do, what to do!!  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Let us start with Blupinto,
Layoff the wacky weed, put the novacain down! :hypno: Bandit is the name sake, the car is a she! :evil: :devil:

Everybody's answers are right on track. ;) I do have my truck for parts getten'and work. :look:

Since it wasn't an everyday driver I will just have to do without for a while. I have two years to bring her back to life.
I have decided it is time to start (as Chip would say) deconstuction. I will strip the old girl down, blaster her, repair her wornout body, get her into major coats of zinc primer, lizard skin her bottom, and sound proofing inside. Then it will be paint, glass, suspension, drivetrain, and finish off with a great interior. I see this as a labor of love and a slap to the face of our government. She will live again!!!!!!!!!!!
WARNING: Questions will be asked if I get stuck on something.

CB,
A good foundation is the essence of good Government!  ERR , I meant Street cars and race cars. So Dismantle away, Just remember.. someday a powerplant will occupy that hole underhood.

So Alex, I'll take powerplant indecision for $200.... :lol:  ;D

Pintosopher

Quote from: Carolina Boy on May 11, 2009, 06:26:52 PM
I see this as a labor of love and a slap to the face of our government. She will live again!!!!!!!!!!!

Down with the establishment!!! LMAO... Good luck and looking forward to pics and updates on the progress of Bandit

I'm already looking thru my Speedway catalog, Giggle, Giggle! :devil:

 With the engine being trashed, I have consintrated on the body. A buddy let me use his welder and I patched up some exterior holes. I tried to set the yard on fire with the sparks from grinding the welds,opps! Puddied the car, sanded down, puddied again, and wet sanded. I then raddle can primered the whole outside. That was a long 8 hrs. I will jump back on it Monday and wet sand again. Next week is going to be interior prepping.
The first of June, the welder buddy is going to help me build a body rotisery. I am also pouring a concrete pad in the back yard. Once it is cured, and portable garage will be erected. It won't be a Hamilton garage but it will keep Bandit dry while she is rebuilt.

Who's body are you rotisseriing? Is that what you do to your Yankee captives at the reenactments?  :devil: :drunk: :lol: lol. Those Bluecoats don't stand a chance!  ::)

And delicious with BBQ sauce!  :devil:

Like in Fried Green Tomatoes...  :angel: :devil: :drunk: :police: :o
I'm a little jealous about you having room to put in a slab. Then again  I'm jealous of Pintogirl having a) a garage complete with lift, and b) a good Hubby to help and even share the Pinto Passion. Oh, and c) she has lotsa Pintos!  :laugh:

I'm jeaulous of all three of you... Robert, Kim & Becky... No rotisserie, lift, one rusty Pinto, and not even a garage to work out of. This ain't good lol.

Kim :angel: and Becky :angel: yes, me no :embarrassed:. I ain't got a garage. It is only going to be a slab of concrete and a big plastic tent :((found on craigslist). I will have to mix and pour the slab myself :'(. The rotisery will be made of two 1000 lb engine stands(again, found on craigslist ;D) and some extra tubing my freind has :angel:. Then there is the rental cherrypicker and floorjack that leaks :nocool:. I am cheap on tools but try for the best for parts for Bandit. I had to do something, have you tried moving an engine laden cherrypicker on gravel?? :nocool:

Nah, haven't tried that.. Might be because I don't have a cherry picker either. To pull the old engine out of my Omni GLH Turbo I had to strip it to the bear block, and just let the old engine fall out of the engine compartment lol.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:That's rich, thanks for the laugh!

Forgot to ask how you did that, pick it up and shake it upsidedown?

LOL...

Actually I removed the bolts holding the engine to the transaxle, grabbed an old tire iron I pried the block off the dowels. I let it fall  to the driveway, where I then dragged it out from under the car.  The car was jacked up high enough in the air that I had no problem doing that. The block was junk anyways so I didn't care what happened to it.

Once my girl is out of College and working were Buying a house with a 2 car garage, the garage will only fit one car, Im having a lift installed =) Just enough to get me 3 feet off the ground.

Thanks IFFY, I need all the luck I can beg, borrow or steal :devil:

Bobcat, In the next couple of years I plan on getting a 3 car garage w/ attached house. :drunk:

Quote from: r4pinto on May 24, 2009, 09:47:09 PM
Nah, haven't tried that.. Might be because I don't have a cherry picker either. To pull the old engine out of my Omni GLH Turbo I had to strip it to the bear block, and just let the old engine fall out of the engine compartment lol.

How did that run? My dad was a Dodge mechanic for almost 30 years and talked about how he wanted a Dodge with a turbo four-cyl in it like the Omni/Horizon GLH or a Shelby Charger (he had one that he loved.) He wanted to swap it into a Dodge Rampage that was my great grandpas that we inherited from him... but it and that plan is long down the road; its just interesting to hear word of an old Omni Goes Like Hell, created by none other than the Pinto brain himself, Lee Iacocca, who thanks to the dumbasses in the auto industry today, is losing part of his retirement  >:( That really burns my @$$. Not to hijack the thread. Sorry  ;D

    -beegle55

Quote from: beegle55 on May 31, 2009, 08:40:24 PM
Pinto brain himself, Lee Iacocca,
    -beegle55

"Pinto brain...." !  :laugh: :P ;D

Quote from: dholvrsn on May 31, 2009, 09:29:13 PM
"Pinto brain...." !  :laugh: :P ;D

OH! I forgot to add for a lack of a better term...  :showback:

    -beegle55

 :tgif: Well let me update everbody. Bandit's looking good on the out side. She is straight and fully primmered. With help for a bunch of guys and gals from here, got parts needed to keep the project going.
   There has been one or two setback but they have been settled. I lost my job and the other half of the family. I have been offer another job and will start in a week. As far as her coming back, that is no, no chance. She's back in NY for good, case closed. :showback: Free again, free again!! :lol: Heck she didn't like Bandit anyways. :nocool: No more marriage for me :drunk:, I'll just be a playboy from now on. :devil:(HINT HINT)
   I recieved window trim (78texpony) :drunk: pedal pads and hood bumpers (Fred) :drunk: and a floorboard panel (pintogirl and hubby) :angel: :angel: :drunk:. I have been stripping the interior between rain storms and job interviews. Plan on taking it down to a rolling shell. I will then have it blasted and repainted then carefully reconstrusted 90% stock with the other 10% being the 302/T5 swap. I will be able to get back to it when I am settled in the new job.


2011 or bust

Wondering where you were yesterday. Good to see the project is still goin for you. Sorry about the other half.... i think....   Hope things turn out which every way you want it to. Sounds like the carolinas might be in trouble though.

Sounds like things are coming around!!

Oh, and to answer your question you emailed me about and I forgot to answer when I replied, hubby's name is Bobby!  ;D

I just knew there was something I liked about him!!! 8)

CB
(Robert, Rob, Bob, Bobby)

Gee, when it rains, it pours!

Good luck in the  :search: for employment.

I was going to say I'm sorry about your marriage falling apart, but then I thought back to MY first marriage and realized congratulations might be more in order... I don't know :-\.  Change is difficult regardless of the circumstances and/or how you feel about them, so here's wishing you the very best as you make some adjustments in your life :drunk:.

Dwayne :smile:

Been pert quite here. Been a bacherlor for a while now. Did get a new job. First day was today. This weekend is cleanup day out side. I have got to either sale all these parts or find somewhere to put them. At least ain't got no wife now to say" you are'nt bringing that in this house!" Sure wish i could sell it all so I can get back on Bandit. Wish I knew someone like Fred that could take it all off my hands in one fell swoop.

As yall has herd, I are workin' agin!!!!!! Same company, more money, but some travel. Monday was my first day back and as of 7pm today, I had already logged 69 hrs. I am off today (Sunday) and plan to do some work on poor little neglected Bandit. Going to try to cut out that floorboard to ready it for the panel Pintogirl sent me. Film at 11, stay tuned!
If not too hot, may lay out the steaks for the concrete slab and start grond preps for a pour next weekend.

Carolina Boy

Sorry to hear about your other half, though you may not be :)

I was married, too, for 15 years, it was 13 of the happiest years of my life. But I paid my debt to society and reproduced myself, so it wasn't all bad.

I'm located in the Mountains of NC(right on the edge of the Great Smoky Mountains National Park). I noticed your moniker, are you in NC or SC?

By the way, this would be a great place to hold a get together, Gatlingburg is just over the mountain, Cherokee is just down the road and there is a scenic train here in Bryson City. Lots of motel space and camping grounds and some of the prettiest scenery on God's green Earth(and great driving roads, too). Y'all come!!!

Good luck on your new job. They're running pretty scarce these days.

Do you(or anyone else) know of any 71-73 or 79-80 wagons for sale(somewhere fairly close)? Does anyone? I've got a couple of nice engines needing a good home and I have always wanted a Pinto Ranchero. Don't really want to start modding my 79, it just wouldn't feel right.

Grumpy 8)

Quote from: Carolina Boy on June 20, 2009, 11:49:28 PM
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If not too hot, may lay out the steaks for the concrete slab and start grond preps for a pour next weekend.

Had to re-read that one CB, when you said lay out steaks I was gettin' ready to head on down!! :lol:

Hahahahaha! Mmmmm..... steaks....lol.

Grumpy, I know there's a forlorn little green wagon just begging for a loving home somewhere in SC. It was on ebay going for $650 or something like that. I don't think it sold. Poor thing. It needs LOTS of TLC. Hope this helps.  :)

Becky, you are right. That car looks like it needs quite a bit, especially since they cracked the windshield by washing the car. Yeah right. That is the biggest bunch of baloney I have ever heard.

quarter windows come out by lifting rubber in bottom front corner and push outward,,, and remove trim screw if you have mouldings on them

Grumpy, Check out the Fayetteville, NC craigslist. There is a 74 Pinto for $1000.

Hey CB!

Congrats on the new job! Like a lot of other guys, I considered my divorce a blessing (may she find the money {I mean happiness} she was looking for) :lol:

I think you meant 'stakes' instead of 'steaks', right? I got hungry reading this!  :laugh:

Best wishes for success!
Chuck :afro:

Disco, It has been a blast here! Cook my own food, what I want and how much! Watch TV on any channel, with a Jack and Coke, in my skiveys. Opps, should not have said that, Becky and Kimmy might read this.
Work has been hard and long but the money is good and I can buy parts when I wontto!

Well at least you have skivvies on. You could be, er, hanging out  :embarrassed: ::) :devil: in the raw...  oooh... did I say that?  :angel: :devil: ;D

You would, Blu :evil:
I have made a difficult decision on the rear end. I aquired another set of axles (machine shop bought them due to their screw up). I stayed with the 4 lug axles and used my 14" Fairmont rims. I resealed and put new bearings in the rearend and installed it. I had 205/70/14 mounted on the front and 215/70/14 on the rear. I painted the rims highgloss black, used chromed nuts and trim ring. Looks pertty sharpe, if I do say so myself.
I just had to do SOME work on Bandit, as I had to relax because of my work hours. Felt good, too! I have been talking to a buddy of mine about a swap, my 5.0/T5 for his 3.8SC/ T5. Just might take him up on it.
Bandit's body is next to get some paint in the next couple of weeks.
I should have some more days off soon and will try to post some new pictures.

Been thanking about finding a Pantera transaxle and making Bandit a rear engine Pinto :drunk: :drunk: :drunk: :devil:
Had yall going there, huh?
Next week is all mine. Bandit, Stanley and Jack needs daddy. My buddy will be here Friday to oversee the pad pour. 3 days of curing and the Shelterlogic shelter will be installed. :amazed: Tuesday will be the last time rain and stuff will get on Bandit till she's done!!!!

There for a moment I thought maybe you'd had too much of that funny lemonade of yours! :lol:

Well... I'm jealous now.  If I had a place to get my Pinto indoors, I might actually accomplish something with it.  Had a kid stop by one day last week and wanted to know if I would sell it.  To tell you the truth, I was tempted - the idea being that I could maybe find one that needs less attention, since I'm having trouble finding time to invest in it.  But, it's mechanically sounds and there's really nothing all that bad wrong with it cosmetically, so I said no.  I'm going to see this through to the end, regardless of when that happens to be!

Dwayne :smile:

congrats on the new job and freedom.  BTW: i too have parts in the kitchen and even in the corner of the living room.  i eat what i want and in the refrigeratior there is nothing in there that i don't want.
I to have no garage which mostly hurts in the winter when i put it up on jackstands and cover.  i know i would get a lot further but such is life.

enjoy what you have and be greatful it is turning out well for you.  Keepp the pictures goin.

jim

HAPPY LABOR DAY WEEKEND!!! Fire up the BBQ, opps, that's the grill if ya ain't down South! :devil: :drunk:
The slab is poured and cured. I had hoped to pit up the shelter back on 24th or 25th. Work has made me put a hold on that. Now this weekend (3 Days) is mine, ALL MINE!
From earlier post, update is, no I didn't trade the 5.0/T5 for the 3.8 SC. Did sell the 5.0 for money to work on truck (must have truck). Lucky enough, a freind told me of a complete 289 w/ manual 3 speed for $50. Of course I went and got it. It came out if a 67 Fairlane, spins freely. Could someone tell me the code of the engine if I post it? After putting up the shelter, I will tear down the 289, dip it, machine (if needed) and rebuild.
Once I get Bandit in the shelter on that hard flat floor, I will start again on deconstruction, all the way to a shell. I am going to blast it inside and out to bare metal.
More updates and pictures soon!  :drunk:

HAPPY LABOR DAY WEEKEND to you too, Robert!!!  As for me, I'm celebrating Labor Day by working ::) :-\ :(   Can't complain, though, at least I have a job!  Enjoy your three days off :drunk:!

Dwayne :smile:

Shelter went up last Monday. Planned to put car in this weekend. Came home on Wednesday to find a tree had fallen in the yard. Guess where!!!! ???

If you said on my car, you'd be wrong. It fell on the shelter, ripping the fabric and bending over 50% of the framing. >:( >:( I will have the thank about another cover. Thank God poor Bandit :angel: hadn't been moved inside yet.

Boy... if it weren't for bad luck, you'd have no luck at all!  Glad to hear that Bandit escaped unscathed (and unscratched, for that matter)!

Dwayne :smile:

Seems like that is the only luck I have lately, BAD. Got up at the break of dawn to clean up the mess. I have decided to go to a metal cover this time. I even thought about doing a concrete bunker like we had for the fighters in 'Nam. Wonder how hard that would be???
Well, got to get back out there. More updates later.

Hey CB sorry to here about the luck. But like i told my boy growing up thats just life. My luck has purty much been the same, always something going wrong. But if things dont go wrong it means your probably not doing anything. At least every one is ok and you still got the pinto.

I hope to have a new cover soon so I can do something with Bandit. I would like to ask all you V8 pinto people about the wiring you used. I myself only want to run simple things like the engine, gauges, lights and a simple <100 watt radio. Since she will be stripped barebone and rebuilt, I wanted to replace all the wiring as the age will be a factor. Neatness is also needed. Any Ideason rewiring???

Quote from: Carolina Boy on September 20, 2009, 11:45:19 AM
Seems like that is the only luck I have lately, BAD. Got up at the break of dawn to clean up the mess. I have decided to go to a metal cover this time. I even thought about doing a concrete bunker like we had for the fighters in 'Nam. Wonder how hard that would be???
Well, got to get back out there. More updates later.

that s what i did now i haVE A GARAGE   still a dirt floor but the car is parked on sheets of osb ( wooden floor) the best part   the people that put it up had it done in 4 hrs.   good luck with the building.

CB my wiring harness was still in purty good shape i just used the stock pinto harness every thing hooked up. I used a msd ignition so i had to run a couple new wires out to the coil and the msd distributor but every thing else was fine alt volt reg sylonoid ext.. just used the pinto stuff.  sorry dont know how to spell sylonoid but u know what it is.

solenoid. Sorry SmallFryeFarm. I could't resist! lol.

thanks blu  :showback: no really thanks i never was a good speller.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: Glad to see my skills are appreciated! lol.

Quote from: smallfryefarm on September 25, 2009, 09:50:10 AM
CB my wiring harness was still in purty good shape i just used the stock pinto harness every thing hooked up. I used a msd ignition so i had to run a couple new wires out to the coil and the msd distributor but every thing else was fine alt volt reg sylonoid ext.. just used the pinto stuff.  sorry dont know how to spell sylonoid but u know what it is.

Damn my wiring harness is shot. When i go to the V8 i plan on just pulling it all and buying a universal Ididit. That way i KNOW it's all good!

oops, i ment to say painless wiring harness.

Not a bad idea, painless. Hee haw!!!

I bought new gas shocks for my 80 hatch, I'm not going with that car. They will be delivered in a few days. If you need them, I'll sell cheap!.

                                                              Mike   Arizona 4802666234

Quote from: Carolina Boy on October 06, 2009, 06:00:14 PM
Not a bad idea, painless. Hee haw!!!

:lol: Right about that!  :lol: ;)

Got some time to work on Bandit. This is the big hole that will have a nice powerful 289 in it. Of course I will clean it up first. :lol:

After looking at this last post of mine with that big hole in my Pinto I went ahead and sent the 289 heads off for a good head job. Next week I will get the block bored .030 over and start putting it back together. The engine had a 3 speed manual attached which I want to change to a T5, T10, or toploader.
With the new position, I have more time to spend on Bandit. I hope to have the drivetrain right and driving by early summer. Wish me luck!!

while your working on her keep your eyes out for a late 80s t5 perferably 89 it was rated for 300 ft lbs of tourqe.

Quote from: smallfryefarm on November 06, 2009, 09:27:09 PM
while your working on her keep your eyes out for a late 80s t5 perferably 89 it was rated for 300 ft lbs of tourqe.

I would need an adapter plate right? Unless I used the 89s bell and flywheel?

CB:

  I hope to have a very similar "hole" in my wagon soon, now that it has gone off to a shop space for the Winter. I am thinking 289 also, will be very interested in your progress, please keep us updated as to what parts you use and what successes/fail;ures you encounter.

Chris

Quote from: Carolina Boy on November 06, 2009, 09:23:29 PM
After looking at this last post of mine with that big hole in my Pinto I went ahead and sent the 289 heads off for a good head job. Next week I will get the block bored .030 over and start putting it back together. The engine had a 3 speed manual attached which I want to change to a T5, T10, or toploader.
With the new position, I have more time to spend on Bandit. I hope to have the drivetrain right and driving by early summer. Wish me luck!!

CB I wish you good luck! When you're done come do mine!  ::)

Quote from: Carolina Boy on November 06, 2009, 09:30:18 PM
I would need an adapter plate right? Unless I used the 89s bell and flywheel?

the flywheel will have to be early model to balance your motor. you can use the 89 bell i purty sure. some of the later model t5 bells were longer but you can change the imput shaft over to the shorter one and use earlier bell. but i think 89 was reg bell. long bell was like 93 i think. i havent reserched them for a while. 85 or 86 is when the switched to world class. so dont go any earlier than that.

Quote from: Carolina Boy on November 06, 2009, 09:23:29 PM
After looking at this last post of mine with that big hole in my Pinto I went ahead and sent the 289 heads off for a good head job. Next week I will get the block bored .030 over and start putting it back together. The engine had a 3 speed manual attached which I want to change to a T5, T10, or toploader.
With the new position, I have more time to spend on Bandit. I hope to have the drivetrain right and driving by early summer. Wish me luck!!

i called my local machine shop and ask him if he could do those he paused and said no but we do good valve jobs, i was so embarassed  :embarrassed:

OH ya'll be the first I cry to!!!!

Nothing like seeing a man in gray blue... ::)

Blu, Fred's getting ready to crush a car. I have asked about the rear valance, No I haven't gotten in a hurry, just trying to help. Where you been???

CB i think she had equipment failure yesterday. last i seen of her she was shooting at her computor then she disapeared

I missed you all too... I'm having withdrawal symptoms.

Update:

I ain't done Jack!!

I'm healthy again, Got a new Adopted Grandaughter (Kelly), Going back full time to work, and I'm lovin' life.

Time to get back ro work on the Bandit, Honest!!

Glad to see you're back full bore CB! ;D
Kelly,(:angel:) you keep a close eye on the ol' fart for us! :lol:

Yep. Cabin fever had got to me. I am doing quite well now, thanks to you all and Kelly and John. They will be moving into their new house Jan. 15th so it will just be me and the dogs again, but they are only 2 miles away. John can't wait to get back to work on Bandit with me and we are searching Craigslist for a wagon for them.(yes a Pinto)

72 pair and Blu has my valances. did a little work on Bandit today. stripped the wiring out, rotten and chewed. John helped pull the old 4 speed out, I'm selling it to Babycheezemo.

Went to see that man over in Graham, that Fred told me about, and did some recruiting for the Club. I was able to get  a close up look at his 75 and found that the 75 grill will work on mine without brackets. I will sell my 76 grill and buy a 75 grill.

I hadn't realize I have posted here in a while, so I thought I'd give an update.
Haven't done much. Today I mainly cleaned up things. Been having problems with locating the last parts needed to start full production. I have decided to go 5 lug after all.
Can't move it to easy right now. Need the complete rag joint. When I traded my power rack for a manual rack, He didn't give me the rag joint. I may have found one today. Ya'll know I am going  to use a 74 grille.(Yes it it a Johnny Cash car).
I am having to repour my slab. The #$%& thing cracked all over.
Home is ok!
Job is fine!
New kids all wonderful!
Love life sucks