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Title: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: iced ink on September 16, 2004, 05:46:06 PM
Hey everyone!

Long story short, I just recieved a rust-free 1974 Pinto Squire wagon with only 42K on it in exchange for a batch of my homemade sugar cookies.

The original owner (my grandpa) didn't like over-the-shoulder seatbelts and removed the bolts on each seatbelt that attached them to the ceiling of the car. Does anyone know or would anyone be kind enough to check yours and see approx. what size bolts I need to get to fix this? Would there be any easy way other than grabbing 1,000 different bolts and spending all day trying to find the right one?

Thanks for any help,

mike k
Proud new owner of a conversation piece on wheels
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: bricker4864 on September 16, 2004, 06:05:43 PM
I fould the belts I took out of my car, but could not find the bolts to go with them. The stock bolts are torx heads, but a regular bolt should also hold it. my guess would be something near a 3/8 NF bolt.
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: bricker4864 on September 16, 2004, 07:06:00 PM
The bolt is a 7/16 NF T50 torx head. There is a threaded coupler welded to the inside of the B pillar. It has 9/16" of thread. I would buy a bolt with 3/4"of thread and a washer. The metal part of the seatbelt that you are bolting back up will fit over the outside of the coupler.
The hole in the seatbelt is .680". The head of a stock torx bolt is .840. This only gives you .08 of clamping. I don't know if there was a washer on there from the factory, but I have one on mine.
A stock 7/16 bolt is .625- .603 across the flats and .722- .687 across the corners (Machinery's Handbook, 19th Edition).That's little or no clamping. I would use a washer if you are going to use a regular bolt.  Be careful if you get a bolt that is longer than 3/4". There's about 1" from the face of the coupler to the inside of the B pillar. If you get a longer bolt, it will dent the outside.
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: crazyhorse on September 17, 2004, 01:57:28 AM
A 7/16 x1"x3/4" socket head (allen) shoulder bolt, should be a pretty colse match for the original bolt, & it'll be grade 9 hardware to boot. the original Torx was a hard bolt (dunno the grade) with a washer (probably a 3/4 flat washer would due) there is also a 7/16 lock washer under the Torx bolt. Hope this helps I took measurements from my '74's anchor bolts.
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: turbopinto72 on September 17, 2004, 09:54:18 AM
 Something to rember while shopping for those type of bolts is that they are a verry fine thread. I dont know the thread count but its not something that is usualy offered at Home Depot.
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: bricker4864 on September 17, 2004, 03:39:24 PM
I don't have a 7/16 NF bolt handy to run through the threads in the car, but I did run the torx that came out through a die. It's a 7/16 -20. You should be able to find that at a hardware store under fine thread bolts.
QuoteA 7/16 x1"x3/4" socket head (allen) shoulder bolt
What size are you refering to?
A standard 7/16 Hex Socket Head Cap Screw Will have a Head Diameter of .656-.642".
Most will be grade 8 or 9, but watch out for really cheap ones.
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: iced ink on September 18, 2004, 01:42:03 PM
Thanks a lot for the input, everyone! I'll go bolt hunting tomorrow with all of that info and hopefully find the right fit a lot quicker than I would have without your help.

mike
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: crazyhorse on September 18, 2004, 02:16:51 PM
I mentioned a shoulder bolt, that would have a 7/16-20 thread and a 3/4"shaft up from the threaded portion. up from the shaft there would be a 1" head requiring maybe a 5/16 or 3/8 allen wrench to turn.
Title: Re: What size bolts for seatbelt shoulder harness in a 1974 Squire Wagon?
Post by: straw boss on September 19, 2004, 06:12:01 PM
Quote from: iced ink on September 18, 2004, 01:42:03 PM
Thanks a lot for the input, everyone! I'll go bolt hunting tomorrow with all of that info and hopefully find the right fit a lot quicker than I would have without your help.

mike
If you can't find any, let me know.  I have some on a '76 wagon that I am parting out.
Joe