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Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: Ironman on August 22, 2008, 09:23:44 PM

Title: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: Ironman on August 22, 2008, 09:23:44 PM
Is one better than the other?

I'm guessing niether is as strong as a T-5,.. but I wouldnt know that either,.... any imput?
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: turbo74pinto on August 23, 2008, 06:08:19 PM
tremec is stronger.  but unless its the tremec t-5, they have a different bell housing bolt patern.  tremec t-5 is nothing really special, basically just a stock wc v8 tranny that will handle a little, but not much, more hp and tq.  the tremec tko's are some bad mofos.  but they are clunky and no where near as easy to shift as the standard t-5s.  try googleing g-force transmissions.  they have some great gear sets to swap into your standard t-5 housing.  i think they have kits that replace the weak forks too.

bob
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: Ironman on August 24, 2008, 12:53:35 PM
Quote from: turbo74pinto on August 23, 2008, 06:08:19 PM
tremec is stronger.  but unless its the tremec t-5, they have a different bell housing bolt patern.  tremec t-5 is nothing really special, basically just a stock wc v8 tranny that will handle a little, but not much, more hp and tq.  the tremec tko's are some bad mofos.  but they are clunky and no where near as easy to shift as the standard t-5s.  try googleing g-force transmissions.  they have some great gear sets to swap into your standard t-5 housing.  i think they have kits that replace the weak forks too.

bob


Thanks for the info.
I probably sound like I havnt got a clue what I'm doing,.. that may be largely based in fact :surprised:
The wrecking yard said the T-5 came in two flavors,.. the one I have came from behind a 3.8L V-6 mustang.
That and the price would make me think I've got the lesser of the two.
I am a little confused about the "tremec" T-5 thing. Are they not the same transmission?
The trans I have has a tremec sticker on top, and the Borg Warner logo on the side right below the shifter.
I'll include a photo
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: turbo74pinto on August 25, 2008, 06:25:03 AM
yeah, thats a t-5.  tremec t-5s are the same as the borg warners.  the companies merged somehow, dont ask cause i have no clue how or why, in the 90s.  i want to say tremec had something to do with all t-5 trannies from 91 up.  i could be wrong on that though.  when they came in the picture, the trannies got a little stronger.  the t-5s actually come in a ton of variaties.  you have to watch your input shaft length.  i know fox bodied 4 cyl were shorter then the 8cyl by i think 3/8 of an inch.  94-95s were longer by almost inch.  read here for more info:

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml


what are you looking to do with this tranny?

bob
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: Ironman on August 26, 2008, 01:36:31 AM
Quote from: turbo74pinto on August 25, 2008, 06:25:03 AM
yeah, thats a t-5.  tremec t-5s are the same as the borg warners.  the companies merged somehow, dont ask cause i have no clue how or why, in the 90s.  i want to say tremec had something to do with all t-5 trannies from 91 up.  i could be wrong on that though.  when they came in the picture, the trannies got a little stronger.  the t-5s actually come in a ton of variaties.  you have to watch your input shaft length.  i know fox bodied 4 cyl were shorter then the 8cyl by i think 3/8 of an inch.  94-95s were longer by almost inch.  read here for more info:

http://www.allfordmustangs.com/Detailed/349.shtml


what are you looking to do with this tranny?

bob


Thanks for the info and the link. Very helpful stuff. after looking through the web page I've determined mine is a late model WC, with electronic speedo. That means I have the long input shaft and 300 ftlbs torque capability,  Duratec wont even come close to taxing this gearbox.  I am very pleased with this aquisition.

As far as what I intend to do with it,... I'm putting an 06 Duratec 2.0L from a focus into my 71 sedan. The info from the the link you gave me, will be very helpful in ordering the correct Bellhousing to make the adaption.

Much appreciated.

Mick
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: turbo74pinto on August 26, 2008, 06:52:58 AM
check this link too:

http://www.turboford.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=025488

a guy is putting one in an svo.  he gives some info on the bell housing youll need.

bob
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: Ironman on August 28, 2008, 12:20:15 AM
Quote from: turbo74pinto on August 26, 2008, 06:52:58 AM
check this link too:

http://www.turboford.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=025488

a guy is putting one in an svo.  he gives some info on the bell housing youll need.

bob

Thanks,..That was a nice link to visit. The Bellhousing he used is the same one I'm getting. Cosworth also  makes one,.. but they are 100 dollars more. I was a little confused because he said the bellhousing wasnt set up for the hydraulic clutch,.. I'll have to look into that,.. currently the quad rod place has 3 different bellhousings for the Duratec. maybe one is allready setup to take the hydraulic clutch.

Mick
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: turbopinto72 on August 28, 2008, 12:41:06 AM
You might want to take a look here:

http://www.fordpinto.com/smf/index.php/topic,8574.0.html

It has some good info on gear ratios. The T-9 is a weaker trans than the T-5  / Tremec. The Merker guys eat up the T-9s pretty quick when they start making horsepower.
Title: Re: Tremec vs T-9
Post by: turbo74pinto on August 31, 2008, 12:04:53 AM
Quote from: Ironman on August 28, 2008, 12:20:15 AM
Thanks,..That was a nice link to visit. The Bellhousing he used is the same one I'm getting. Cosworth also  makes one,.. but they are 100 dollars more. I was a little confused because he said the bellhousing wasnt set up for the hydraulic clutch,.. I'll have to look into that,.. currently the quad rod place has 3 different bellhousings for the Duratec. maybe one is allready setup to take the hydraulic clutch.

Mick

do you already have everything for hydrolic??  why not stay with standard cable?  just curious.

bob