PINTO CAR CLUB of AMERICA
Shiny is Good! => General Pinto Talk => Topic started by: JoeBob on October 15, 2015, 02:03:59 PM
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Here is a link to a web show discussing fords. They are kinder to the pinto than I expected. Interesting to watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5u0q2XkXC0
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Pretty interesting.
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Certainly not a scientific approach, but interesting nonetheless. It's one of the few such lists I've ever seen which did not include the Pinto. Not to be a spoiler, but for anyone who doesn't want to take the time to watch, the list of the five worst Ford products is (in no particular order): 1980-82 Thunderbird, Lincoln Versailles, the first GT, Grand Torino Elite, and EXP. All that being said, if you can spare the time, watch the show. The discussion and process by which they eventually arrived at that list is fascinating.
Dwayne :)
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I watched 8 minutes. I have to come back to it. Honestly, 2 million Pintos??? LOL How could that even be there on the list? Between the Vega (had one and my sister got one new in 1974) and the Pinto, the Pinto was a much better car. The Vegas came to the dealer already rusting ahahahaha
Well, it is pretty interesting!
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I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.
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I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.
How can you forget the Aspire. I always laughed thinking it was aspiring to be a real car ahahahaha
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I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.
Ain't that the truth?!?!?! :o
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You know, I saw a Ford Fiesta yesterday and when thinking about it I see them quite a bit on the road, one restored that looks pretty good. People laugh at the Pinto and we're laughing at the Fiesta LOL
We all have different tastes in cars.
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"Ford's Granada" ..whew.. can anyone recall 'anything' kind or appealing about those? ..I mean, ford might as well have been using volvo's advertising for them.. "They're Boxy, but Safe".. lol
But let's not camp on ford for those years or models.. all the car makers of that time had lines that should have been better suited for obscure "Twilight Zone" episodes.. don't even get me started on the 70's & 80's "AMC" anything!
But then, it's not all the car makers's fault.. everyone can succumb to greed & laziness & deceit, huh? Let's face it, cars are the worst "Investment" in the world, so few things loose value like a new car and the simple fact that it's one of the few items that simply is "Illegal to purchase directly from a manufacturer for anyone other than a licensed dealer".. certainly doesn't lend to it's allure or cost-sense. ;)
With cars & trucks.. it just may be better to take it all with a huge grain of salt and simply work with what they toss ya.. ;)
Michael
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"Ford's Granada" ..whew.. can anyone recall 'anything' kind or appealing about those? ..I mean, ford might as well have been using volvo's advertising for them.. "They're Boxy, but Safe".. lol
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Michael
You know I didn't like them then but saw a nice restored red one and I kinda like it now LOL
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I took a little exception to their putting the Lincoln Versailles on the list. It was no worse car than a Granada; in fact, it was quite a bit nicer than a Granada. I was selling cars back in the late 1970's and, while I never owned either, I certainly drove multiple examples of both over the years. By the 1979 and 1980 models, Versailles had evolved into a truer luxury car than the early ones. All of the ones I ever drove were a pleasant enough ride.
Dwayne :)
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Granadas are ugly.. ;D
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Granadas are ugly.. ;D
I had a lemon 78 Monte Carlo, beautiful car I bought new with all the stuff in carmine red. It was the biggest piece of junk I ever owned. I went to a Ford dealer once and asked about trading it for something while it was about 7 or so months old. The salesman said I could trade up to a Granada. I actually laughed... But seeing the red two door on the road was pretty cool... Ugly sure, but still kinda cool.
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I remember the Granada. It was styled the way it was so the average guy could get a Mercedes look-alike.
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I had a lemon 78 Monte Carlo, beautiful car I bought new with all the stuff in carmine red. It was the biggest piece of junk I ever owned. I went to a Ford dealer once and asked about trading it for something while it was about 7 or so months old. The salesman said I could trade up to a Granada. I actually laughed... But seeing the red two door on the road was pretty cool... Ugly sure, but still kinda cool.
They all had lemons and good ones, reminds me of a neighbor back in the 80's he bought a brand new Ford van and at the time I had my 65 F150, that van was in the dealer more than he had it and I took him to pick it up quite often, I even had to pick him up on the freeway with my trailer once, used to really pi$$ him off because my truck would just run and run, lol..
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I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.
In defense of the Fiesta, I bought a new one in 1979. It was the only new car I have ever owned. My wife (now Ex) got all the new cars in the family including an 80 Pinto. Back to the Fiesta. It was a German built car styled much like the VW Rabbit (Gulf). It was well built with a 1.6 "Kent" (read Pinto) mounted transversely mated to a 5 speed. The seams and door gaps were German precision (much better than American built cars including the Pinto at the time). It had decent pickup, cornered like a slot car, and got 34 MPG. I sold it to my brother and his wife with about 30K miles on it and they drove it for another 150K! It ended up getting totaled but my sister in law (driver) walked away sore but largely unhurt.
71HANTO
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A friend of mine had one and i do remember it ran very well for the 1600 that was in it , i do remember was the huge flat dash it had , driving to Sonic and laying all the food and drinks on it
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All these cars have people who love them and hate them. When my Monte Carlo got totalled, thank the Lord, I bought a Fairmont Futura and that car ran great!
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(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/fairmont2fast/_FRD5750.jpg)
Fairmont Futura...Mmmmm!
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(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq71/fairmont2fast/_FRD5750.jpg)
Fairmont Futura...Mmmmm!
LOL mine was light and dark blue and just a family mobile :)
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Always liked that style, I think a Pro-Street with a Cammer would be real cool..
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I had a dark jade green Mercury Zephyr Z-7. Essentially the same car.
Dwayne :)
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That was it Dwayne! I almost bought one some months back, but it was sold before I got to it. Same color scheme setup as mine but done in red.
I found a Mercury version, exact paint setup as mine. I still liked that car better than the Monte Carlo believe it or not. It wasn't a lemon.
(http://auto.samondeo.com/images1/mercury-zephyr-z-7-6.jpg)
And very very few around the country for sale, and here are a few. I loved that car. Wish I was fast enough to get the one that sold here recently!
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5270214110.html
http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5232838496.html
http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/5231001321.html
http://greenbay.craigslist.org/cto/5210949873.html
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And very very few around the country for sale, and here are a few. I loved that car. Wish I was fast enough to get the one that sold here recently!
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5270214110.html
This one has your name all over it, make a nice Pro-Street.. ;D
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I bought my Z-7 new in 1978 and, after driving it for about a year, I traded it on a slightly used 1978 Thunderbird in light jade green. I didn't have my Zephyr all that long, but it was completely trouble-free for the time I owned it.
Dwayne :)
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I bought my Z-7 new in 1978 and, after driving it for about a year, I traded it on a slightly used 1978 Thunderbird in light jade green. I didn't have my Zephyr all that long, but it was completely trouble-free for the time I owned it.
Dwayne :)
Mine was a good car. I had mine for like 3 years and others while I owned that one. They were awesome fox body vehicles :D I mean compared to the K Car LMAO it was a high-end auto!
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This one has your name all over it, make a nice Pro-Street.. ;D
I'm still doing the Duster as a pro street :D
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I'm still doing the Duster as a pro street :D
Well, one more won't hurt.. ;D
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Well, one more won't hurt.. ;D
That's the problem here LOL Too many projects!
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That's the problem here LOL Too many projects!
I'm told all the time that you can't have too many projects, LOL..
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I'm told all the time that you can't have too many projects, LOL..
You can when you don't have space :D LOL
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You can when you don't have space :D LOL
That's what I always say, then I'm told there's always room for one more.. ::) ;D ;D
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My wife and I differ as to how much room I have for projects. She seems to think it has to do with how much time I have. I think it is about space.
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My wife thinks it has to do with both, lol.
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Mine thinks and says I'm crazy for keeping two old pintos in the garage and no room for her new car , she may be right😜
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Well LOL I want this one:
http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/5284075062.html
I would turn it into a rock crawler. I have to think logically and remember that I only have so much room and time and money. I have a 79 EFI conversion I am not getting to and a 78 King Cobra that just needs put together. The 72 wagon I have to get them to finish. The shop has too busy now. I only have 7 bays with 5 lifts and need more lifts and tech and with 3 techs only we are full. Running into the slow season soon and should be able to get projects done I hope. Outside is almost full, and I should take a picture, is full also and not as many spaces as I would want.
So it's about time I guess and space for me :(
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Well LOL I want this one:
http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/5284075062.html
I would turn it into a rock crawler. I have to think logically and remember that I only have so much room and time and money. I have a 79 EFI conversion I am not getting to and a 78 King Cobra that just needs put together. The 72 wagon I have to get them to finish. The shop has too busy now. I only have 7 bays with 5 lifts and need more lifts and tech and with 3 techs only we are full. Running into the slow season soon and should be able to get projects done I hope. Outside is almost full, and I should take a picture, is full also and not as many spaces as I would want.
So it's about time I guess and space for me :(
Guy across the street from me has one of them, all original unmolested was his Dad's, after he died I asked the kid if he was going to sell it, he said no it's junk gonna take it to Mexico and turn it into a dune buggy, that's been two years ago and it's still here rotting away, I'd like to shoot the SOB... >:( >:(
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Mine thinks and says I'm crazy for keeping two old pintos in the garage and no room for her new car , she may be right😜
That makes two of us then, lol, our vehicles always sat outside while the toys/projects were inside.. ;D
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Guy across the street from me has one of them, all original unmolested was his Dad's, after he died I asked the kid if he was going to sell it, he said no it's junk gonna take it to Mexico and turn it into a dune buggy, that's been two years ago and it's still here rotting away, I'd like to shoot the SOB... >:( >:(
Might want to ask again! :D
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Might want to ask again! :D
I've done that several times, even the wife went over and asked about it, kid is an A-hole.. ::) >:(
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I had a similar problem with the pinto I got this year. The man said that it had too much sentimental value to let go of. I responded very kindly "Will a rusted out memento honor your dad better than my restoration?" He sold me the car the next day.
Bill
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I'd say you were very lucky..
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Well LOL I want this one:
http://boise.craigslist.org/cto/5284075062.html
I would turn it into a rock crawler. I have to think logically and remember that I only have so much room and time and money. I have a 79 EFI conversion I am not getting to and a 78 King Cobra that just needs put together. The 72 wagon I have to get them to finish. The shop has too busy now. I only have 7 bays with 5 lifts and need more lifts and tech and with 3 techs only we are full. Running into the slow season soon and should be able to get projects done I hope. Outside is almost full, and I should take a picture, is full also and not as many spaces as I would want.
So it's about time I guess and space for me :(
Sure....you *could* do a rock crawler. Or you could do something *this* awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yewHnBSja8 LSX swap, Procharger, two stages of spray, no seatbelts.
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Sure....you *could* do a rock crawler. Or you could do something *this* awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9yewHnBSja8 LSX swap, Procharger, two stages of spray, no seatbelts.
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late 1970's full size wagons.. land yachts that were virtually uncontrollable in turns and wallowed on straight roads..
tupperwear provided them to their dealers in the 70's
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Mine was a good car. I had mine for like 3 years and others while I owned that one. They were awesome fox body vehicles :D I mean compared to the K Car LMAO it was a high-end auto!
I love the Fox Boxes. Particularly the wagons....they make *great* sleepers. As for worst Fords, gimmie the EXP and the SN95 Mustang....whi ch was a big steaming pile of disappointment from stem to stern. The perfect combination of bland and slow.