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worst fords ever
« on: October 15, 2015, 02:03:59 PM »
Here is a link to a web show discussing fords. They are kinder to the pinto than I expected. Interesting to watch.

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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2015, 09:24:11 PM »
Pretty interesting.
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2015, 01:29:15 AM »
Certainly not a scientific approach, but interesting nonetheless.  It's one of the few such lists I've ever seen which did not include the Pinto.  Not to be a spoiler, but for anyone who doesn't want to take the time to watch, the list of the five worst Ford products is (in no particular order): 1980-82 Thunderbird, Lincoln Versailles, the first GT, Grand Torino Elite, and EXP.  All that being said, if you can spare the time, watch the show.  The discussion and process by which they eventually arrived at that list is fascinating.


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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2015, 07:08:55 AM »
I watched 8 minutes. I have to come back to it. Honestly, 2 million Pintos??? LOL How could that even be there on the list? Between the Vega (had one and my sister got one new in 1974) and the Pinto, the Pinto was a much better car. The Vegas came to the dealer already rusting ahahahaha

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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2015, 11:41:43 AM »
I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2015, 12:17:21 PM »
I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.

How can you forget the Aspire. I always laughed thinking it was aspiring to be a real car ahahahaha
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2015, 01:15:12 AM »
I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.

Ain't that the truth?!?!?! :o
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2015, 06:55:18 AM »
You know, I saw a Ford Fiesta yesterday and when thinking about it I see them quite a bit on the road, one restored that looks pretty good. People laugh at the Pinto and we're laughing at the Fiesta LOL

We all have different tastes in cars.
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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2015, 02:56:59 AM »
"Ford's Granada" ..whew.. can anyone recall 'anything' kind or appealing about those? ..I mean, ford might as well have been using volvo's advertising for them.. "They're Boxy, but Safe".. lol

But let's not camp on ford for those years or models.. all the car makers of that time had lines that should have been better suited for obscure "Twilight Zone" episodes.. don't even get me started on the 70's & 80's "AMC" anything!

But then, it's not all the car makers's fault.. everyone can succumb to greed & laziness & deceit, huh? Let's face it, cars are the worst "Investment" in the world, so few things loose value like a new car and the simple fact that it's one of the few items that simply is "Illegal to purchase directly from a manufacturer for anyone other than a licensed dealer".. certainly doesn't lend to it's allure or cost-sense.  ;)

With cars & trucks.. it just may be better to take it all with a huge grain of salt and simply work with what they toss ya.. ;)

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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2015, 01:32:51 PM »
"Ford's Granada" ..whew.. can anyone recall 'anything' kind or appealing about those? ..I mean, ford might as well have been using volvo's advertising for them.. "They're Boxy, but Safe".. lol

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You know I didn't like them then but saw a nice restored red one and I kinda like it now LOL
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2015, 02:06:43 PM »
I took a little exception to their putting the Lincoln Versailles on the list.  It was no worse car than a Granada; in fact, it was quite a bit nicer than a Granada. I was selling cars back in the late 1970's and, while I never owned either, I certainly drove multiple examples of both over the years.  By the 1979 and 1980 models, Versailles had evolved into a truer luxury car than the early ones.  All of the ones I ever drove were a pleasant enough ride. 


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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2015, 10:30:51 PM »
Granadas are ugly.. ;D
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2015, 06:41:12 AM »
Granadas are ugly.. ;D

I had a lemon 78 Monte Carlo, beautiful car I bought new with all the stuff in carmine red. It was the biggest piece of junk I ever owned. I went to a Ford dealer once and asked about trading it for something while it was about 7 or so months old. The salesman said I could trade up to a Granada. I actually laughed... But seeing the red two door on the road was pretty cool... Ugly sure, but still kinda cool.
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- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2015, 07:32:01 AM »
I remember the Granada. It was styled the way it was so the average guy could get a Mercedes look-alike.

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« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2015, 08:15:46 AM »
I had a lemon 78 Monte Carlo, beautiful car I bought new with all the stuff in carmine red. It was the biggest piece of junk I ever owned. I went to a Ford dealer once and asked about trading it for something while it was about 7 or so months old. The salesman said I could trade up to a Granada. I actually laughed... But seeing the red two door on the road was pretty cool... Ugly sure, but still kinda cool.
They all had lemons and good ones, reminds me of a neighbor back in the 80's he bought a brand new Ford van and at the time I had my 65 F150, that van was in the dealer more than he had it and I took him to pick it up quite often, I even had to pick him up on the freeway with my trailer once, used to really pi$$ him off because my truck would just run and run, lol..
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« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2015, 11:50:47 AM »
I remember seeing the first ford fiesta, and wondering how that was even safe to have on the road?! Prime example of a disposable car.

In defense of the Fiesta, I bought a new one in 1979. It was the only new car I have ever owned. My wife (now Ex) got all the new cars in the family including an 80 Pinto. Back to the Fiesta. It was a German built car styled much like the VW Rabbit (Gulf). It was well built with a 1.6 "Kent" (read Pinto) mounted transversely mated to a 5 speed. The seams and door gaps were German precision (much better than American built cars including the Pinto at the time). It had decent pickup, cornered like a slot car, and got 34 MPG. I sold it to my brother and his wife with about 30K miles on it and they drove it for another 150K! It ended up getting totaled but my sister in law (driver) walked away sore but largely unhurt.

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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2015, 02:32:14 PM »
A friend of mine had one and i do remember it ran very well for the 1600 that was in it , i do remember was the huge flat dash it had , driving to Sonic and laying all the food and drinks on it
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2015, 07:38:16 AM »
All these cars have people who love them and hate them. When my Monte Carlo got totalled, thank the Lord, I bought a Fairmont Futura and that car ran great!
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- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #18 on: October 20, 2015, 12:16:50 PM »


Fairmont Futura...Mmmmm!
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« Reply #19 on: October 20, 2015, 04:04:58 PM »


Fairmont Futura...Mmmmm!

LOL mine was light and dark blue and just a family mobile :)

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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #20 on: October 20, 2015, 10:11:33 PM »
Always liked that style, I think a Pro-Street with a Cammer would be real cool..
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #21 on: October 20, 2015, 11:23:06 PM »
I had a dark jade green Mercury Zephyr Z-7.  Essentially the same car.


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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2015, 06:42:09 AM »
That was it Dwayne! I almost bought one some months back, but it was sold before I got to it. Same color scheme setup as mine but done in red.

I found a Mercury version, exact paint setup as mine. I still liked that car better than the Monte Carlo believe it or not. It wasn't a lemon.



And very very few around the country for sale, and here are a few. I loved that car. Wish I was fast enough to get the one that sold here recently!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5270214110.html

http://wichita.craigslist.org/cto/5232838496.html

http://sanantonio.craigslist.org/cto/5231001321.html

http://greenbay.craigslist.org/cto/5210949873.html
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2015, 07:52:28 AM »
And very very few around the country for sale, and here are a few. I loved that car. Wish I was fast enough to get the one that sold here recently!

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/cto/5270214110.html
This one has your name all over it, make a nice Pro-Street.. ;D
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Re: worst fords ever
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2015, 01:58:51 AM »
I bought my Z-7 new in 1978 and, after driving it for about a year, I traded it on a slightly used 1978 Thunderbird in light jade green.  I didn't have my Zephyr all that long, but it was completely trouble-free for the time I owned it.

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« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2015, 06:33:44 AM »
I bought my Z-7 new in 1978 and, after driving it for about a year, I traded it on a slightly used 1978 Thunderbird in light jade green.  I didn't have my Zephyr all that long, but it was completely trouble-free for the time I owned it.

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Mine was a good car. I had mine for like 3 years and others while I owned that one. They were awesome fox body vehicles :D I mean compared to the K Car LMAO it was a high-end auto!
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2015, 06:34:29 AM »
This one has your name all over it, make a nice Pro-Street.. ;D

I'm still doing the Duster as a pro street :D
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- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2015, 07:43:02 AM »
I'm still doing the Duster as a pro street :D
Well, one more won't hurt.. ;D
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« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2015, 07:20:50 PM »
Well, one more won't hurt.. ;D

That's the problem here LOL Too many projects!
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- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2015, 10:37:27 PM »
That's the problem here LOL Too many projects!
I'm told all the time that you can't have too many projects, LOL..
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