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Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« on: June 10, 2015, 07:02:46 AM »
I bound my policies yesterday on my car. The problem was with the 79 runabout and not the 73 wagon getting the turbo. The 73 wagon, even without the turbo, they had no problem doing $6,000 with the pictures I sent. No problem with more after the turbo is installed and the car finished.

The 79 they say should value around 2k only. I had to send a ton of pictures of the engine rebuild, the new wiring harness being built and it was a fight to get them to agree on 3k. The minimum is $3,500 on a classic car also. This caused another problem with the car actually. We now have more issues with the car if I sink too much into it, which I probably will. I'm documenting it on my 79 build, but they don't have value yet. I asked why and they just said it's getting close to the 80s and the 80s cars are still being deprecated and so on.

I didn't ask about the bumpers being the problem with the big ones.

Who uses Hagerty and who is insuring the later models with them?
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2015, 07:57:09 AM »
Never had the value of old car insurance on any of my cars, only when they were new and me and the bank owned them,😜 but on a few aircraft that I have owned I have brought insurance on what I said they were worth, hull value, and you payed for it, 750 bucks a year for a 40k airplane , or 1500 bucks a year for 90K on my old 1951 airplane, so I guess you can ask them if you can set a value ( with a straight face ) and pay for it, and it also depends where you live and how high is the chance you are going to get nailed , I know when I move away from New Orleans my insurance dropped in half ,
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2015, 09:07:16 AM »
Never had the value of old car insurance on any of my cars, only when they were new and me and the bank owned them,😜 but on a few aircraft that I have owned I have brought insurance on what I said they were worth, hull value, and you payed for it, 750 bucks a year for a 40k airplane , or 1500 bucks a year for 90K on my old 1951 airplane, so I guess you can ask them if you can set a value ( with a straight face ) and pay for it, and it also depends where you live and how high is the chance you are going to get nailed , I know when I move away from New Orleans my insurance dropped in half ,

I'm in Idaho, not too many accidents. I guess that the rates are low. I was just surprised that the bumpers were the issues or being close to the 80s. I was also surprised at the value of my 73 wagon and what they say they are selling for.
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- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
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- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2015, 10:02:43 AM »
I really can't imagine the bumpers having anything to do with it, but I've never insured with Hagerty.  State Farm has always insured everything I've ever owned (old or new) and they had no problems with my two '79 Lincolns, my Rolls-Royce, or my two '72 Pintos.  I don't think being "close to the 1980's" is going to have anything to do with it either.  In Virginia a car can be registered and insured once it has passed the 25 year mark... that means that 1990 models will be eligible next year!  Time marches on!  My guess is that it's simply a matter of aesthetics and your '79 is nowhere near as nice looking as the wagon.  If you bring it up to the same level, it should qualify for a higher amount of agreed value coverage. 


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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2015, 10:39:21 AM »
So with that new info I just reduced the value of my car by putting newer bumpers on it , oh the pain ,   80 pinto bumpers cut down to fit my Commutacar ,
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2015, 11:14:18 AM »
So with that new info I just reduced the value of my car by putting newer bumpers on it , oh the pain ,   80 pinto bumpers cut down to fit my Commutacar ,

I love that thing. When you first posted it I looked on ebay and they are for sale once in awhile. It's all about the value that the insurance company finds on these cars. I never asked about a 74, and that might be higher than the 79 for all I know and close to the 73 with pencil bumpers.
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2015, 09:53:37 AM »
Wonder what they would say about mine, after I tell them the engine alone is worth 20k ! LOL !

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2015, 11:24:15 AM »
Wonder what they would say about mine, after I tell them the engine alone is worth 20k ! LOL !

Yours is a pencil bumper so has a higher valve. When you call and can provide documentation on the build they will insure it for that. If I redo the interior of the 79, I would be able to increase over the valve for the replacement valve of the car.

You'd be fine Reeves. Is Hagerty in Canada also?
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2015, 06:55:37 AM »
Yes Hagerty is here.
Will be looking into that when things get closer to road time.

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2015, 07:01:16 AM »
Yes Hagerty is here.
Will be looking into that when things get closer to road time.

They do have a mileage limitation also. It can't be a daily driver and has to be stored in a garage. The mileage is like 1 to 3k per year, but you'll be able to do more they said. Just check when you do it. You can also insure it while the build is going. I think you'll be surprised at how cheap it is. My two with a value of $3500 and $6500 is only around $206/yr. Tools are also insured :)
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2015, 07:27:25 AM »
Mileage not likely be an issue for me.
An 11 gallon tank & likely get 6 - 8 MPG ?
Not going to go far, without a chase truck hauling fuel  ;D

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2015, 08:26:52 AM »
Guess with your engine you can pull a small tanker for those long trips,  back in the early 80s I had a Honda CBX that got better mileage when I tossed it in the back of my Diesel VW rabbit pickup truck, yep it got more mpg than the bike did , even when hauling it,
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2015, 08:18:53 PM »
Guess with your engine you can pull a small tanker for those long trips,  back in the early 80s I had a Honda CBX that got better mileage when I tossed it in the back of my Diesel VW rabbit pickup truck, yep it got more mpg than the bike did , even when hauling it,

That's a cool bike BTW :)
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- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2015, 08:19:44 PM »
Mileage not likely be an issue for me.
An 11 gallon tank & likely get 6 - 8 MPG ?
Not going to go far, without a chase truck hauling fuel  ;D

It will be a pretty cool car though :) Have you thought about getting a bigger tank in there at all? Is it even possible?
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
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- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #14 on: June 14, 2015, 05:56:15 AM »
Was going to have a bigger 15 gal tank made & decided not to.

If I take it easy I can / maybe get 100 + miles per tank ?
Far enough for me.
Going to be a loud car as well. 3" exhaust dumping in front of the rear tires, is the reason I didn't bother trying to get the AM radio to work  ;D

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2015, 06:45:17 AM »
Was going to have a bigger 15 gal tank made & decided not to.

If I take it easy I can / maybe get 100 + miles per tank ?
Far enough for me.
Going to be a loud car as well. 3" exhaust dumping in front of the rear tires, is the reason I didn't bother trying to get the AM radio to work  ;D

Gonna be one wicked cool car :) LOL But that like 62 miles. For me that would be more than enough around town. Hope you get some videos of it running :)
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #16 on: June 17, 2015, 02:16:50 AM »



When I purchased my 77 Pinto Squire about 5 years ago, I contacted Hagerty to add Sweet Pea to my policy. While on the phone, I was told that the $12,500 coverage I was requesting was above their limit for this specific car, but if I could supply photos they would consider. While on the phone, I sent photos by email attachments. While still on the phone, the rep sent my photos to their inhouse underwriter, and within a minute my requested coverage was approved. One call, just a few minutes, Hagerty approved my coverage.



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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #17 on: June 17, 2015, 05:46:12 AM »
From the photo it look better than NEW ,  sweet

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2015, 05:49:59 AM »

When I purchased my 77 Pinto Squire about 5 years ago, I contacted Hagerty to add Sweet Pea to my policy. While on the phone, I was told that the $12,500 coverage I was requesting was above their limit for this specific car, but if I could supply photos they would consider. While on the phone, I sent photos by email attachments. While still on the phone, the rep sent my photos to their inhouse underwriter, and within a minute my requested coverage was approved. One call, just a few minutes, Hagerty approved my coverage.

Shown with Sweet Pea is Wayne Carini from Chasing Classic Cars.

You have to work with them as you and I have said. You have to prove the car has that value.
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
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- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #19 on: June 22, 2015, 02:34:17 PM »
I have my 1973 Squire wagon insured with them. It is in excellent condition but not like new. I have it insured for $3600, though I figure it is worth around $5000. It has a 2.0L cylinder that I rebuilt myself (I have been a professional mechanic for 36 years) with a Weber carb and headers, and a few other little tweaks. I drive it about 50 miles a week, usually all on the same day. It is very difficult to drive it here (Phoenix, AZ) in the summer because of the intense heat. I usually get up before sunrise, drive it to a local restaurant that opens early, have breakfast, then get back home before it gets hot. The A/C does not work, and it would cost more than I want to spend on it right now to fix it. Pretty much all the A/C parts are gone, so it would need an aftermarket system. I just can't see that for 50 miles a week. Mine came with all the options but the automatic. It has a four speed, which I like better anyway. My main reason for insuring it with Hagerty is because it will not pass emissions without a ton of work, which has to be done every year, then I have to put it all back the way it was to make it driveable, again, all for 50 miles per week. Believe it or not, AZ emissions goes back to 1966. Even CA only goes back to 1975[/size]Hagerty has other restrictions. They don't like cars that look like they were designed for competition, and won't insure any car with a roll cage.I pay $122 a year for basic coverage, with 15 miles of towing. Unfortunately, just about everywhere I go is around 25 miles away, and my regular road service plan will not cover a car over 20 years old. If it weren't for the emissions thing, I would just put basic minimum liability on it. $3600 is peanuts, and will not replace such a rare car. I can take this thing to a local weekly car show, and it gets a lot more attention than a completely restored '67 Corvette. People "expect" to see cars like that at a car show, but seeing a Pinto Squire wagon makes them do a double take. I have been offered as much as $6000 and turned it down. I know that's a killer deal, but when the money was gone, the car would be too, and I would seriously regret it. $6000 is pocket change to many people, while this car actually means something to me. 1973 was the year I started high school. And I have always loved woodgrain wagons, even 4 door ones, as long as they are RWD.

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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #20 on: June 23, 2015, 09:17:29 AM »
I have my 1973 Squire wagon insured with them. It is in excellent condition but not like new. I have it insured for $3600, though I figure it is worth around $5000. It has a 2.0L cylinder that I rebuilt myself (I have been a professional mechanic for 36 years) with a Weber carb and headers, and a few other little tweaks. I drive it about 50 miles a week, usually all on the same day. It is very difficult to drive it here (Phoenix, AZ) in the summer because of the intense heat. I usually get up before sunrise, drive it to a local restaurant that opens early, have breakfast, then get back home before it gets hot. The A/C does not work, and it would cost more than I want to spend on it right now to fix it. Pretty much all the A/C parts are gone, so it would need an aftermarket system. I just can't see that for 50 miles a week. Mine came with all the options but the automatic. It has a four speed, which I like better anyway. My main reason for insuring it with Hagerty is because it will not pass emissions without a ton of work, which has to be done every year, then I have to put it all back the way it was to make it driveable, again, all for 50 miles per week. Believe it or not, AZ emissions goes back to 1966. Even CA only goes back to 1975. Hagerty has other restrictions. They don't like cars that look like they were designed for competition, and won't insure any car with a roll cage.I pay $122 a year for basic coverage, with 15 miles of towing. Unfortunately, just about everywhere I go is around 25 miles away, and my regular road service plan will not cover a car over 20 years old. If it weren't for the emissions thing, I would just put basic minimum liability on it. $3600 is peanuts, and will not replace such a rare car. I can take this thing to a local weekly car show, and it gets a lot more attention than a completely restored '67 Corvette. People "expect" to see cars like that at a car show, but seeing a Pinto Squire wagon makes them do a double take. I have been offered as much as $6000 and turned it down. I know that's a killer deal, but when the money was gone, the car would be too, and I would seriously regret it. $6000 is pocket change to many people, while this car actually means something to me. 1973 was the year I started high school. And I have always loved woodgrain wagons, even 4 door ones, as long as they are RWD.[/size]

That was the year I graduated. I guess these are in the eyes of the beholder. I talked to Hagerty again, though it is possible to insure it for more, you just have to provide documentation on the car. Pictures are a big thing also!
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
- 1973 Ford Pinto wagon (registered ride 195)
- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2015, 09:48:56 AM »
Hagerty insured my 80 Rallye for 10,000 replacement value. Provided Pics and documentation.
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Re: Value of these Pintos from Hagerty
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2015, 10:20:07 AM »
Hagerty insured my 80 Rallye for 10,000 replacement value. Provided Pics and documentation.

That's all you need to do :) Hopefully they will on my 79...
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- 1972 Plymouth Duster (To be a Pro Street)
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- 1976 Mustang II mini-stock
- 1978 Mustang King Cobra II
- 1979 Ford Pinto Runabout
- 1986 Chevy K5 Blazer
- 1997 Suzuki Marauder

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